For the haters
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Why do people bring up the cutting of Bernie and still attempt to view it as some horrible decision. Remind me, what team did he go on to as being a starter? Not like the NFL in the 80s and early 90s had a different dynamic as far as top quality starting QBs compared to today.
BB was correct, Bernie's skills had declined to the point he was no longer a viable starter
I would agree that Kosar’s skills were beginning to diminish, but it’s not like Belichik was a QB whisperer. He had more misses than hits when he drafted QB’s.
I would agree that Kosar’s skills were beginning to diminish, but it’s not like Belichik was a QB whisperer. He had more misses than hits when he drafted QB’
I cussed bills ass out the following week in Seattle, he was not happy with me, I wonder if he remembers me ?
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I would agree that Kosar’s skills were beginning to diminish, but it’s not like Belichik was a QB whisperer. He had more misses than hits when he drafted QB’
I cussed bills ass out the following week in Seattle, he was not happy with me, I wonder if he remembers me ?
I cussed bills ass out the following week in Seattle, he was not happy with me, I wonder if he remembers me ?
Classic stuff! No doubt about it - he remembers you! As we speak, Nickers is probably on his way to Lucas Oil Stadium to make sure everyone remembers him.
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I would agree that Kosar’s skills were beginning to diminish, but it’s not like Belichik was a QB whisperer. He had more misses than hits when he drafted QB’
I cussed bills ass out the following week in Seattle, he was not happy with me, I wonder if he remembers me ?
I cussed bills ass out the following week in Seattle, he was not happy with me, I wonder if he remembers me ?
From a pure fan perspective, i did too (though not in person). A good example as to why even moving Bernie to the backup roll on the depth chart was not a viable option.
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I would agree that Kosar’s skills were beginning to diminish, but it’s not like Belichik was a QB whisperer. He had more misses than hits when he drafted QB’s.
No question. But not being a QB whisperer (would not expect a defense guy to be one anyway) doesn't preclude ability to identify when it's time to move off a player of any position. Also something BB showed to be a master of throughout his time.
No question. But not being a QB whisperer (would not expect a defense guy to be one anyway) doesn't preclude ability to identify when it's time to move off a player of any position. Also something BB showed to be a master of throughout his time.
I’m not sure about that, after all it took an injury to Drew Bledsoe before he put Tom Brady in at QB.
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No question. But not being a QB whisperer (would not expect a defense guy to be one anyway) doesn't preclude ability to identify when it's time to move off a player of any position. Also something BB showed to be a master of throughout his time.
I’m not sure about that, after all it took an injury to Drew Bledsoe before he put Tom Brady in at QB.
I’m not sure about that, after all it took an injury to Drew Bledsoe before he put Tom Brady in at QB.
At that time Brady wasnt the Brady he became. Bledsoe was the better QB at that point in time, and probably for a few years after.
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I’m not sure about that, after all it took an injury to Drew Bledsoe before he put Tom Brady in at QB.
At that time Brady wasnt the Brady he became. Bledsoe was the better QB at that point in time, and probably for a few years after.
At that time Brady wasnt the Brady he became. Bledsoe was the better QB at that point in time, and probably for a few years after.
I’m positive BB had regrets not starting Brady sooner.
Bledsoe is mid at best, and would make a decent 2nd stringer.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Bledsoe is mid at best, and would make a decent 2nd stringer.
Dude was a multi year pro bowler. Including having one of his best seasons the year after he had that nasty injury and Brady took over.
"Mid"... isn't quite the word that should be used.
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Bledsoe is mid at best, and would make a decent 2nd stringer.
Dude was a multi year pro bowler. Including having one of his best seasons the year after he had that nasty injury and Brady took over.
"Mid"... isn't quite the word that should be used.
Dude was a multi year pro bowler. Including having one of his best seasons the year after he had that nasty injury and Brady took over.
"Mid"... isn't quite the word that should be used.
Pro Bowler? ?? Derek fucking Anderson was a pro bowler!
Bledsoe hung up his cleats in 2007, and let me ask you…how many times has he had a HOF nomination?
I’ll wait.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
I’m positive BB had regrets not starting Brady sooner.
Bledsoe is mid at best, and would make a decent 2nd stringer.
I doubt it. Brady was barely ready when he got called in to action. At that point in time, and for a few later Bledsoe was the better QB. That of course changed over thr course of Bradys career
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Dude was a multi year pro bowler. Including having one of his best seasons the year after he had that nasty injury and Brady took over.
"Mid"... isn't quite the word that should be used.
Pro Bowler? ?? Derek fucking Anderson was a pro bowler!
Bledsoe hung up his cleats in 2007, and let me ask you…how many times has he had a HOF nomination?
I’ll wait.
Pro Bowler? ?? Derek fucking Anderson was a pro bowler!
Not a 4x pro bowler
Bledsoe hung up his cleats in 2007, and let me ask you…how many times has he had a HOF nomination?
I’ll wait.
So either you're medicore or a Hall of Fame player?
That is.... an awfully silly standard. But ok.
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Dude was a multi year pro bowler. Including having one of his best seasons the year after he had that nasty injury and Brady took over.
"Mid"... isn't quite the word that should be used.
Pro Bowler? ?? Derek fucking Anderson was a pro bowler!
Bledsoe hung up his cleats in 2007, and let me ask you…how many times has he had a HOF nomination?
I’ll wait.
Pro Bowler? ?? Derek fucking Anderson was a pro bowler!
Bledsoe hung up his cleats in 2007, and let me ask you…how many times has he had a HOF nomination?
I’ll wait.
The bar for mid is not being HoF player?
While I do not put a lot of stock in pro bowl nominations, comparing DA one for him in a down year for QBs, to 4x pro bowls, 1 year leading thr league in passing, and 2x all pro is simply nonsense.
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I’m positive BB had regrets not starting Brady sooner.
Bledsoe is mid at best, and would make a decent 2nd stringer.
I doubt it. Brady was barely ready when he got called in to action. At that point in time, and for a few later Bledsoe was the better QB. That of course changed over thr course of Bradys career
I doubt it. Brady was barely ready when he got called in to action. At that point in time, and for a few later Bledsoe was the better QB. That of course changed over thr course of Bradys career
Then we come full circle on my original claim, BB was a defensive guy and wasn’t really that good at evaluating QB’s.
Let’s see he hit a home run with Brady, but he also drafted Matt Cassel, Ryan Mallet, Jacoby Brissett, Mac Jones, Bailey Zappe, Jimmy Garopollo, Zac Robinson, Rohan Davy and several more I’m forgetting.
Its not a startling revelation on my part, I saw some sports writers on ESPN talk about BB’s inability to draft a QB a couple of years ago.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Pro Bowler? ?? Derek fucking Anderson was a pro bowler!
Not a 4x pro bowler
Bledsoe hung up his cleats in 2007, and let me ask you…how many times has he had a HOF nomination?
I’ll wait.
So either you're medicore or a Hall of Fame player?
That is.... an awfully silly standard. But ok.
Not a 4x pro bowler
So either you're medicore or a Hall of Fame player?
That is.... an awfully silly standard. But ok.
I just find it odd that you of all people would use the popularity contest of being named a pro bowler.
Hell, Baker Mayfield was a pro bowler last year.
I guess you and I have different criteria for a “good QB”.
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Not a 4x pro bowler
So either you're medicore or a Hall of Fame player?
That is.... an awfully silly standard. But ok.
I just find it odd that you of all people would use the popularity contest of being named a pro bowler.
Hell, Baker Mayfield was a pro bowler last year.
I guess you and I have different criteria for a “good QB”.
I just find it odd that you of all people would use the popularity contest of being named a pro bowler.
Hell, Baker Mayfield was a pro bowler last year.
I guess you and I have different criteria for a “good QB”.
Baker has turned into a good QB. You're right, once is an occurrence and QBs can have that flash in the pan. But doing somethint 3, 4, 5 times tends to mean a lot more.
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I doubt it. Brady was barely ready when he got called in to action. At that point in time, and for a few later Bledsoe was the better QB. That of course changed over thr course of Bradys career
Then we come full circle on my original claim, BB was a defensive guy and wasn’t really that good at evaluating QB’s.
Let’s see he hit a home run with Brady, but he also drafted Matt Cassel, Ryan Mallet, Jacoby Brissett, Mac Jones, Bailey Zappe, Jimmy Garopollo, Zac Robinson, Rohan Davy and several more I’m forgetting.
Its not a startling revelation on my part, I saw some sports writers on ESPN talk about BB’s inability to draft a QB a couple of years ago.
Then we come full circle on my original claim, BB was a defensive guy and wasn’t really that good at evaluating QB’s.
Let’s see he hit a home run with Brady, but he also drafted Matt Cassel, Ryan Mallet, Jacoby Brissett, Mac Jones, Bailey Zappe, Jimmy Garopollo, Zac Robinson, Rohan Davy and several more I’m forgetting.
Its not a startling revelation on my part, I saw some sports writers on ESPN talk about BB’s inability to draft a QB a couple of years ago.
BB may not have been good at evaluating QBs, but he was good at educating and coaching them.
He turned Matt Cassel into a 1st round draft pick return for the Pats.
Jacoby Brissett was a mid rounder and is still starting in the NFL. Over a 1st overall pick, no less.
Jimmy Garopolla was a 2nd rounder who went on to be a multi year starter and was pretty solid when he was healthy.
With the exception of Mac Jones, the rest were late round picks not intended to be long term starters.
If anything, BBs history of helping QBs grow as passers is pretty solid. Jones being the lone blemish.
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I just find it odd that you of all people would use the popularity contest of being named a pro bowler.
Hell, Baker Mayfield was a pro bowler last year.
I guess you and I have different criteria for a “good QB”.
Baker has turned into a good QB. You're right, once is an occurrence and QBs can have that flash in the pan. But doing somethint 3, 4, 5 times tends to mean a lot more.
Baker has turned into a good QB. You're right, once is an occurrence and QBs can have that flash in the pan. But doing somethint 3, 4, 5 times tends to mean a lot more.
And just because a QB is in the HOF doesn’t necessarily mean they were great.
Guys like Namath, Bradshaw, and Warren Moon come to mind.
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Then we come full circle on my original claim, BB was a defensive guy and wasn’t really that good at evaluating QB’s.
Let’s see he hit a home run with Brady, but he also drafted Matt Cassel, Ryan Mallet, Jacoby Brissett, Mac Jones, Bailey Zappe, Jimmy Garopollo, Zac Robinson, Rohan Davy and several more I’m forgetting.
Its not a startling revelation on my part, I saw some sports writers on ESPN talk about BB’s inability to draft a QB a couple of years ago.
BB may not have been good at evaluating QBs, but he was good at educating and coaching them.
He turned Matt Cassel into a 1st round draft pick return for the Pats.
Jacoby Brissett was a mid rounder and is still starting in the NFL. Over a 1st overall pick, no less.
Jimmy Garopolla was a 2nd rounder who went on to be a multi year starter and was pretty solid when he was healthy.
With the exception of Mac Jones, the rest were late round picks not intended to be long term starters.
If anything, BBs history of helping QBs grow as passers is pretty solid. Jones being the lone blemish.
BB may not have been good at evaluating QBs, but he was good at educating and coaching them.
He turned Matt Cassel into a 1st round draft pick return for the Pats.
Jacoby Brissett was a mid rounder and is still starting in the NFL. Over a 1st overall pick, no less.
Jimmy Garopolla was a 2nd rounder who went on to be a multi year starter and was pretty solid when he was healthy.
With the exception of Mac Jones, the rest were late round picks not intended to be long term starters.
If anything, BBs history of helping QBs grow as passers is pretty solid. Jones being the lone blemish.
I would say that was more of the work of Charlie Weiss and Josh McDaniels than it was Bill..
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So there
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Not really that impressive but I guess this goes out to all the teams who did not lose to the worst team in the league today. Then again Ryan Day called up Kevin's defanski for some advice on 4th and 1. Now Jimmy Haslam can f****** the quarterback selection one more time.
I was actually feeling sorry for you nick.
WSS
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Not really that impressive but I guess this goes out to all the teams who did not lose to the worst team in the league today. Then again Ryan Day called up Kevin's defanski for some advice on 4th and 1. Now Jimmy Haslam can f****** the quarterback selection one more time.
I was actually feeling sorry for you nick.
WSS
Not really that impressive but I guess this goes out to all the teams who did not lose to the worst team in the league today. Then again Ryan Day called up Kevin's defanski for some advice on 4th and 1. Now Jimmy Haslam can f****** the quarterback selection one more time.
I was actually feeling sorry for you nick.
WSS
OSU clearly got beat at the LOS,, And Ryan coach like a scared bitch... And it cost him..
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