The Official Browns vs 49ers Game 12 Thread
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The motion to TE sneak is something the Browns have done multiple times with success this year. Fannin did it in week 1 and we cheered.
I doubt the bulk of you remember that.
The difference between brilliance and stupidity is if something worked. If you execute like week 1, it's an easy conversion.
To me the reason it’s stupid, even if it has worked before, is the TE is doing something he’s not used to. He might do it 2-4 times a year. And maybe 1-2 times a week in practice.
The QB has been taking those snaps since he was 8 years old.To me the reason it’s stupid, even if it has worked before, is the TE is doing something he’s not used to. He might do it 2-4 times a year. And maybe 1-2 times a week in practice.
The QB has been taking those snaps since he was 8 years old.I think you severely overestimate the amount of times kids as QBs have spent the last 15 years under center.
This also isn't just the Browns. It's a league wide trend. You saw it just a little over a week ago with Mark Andrews and the Ravens.
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This team is 3-8.
We keep hearing they have "nothing to lose" that's a "nothing to lose" call.
If i search this board, I promise I'll find a ton of "if they lose it's fine, just don't lose scared"
They were aggressive, to a fault. Have to live with it.
It was a desperation move by Kevin.
He’s looking for anything that can save his ass.
Notice how that play took the life out of the team?
It was a desperation move by Kevin.
He’s looking for anything that can save his ass.
Notice how that play took the life out of the team?
And had it worked, you're saying it would have given the team life?
It's a constant tit for tat. Can't want it both ways.
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It was a desperation move by Kevin.
He’s looking for anything that can save his ass.
Notice how that play took the life out of the team?
And had it worked, you're saying it would have given the team life?
It's a constant tit for tat. Can't want it both ways.
And had it worked, you're saying it would have given the team life?
It's a constant tit for tat. Can't want it both ways.
How many times has everyone on this board said “Great Call” compared to everyone saying “Horrible Call”
Kev has to go
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How many times has everyone on this board said “Great Call” compared to everyone saying “Horrible Call”
Kev has to go
Considering the bulk of fans on this board exist to only bitch, it isn't the benchmark of reality you'd like to use.
Most fans don't compliment when things go well. But when they dont...? Holy fuck.
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It was a desperation move by Kevin.
He’s looking for anything that can save his ass.
Notice how that play took the life out of the team?
And had it worked, you're saying it would have given the team life?
It's a constant tit for tat. Can't want it both ways.
And had it worked, you're saying it would have given the team life?
It's a constant tit for tat. Can't want it both ways.
It’s a roll of the dice, unfortunately Kev came up snake eyes.
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How many times has everyone on this board said “Great Call” compared to everyone saying “Horrible Call”
Kev has to go
Considering the bulk of fans on this board exist to only bitch, it isn't the benchmark of reality you'd like to use.
Most fans don't compliment when things go well. But when they dont...? Holy fuck.
Considering the bulk of fans on this board exist to only bitch, it isn't the benchmark of reality you'd like to use.
Most fans don't compliment when things go well. But when they dont...? Holy fuck.
You seem to be one of the more knowledgeable posters here, do you think Kev should stay?
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Let’s go Jets
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Jets win
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The motion to TE sneak is something the Browns have done multiple times with success this year. Fannin did it in week 1 and we cheered.
I doubt the bulk of you remember that.
The difference between brilliance and stupidity is if something worked. If you execute like week 1, it's an easy conversion.
I have no issue with the play that was called, IMO it was the location on the field where he went for it on 4th down.
I have no issue with the play that was called, IMO it was the location on the field where he went for it on 4th down.
Exactly the game was still within reach, just trust your defense although ST could’ve messed up the punt return lol.
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It was a desperation move by Kevin.
He’s looking for anything that can save his ass.
Notice how that play took the life out of the team?
And had it worked, you're saying it would have given the team life?
It's a constant tit for tat. Can't want it both ways.
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Well after 3 games... I can honestly say "Shiddur" isn't the answer... He has 0 field vision... Misses many open field targets.. I can't take it anymore...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
How many times has everyone on this board said “Great Call” compared to everyone saying “Horrible Call”
Kev has to go
Considering the bulk of fans on this board exist to only bitch, it isn't the benchmark of reality you'd like to use.
Most fans don't compliment when things go well. But when they dont...? Holy fuck.
Considering the bulk of fans on this board exist to only bitch, it isn't the benchmark of reality you'd like to use.
Most fans don't compliment when things go well. But when they dont...? Holy fuck.
I am in the minority maybe but losing and seeing Sanders play solid while bad 4th down execution and special teams literally costing the game against a good SF team as a win win situation.
We need more than one OT and Carnell Tate if he is available
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Considering the bulk of fans on this board exist to only bitch, it isn't the benchmark of reality you'd like to use.
Most fans don't compliment when things go well. But when they dont...? Holy fuck.
You seem to be one of the more knowledgeable posters here, do you think Kev should stay?
You seem to be one of the more knowledgeable posters here, do you think Kev should stay?
I appreciate that.
I suppose I can only answer that by saying, much like with Joe Woods, removing Stefanski must come with a clear plan. A plan both coaching and with roster construction.
I'm not arguing that Stefanski is elite. That said, when the roster is even remotely capable, we've been a playoff team. Hell, had the defense not been league worst on the IDL in 2022, he would have another wildcard berth under his belt.
Replacing Joe Woods wasnt enough. Had Schwartz been brought in and not received the massive infusion of talent with it, those 2023 results would not have been the same. They brought in Tomlinson, Ogbo and Hurst.
Obviously I'm damn grateful for Schwartz being brought in. But the mindset to comprehensively fix the problem, top - down, was kept in mind.
So many HCs bring in their own staff. So speaking of Schwartz, if Stefanski is let go, the likely hood Schwartz going with him is strong. It wouldn't be just your head coaching you lose.
A massive infusion of offensive talent is also a silent admission that not only the roster is a significant problem, the front office has let it decay to that point (like they did prior)
I am in the minority maybe but losing and seeing Sanders play solid while bad 4th down execution and special teams literally costing the game against a good SF team as a win win situation.
We need more than one OT and Carnell Tate if he is available
It sucks because my instinct is to want to win. But, long term, the higher draft picks are the most necessary and intelligent strategy.
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Considering the bulk of fans on this board exist to only bitch, it isn't the benchmark of reality you'd like to use.
Most fans don't compliment when things go well. But when they dont...? Holy fuck.
I am in the minority maybe but losing and seeing Sanders play solid while bad 4th down execution and special teams literally costing the game against a good SF team as a win win situation.
We need more than one OT and Carnell Tate if he is available
I am in the minority maybe but losing and seeing Sanders play solid while bad 4th down execution and special teams literally costing the game against a good SF team as a win win situation.
We need more than one OT and Carnell Tate if he is available
fucking stefanski going for it on that 4th down when the game was still in hand was just insane, never should have been called. just punt the fucking ball
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I am in the minority maybe but losing and seeing Sanders play solid while bad 4th down execution and special teams literally costing the game against a good SF team as a win win situation.
We need more than one OT and Carnell Tate if he is available
fucking stefanski going for it on that 4th down when the game was still in hand was just insane, never should have been called. just punt the fucking ball
fucking stefanski going for it on that 4th down when the game was still in hand was just insane, never should have been called. just punt the fucking ball
Yea it was too far deep in own territory
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Well after 3 games... I can honestly say "Shiddur" isn't the answer... He has 0 field vision... Misses many open field targets.. I can't take it anymore...
Well after 3 games... I can honestly say "Shiddur" isn't the answer... He has 0 field vision... Misses many open field targets.. I can't take it anymore...
let him keep on playing and see what happens, lets not forget this post is coming from a guy who said Arch Manning sucked after 1 game and that Notre Damn was toast after 2,so please do not listen to this dimwit
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Well after 3 games... I can honestly say "Shiddur" isn't the answer... He has 0 field vision... Misses many open field targets.. I can't take it anymore...
Well after 3 games... I can honestly say "Shiddur" isn't the answer... He has 0 field vision... Misses many open field targets.. I can't take it anymore...
Waaayyy too soon for that conclusion. He's a rookie who's played 2 1/2 games. I thought he played rather well. No INT's. And no passes that SHOULD'VE been and INT. That's not nothing.
stefanski going for it on that 4th down
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of it....but what's worse is having a non quarterback under center. Fannin is NOT used to taking snaps from center. It's not quite as easy as it looks.
Too many mistakes. Mostly made on special teams. Kicking it into the end zone before the half was a huge mistake. I know that the wind was at his back...but still...ya can't do that. And I was wondering when someone was going to mishandle a punt. Of course, it was us.
The game was not as bad as the score makes it seem. Was glad Myles got a sack...I loved when he and Purdy were smiling at each other...Purdy smiling like, Hey! I'm not going to purposely let you sack me. LOL
I would like us to stick with Sanders at QB for the rest of the season and try to find out if he can be the future starter for us. I hope that he proves that he IS the man. That way we can use our draft picks on OLinemen and WR's.
At least the Jets won so that we move from draft pick #6 to draft pick #5.
I'll add that Judkins had a good game. That freakin' guy runs HARD. Schwesinger had yet another really good game. Fannin did well (aside from when he had to play QB). Samson ran hard.
Tillman....sadly, he looks good getting off the bus but he is just not a productive receiver.
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Well after 3 games... I can honestly say "Shiddur" isn't the answer... He has 0 field vision... Misses many open field targets.. I can't take it anymore...
Waaayyy too soon for that conclusion. He's a rookie who's played 2 1/2 games. I thought he played rather well. No INT's. And no passes that SHOULD'VE been and INT. That's not nothing.
stefanski going for it on that 4th down
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of it....but what's worse is having a non quarterback under center. Fannin is NOT used to taking snaps from center. It's not quite as easy as it looks.
Too many mistakes. Mostly made on special teams. Kicking it into the end zone before the half was a huge mistake. I know that the wind was at his back...but still...ya can't do that. And I was wondering when someone was going to mishandle a punt. Of course, it was us.
The game was not as bad as the score makes it seem. Was glad Myles got a sack...I loved when he and Purdy were smiling at each other...Purdy smiling like, Hey! I'm not going to purposely let you sack me. LOL
I would like us to stick with Sanders at QB for the rest of the season and try to find out if he can be the future starter for us. I hope that he proves that he IS the man. That way we can use our draft picks on OLinemen and WR's.
At least the Jets won so that we move from draft pick #6 to draft pick #5.
I'll add that Judkins had a good game. That freakin' guy runs HARD. Schwesinger had yet another really good game. Fannin did well (aside from when he had to play QB). Samson ran hard.
Tillman....sadly, he looks good getting off the bus but he is just not a productive receiver.
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So I just finished watching the game, couldn't watch it live.
1. I'm all for Sanders starting the rest of the season. It's not going to be pretty, the last five games are all outside in northern cities and the OLine and WR unit makes this offense so limited. Still, I like what I've seen from him and am willing to let him finish the season.
2. Three special teams blunders pretty much torpedoed this game. A huge return, a boneheaded catch at their own five on a kickoff destined to go out of bounds and a muffed punt pretty much guaranteed a loss.
3. Mason Graham is going to be a problem for opposing offenses for years to come.
4. That 4th and 1 from our own 32 looked destined to fail from the outset. It literally looked like the rest of the offense had to convince Fannin that yes, Harold, they want YOU to play QB on this play and sneak it.
5. Fuck Michigan.
6. The Browns have four picks that will be in the first 70 overall picks. At least three of them better be OLinemen and a WR.
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So I just finished watching the game, couldn't watch it live.
1. I'm all for Sanders starting the rest of the season. It's not going to be pretty, the last five games are all outside in northern cities and the OLine and WR unit makes this offense so limited. Still, I like what I've seen from him and am willing to let him finish the season.
2. Three special teams blunders pretty much torpedoed this game. A huge return, a boneheaded catch at their own five on a kickoff destined to go out of bounds and a muffed punt pretty much guaranteed a loss.
3. Mason Graham is going to be a problem for opposing offenses for years to come.
4. That 4th and 1 from our own 32 looked destined to fail from the outset. It literally looked like the rest of the offense had to convince Fannin that yes, Harold, they want YOU to play QB on this play and sneak it.
5. Fuck Michigan.
6. The Browns have four picks that will be in the first 70 overall picks. At least three of them better be OLinemen and a WR.
So I just finished watching the game, couldn't watch it live.
Same.
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