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TexasAg1969

@dutch-oven said:

Ohio State’s WR coach/OC Brian Hartline is leaving to be the head coach of USF.

Aggies OC is going to be HC at his alma mater Kansas State, but not until A&M has completed the playoffs however far that takes them. BTW today was National Signing Day for recruits. How did MU, MSU and OSU let a damn good CB from Toledo escape to Aggieland? All 3 offered? Of course so did Tenn, Ole Miss, Vandy, Indiana and Oregon among many others. But then we signed 3 from Georgia in our top 5 that they wanted too. LOL!?

SdBacker80

@dutch-oven said:

Ohio State’s WR coach/OC Brian Hartline is leaving to be the head coach of USF.

I am not sure why it has impacted recruiting today they lost a WR and could lose another. He was as good as gone either this year or at the very least next year. He wasn’t going to be around the next 3-4 years.

Big blow for recruiting….im mixed on his playcalling. He develops the WRs well too…even if he’s got a lot of talent to work with

Dutch Oven

@sdbacker80 said:

I am not sure why it has impacted recruiting today they lost a WR and could lose another. He was as good as gone either this year or at the very least next year. He wasn’t going to be around the next 3-4 years.

Big blow for recruiting….im mixed on his playcalling. He develops the WRs well too…even if he’s got a lot of talent to work with

It definitely has affected today's WR recruiting, as 2 or 3 WRs have committed elsewhere.

Ohio State had great WRs before Hartline became their WR coach, and they'll have great ones after... but they need to fill his spot with someone who WR prospects want to play for - like Hartline.

I honestly wonder if Chip Kelly could be an option to come back next season to be Ohio State's OC again?

SdBacker80

@dutch-oven said:

It definitely has affected today's WR recruiting, as 2 or 3 WRs have committed elsewhere.

Ohio State had great WRs before Hartline became their WR coach, and they'll have great ones after... but they need to fill his spot with someone who WR prospects want to play for - like Hartline.

I honestly wonder if Chip Kelly could be an option to come back next season to be Ohio State's OC again?

Yes. I thought he was a better playcaller. Word is he hates recruiting so you pair him with a WR coach that can do what needs to be done there maybe with an NFL pedigree too

Unsympathetic

The Ohio State legend hire would be JT Barrett as OC -- current coaching job is the QB coach for the Bears.. he's the guy who fixed Caleb Williams in just one season. Hartline wasn't spending as much time in the WR room so either you hire a new one or Keenan Bailey goes to WR's fulltime.

Ibleedbrown

@dutch-oven said:

It definitely has affected today's WR recruiting, as 2 or 3 WRs have committed elsewhere.

Ohio State had great WRs before Hartline became their WR coach, and they'll have great ones after... but they need to fill his spot with someone who WR prospects want to play for - like Hartline.

I honestly wonder if Chip Kelly could be an option to come back next season to be Ohio State's OC again?

I heard about Chris Henry Jr. earlier today. He’s considered one of the top WR recruits in the nation and son of a former Cincy Bengal. Apparently Hartline was a significant factor in him committing to OSU but he hit the pause button after hearing the news.

https://www.si.com/college-football/five-star-wr-chris-henry-jr-delays-signing-ohio-state-brian-hartline-exit

TexasAg1969

Schedule for this weekend:

Friday, Dec. 5

Saturday, Dec. 6

TexasAg1969

CFP selections will be aired on ESPN Sunday Morning @ 12-3 pm (Eastern). Talk about making time for ad money! ? I mean how long does it take to just give the selections out anyhow???

SdBacker80

@texasag1969 said:

CFP selections will be aired on ESPN Sunday Morning @ 12-3 pm (Eastern). Talk about making time for ad money! ? I mean how long does it take to just give the selections out anyhow???

They have to spend hours on Miami vs Notre Dame.

No ACC teams (if Duke wins)

why a 3 loss Bama team is in

Why is Georgia ahead of Indiana when Indiana has a better loss.

talk about how everyone is sleeping on Texas Tech.

Personally I’m not in for banishing teams from the playoff because of one bad loss. But I think Texas is getting picked on for the Georgia game that wasn’t really competitive and even the OSU game where OSU just ran the ball over and over with their now 3rd or 4th string running back.

Notre Dame is unsettling to me. Each year they take on the middling teams of each conference and build hype off of it. I think the committee is setting a bad precedent when picking Notre Dame over Miami (same record) when Miami has head to head.

I going all in on Virginia winning the ACC it is too costly to the conference.

I think BYU keeps it close vs Tech

I got a OSU comfortably and Georgia narrowly.

TexasAg1969

@sdbacker80 said:

They have to spend hours on Miami vs Notre Dame.

why a 3 loss Bama team is in

Notre Dame is unsettling to me. Each year they take on the middling teams of each conference and build hype off of it. I think the committee is setting a bad precedent when picking Notre Dame over Miami (same record) when Miami has head to head.

Not sure Bama will be in with 3 losses.

And in 2020 Notre Dame lost their last game of the season 34-10 to go 10-1 while Texas A&M lost only an early game to #2 Bama to go 8-1 in the SEC (COVID year we only played SEC-no cupcake games). Yet ND was chosen to go play in the CFB P and got their ass handed to them by Bama 31-14. #5 A&M settled for beating N. Caro. in the Orange Bowl.

Bob806

@texasag1969 said:

CFP selections will be aired on ESPN Sunday Morning @ 12-3 pm (Eastern). Talk about making time for ad money! ? I mean how long does it take to just give the selections out anyhow???

@sdbacker80 nailed it, but I think it's sad what has happened to CFB.

The BCS was better, but surely not perfect.

12 teams, soon to be 16, is ridiculous. Participation trophy stuff.

TexasAg1969

@bob806 said:

12 teams, soon to be 16, is ridiculous. Participation trophy stuff.

Actually I like the 16 team better than the 12, although 8 would have been better than either. I don't think the 16 team format has been agreed upon yet. Am I wrong?

Bob806

@texasag1969 said:

Actually I like the 16 team better than the 12, although 8 would have been better than either. I don't think the 16 team format has been agreed upon yet. Am I wrong?

No, it hasn't but we have to assume it's coming based on the SEC & Big 10 opposing the current system (to a degree), and their money is going to do the talking. Thrown in ESPN, who has become ridiculously biased due to their SEC contract ties, it will happen sooner than later.

I'll search for the article I read last week. Basically the SEC & Big 10 are pushing hard for automatic qualifiers from their conference, with the SEC wanting 4 auto bids, the Big 10 wants 3.

The expanded conferences make this really tough, obviously. Things can't be settled on the field to determine a true conference champion anymore. It's a sham based on big money.

But yeah, I'll watch it because I'm a football addict.

SdBacker80

@texasag1969 said:

Not sure Bama will be in with 3 losses.

And in 2020 Notre Dame lost their last game of the season 34-10 to go 10-1 while Texas A&M lost only an early game to #2 Bama to go 8-1 in the SEC (COVID year we only played SEC-no cupcake games). Yet ND was chosen to go play in the CFB P and got their ass handed to them by Bama 31-14. #5 A&M settled for beating N. Caro. in the Orange Bowl.

Another dangerous precedent if Bama doesn’t get in with three loses. All the teams playing this week are playing an extra game. Would Bama be better off “taking a knee” and forfeiting then? And Notre Dame will never have conference championship game.

A&M got screwed that year. OSU got in too with 6 games played or something like that we certainly benefited

SdBacker80

12 is too many IMO. But I like the idea of award the top 4 with a bye (they are already playing an extra game this week). Over bringing in more 2/3 loss teams to a playoff

syd

I would get rid of the championship games and start the playoffs a week earlier also fuck the group of 5 unless a team is in the top 10 with a quality win or two they can get fucked and like it, maybe play a team like michigan in the blue bonnet bowl game or the la bowl or celebration bowl or what ever game that will have them

Dutch Oven

@sdbacker80 said:

12 is too many IMO. But I like the idea of award the top 4 with a bye (they are already playing an extra game this week). Over bringing in more 2/3 loss teams to a playoff

I really hope 12 will be the max... but money will make them expand it to 16.

TexasAg1969

@sdbacker80 said:

Another dangerous precedent if Bama doesn’t get in with three loses. All the teams playing this week are playing an extra game. Would Bama be better off “taking a knee” and forfeiting then? And Notre Dame will never have conference championship game.

A&M got screwed that year. OSU got in too with 6 games played or something like that we certainly benefited

Bama has a better argument for inclusion over Texas. They would be 1-1 with Champ Georgia if they lose. Texas 0-1. It's why I think Texas did us a favor, because if we had to beat Georgia in Atlanta, that would have been very, very difficult and might have dropped us even lower than our current 7th spot. Bama should not be punished for qualifying for the SEC Championship.

Unsympathetic

@dutch-oven said:

2 or 3 WRs have committed elsewhere

KDW was gone to his hometown USC before the Hartline news broke.. I call that normal recruiting.

Legend Bey only signed with Tennessee because he's now 17 and his mom would only let him sign with UT.. UT already said they're not stopping his transfer to OSU in a month after he turns 18 and the portal opens.

All the rest signed with OSU.

Chris Henry is likely gone but I wonder how much he wants to be developed.. for example, Bryce Underwood has a bag but at this point isn't good at the position of QB and isn't at a place that can develop him.

You can sign the next 10 years of WR1's and none of them will be Jeremiah Smith.. I'm really not worried because each of the WR's OSU signed dominated their games.

Also, OSU's offense didn't become a Death Star until Chip Kelly publically chewed out Hartline to get OSU WR's to block the perimeter.. It's not "just" Hartline's magic touch. Hartline's start as WR coach were multiple seasons of basically mid WR performance that get forgotten to history.

Dutch Oven

@unsympathetic said:

Legend Bey only signed with Tennessee because he's now 17 and his mom would only let him sign with UT.. UT already said they're not stopping his transfer to OSU in a month after he turns 18 and the portal open

Wow, I have not heard this.

Will he still transfer to OSU when the portal opens now that Hartline left? He's not strictly a WR, he's kind of a jack-of-all-trades WR/RB guy.