Shedeur Sanders
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It would soooooo be a Jimmy Haslam move.
Oh my! It so would wouldn't it. Now I'll be waking up some night in the middle of that nightmare.
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It would soooooo be a Jimmy Haslam move.
Oh my! It so would wouldn't it. Now I'll be waking up some night in the middle of that nightmare.
Oh my! It so would wouldn't it. Now I'll be waking up some night in the middle of that nightmare.
One of the local guys yesterday on The Fan suggested the idea - because he thought it would totally be something Jimmy would do - and now I randomly break out in a cold sweat anytime I think about it. ?
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Bring Pat Shurmur in as OC next year, have Swartz be the HC
You just parted the Red Sea again with that one Moses. I kind of instigated it though. Cheers!
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Could you imagine the absolute zoo it would be here if Deion Sanders was named head coach?
? Are you saying it hasn't been one?
Tell you what - he'd be our best punt return man right now if Jimmy hired him as a Head Coach & Player Coach.
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Oh my! It so would wouldn't it. Now I'll be waking up some night in the middle of that nightmare.
One of the local guys yesterday on The Fan suggested the idea - because he thought it would totally be something Jimmy would do - and now I randomly break out in a cold sweat anytime I think about it. ?
One of the local guys yesterday on The Fan suggested the idea - because he thought it would totally be something Jimmy would do - and now I randomly break out in a cold sweat anytime I think about it. ?
This might be my favorite thread this year. Just when I thought nothing could be more outrageous than Jerry's Palace in Dallas - Jimmy gets a wild hair up his ass that he wants Deion stylin more gold on the sideline than any of the local jewelry stores have combined.
Stay tuned? If ya haven't lost us yet - you ain't gonna...
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You just parted the Red Sea again with that one Moses. I kind of instigated it though. Cheers!
Well hey... Ray Horton had 2 separate stints here... Nothing would surprise me... Anything is possible , right?
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Well hey... Ray Horton had 2 separate stints here... Nothing would surprise me... Anything is possible , right?
BINGO! Anything is possible Nicks! We've seen it all since in our lifetime as fans. ?
That was a "Were we sure he was really that bad? Let's dot the i here and rehire him to make sure he really stunk."
They did! He did! Lucky us!
I'm the knucklehead that brought him up in this thread. This was only to illustrate Shedeur's OC in college had some success as an NFL OC; so that's not the worst person for a QB preparing to play in the NFL to learn from in his last 2 years of college football.
Having said that, I still haven't forgiven Shurmur for punting the football on 4th and 1 at the Colts 38 yard line midway through the 4th quarter down by 13 or 14 points. This was against the 31st ranked run D. So... Of course the Browns punted it into the end zone for a touchback. Was there ever any doubt?
If we ever want to try a previous Coach here - Brian Daboll was the guy that developed Josh Allen in Buffalo. He never had the same fortune with the Giants in his next gig. That said, Tommy Rees hasn't done bad with him UNLESS that 2 point conversion without Shedeur on the field was his idea.
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Well hey... Ray Horton had 2 separate stints here... Nothing would surprise me... Anything is possible , right?
BINGO! Anything is possible Nicks! We've seen it all since in our lifetime as fans. ?
That was a "Were we sure he was really that bad? Let's dot the i here and rehire him to make sure he really stunk."
They did! He did! Lucky us!
I'm the knucklehead that brought him up in this thread. This was only to illustrate Shedeur's OC in college had some success as an NFL OC; so that's not the worst person for a QB preparing to play in the NFL to learn from in his last 2 years of college football.
Having said that, I still haven't forgiven Shurmur for punting the football on 4th and 1 at the Colts 38 yard line midway through the 4th quarter down by 13 or 14 points. This was against the 31st ranked run D. So... Of course the Browns punted it into the end zone for a touchback. Was there ever any doubt?
If we ever want to try a previous Coach here - Brian Daboll was the guy that developed Josh Allen in Buffalo. He never had the same fortune with the Giants in his next gig. That said, Tommy Rees hasn't done bad with him UNLESS that 2 point conversion without Shedeur on the field was his idea.
BINGO! Anything is possible Nicks! We've seen it all since in our lifetime as fans. ?
That was a "Were we sure he was really that bad? Let's dot the i here and rehire him to make sure he really stunk."
They did! He did! Lucky us!
I'm the knucklehead that brought him up in this thread. This was only to illustrate Shedeur's OC in college had some success as an NFL OC; so that's not the worst person for a QB preparing to play in the NFL to learn from in his last 2 years of college football.
Having said that, I still haven't forgiven Shurmur for punting the football on 4th and 1 at the Colts 38 yard line midway through the 4th quarter down by 13 or 14 points. This was against the 31st ranked run D. So... Of course the Browns punted it into the end zone for a touchback. Was there ever any doubt?
If we ever want to try a previous Coach here - Brian Daboll was the guy that developed Josh Allen in Buffalo. He never had the same fortune with the Giants in his next gig. That said, Tommy Rees hasn't done bad with him UNLESS that 2 point conversion without Shedeur on the field was his idea.
Funny you mention the 4th and 1 punt... I see so much similarity in Shurmur and Kevin... Or am I reaching here?
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I find it interesting that the same people who complain that Stefanski “isn’t manly enough” are also the same people who complain about him being too aggressive.
It’s also why I get amused by all the love by some people on here Dan Campbell gets.
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BINGO! Anything is possible Nicks! We've seen it all since in our lifetime as fans. ?
That was a "Were we sure he was really that bad? Let's dot the i here and rehire him to make sure he really stunk."
They did! He did! Lucky us!
I'm the knucklehead that brought him up in this thread. This was only to illustrate Shedeur's OC in college had some success as an NFL OC; so that's not the worst person for a QB preparing to play in the NFL to learn from in his last 2 years of college football.
Having said that, I still haven't forgiven Shurmur for punting the football on 4th and 1 at the Colts 38 yard line midway through the 4th quarter down by 13 or 14 points. This was against the 31st ranked run D. So... Of course the Browns punted it into the end zone for a touchback. Was there ever any doubt?
If we ever want to try a previous Coach here - Brian Daboll was the guy that developed Josh Allen in Buffalo. He never had the same fortune with the Giants in his next gig. That said, Tommy Rees hasn't done bad with him UNLESS that 2 point conversion without Shedeur on the field was his idea.
Funny you mention the 4th and 1 punt... I see so much similarity in Shurmur and Kevin... Or am I reaching here?
Funny you mention the 4th and 1 punt... I see so much similarity in Shurmur and Kevin... Or am I reaching here?
Just the reality that Stefansky goes for it on 4th down as frequently as he does on both sides of the 50 - I'll say it's a reach.
Having said that, watching the 2 point conversion play out - it looked like they practiced the new play a grand total of 1 time if that. A play they've never run live. Even worse, why take Sanders off the field?
That WildDawg formation with Dolphins RB Ronnie Brown was successful back in 2008; but it didn't take long for that stuff to fizzle out within the next couple years or so. But here we were with a young QB having his best day; only to see the coaching staff showing they didn't trust him enough to keep him out there for the 2 point conversion attempt. Huge headscratcher with so many better alternatives to what they chose to do. From a guy that was reluctant to race Stefansky out here - he finally got stale on me this year.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I find it interesting that the same people who complain that Stefanski “isn’t manly enough” are also the same people who complain about him being too aggressive.
It’s also why I get amused by all the love by some people on here Dan Campbell gets.
I find it interesting that the same people who complain that Stefanski “isn’t manly enough” are also the same people who complain about him being too aggressive.
It’s also why I get amused by all the love by some people on here Dan Campbell gets.
Yeah, while I've been supportive of Stefanski in general until this season.
There's a ton of misconstrued criticism IMHO about how KS & the Browns "mismanaged" handling the QB room, but I'm of the belief they actually did Shedeur a favor by having him sit. Time will tell of course.
I do think the Browns need a new messenger as HC, but don't be shocked if things get worse. I do think KS has put up with more distractions than any Browns HC in the last 25 years, and yes, some of those distractions he had a hand in-although I think it's damn near criminal that the GM barely ever gets grilled by the press.
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Funny you mention the 4th and 1 punt... I see so much similarity in Shurmur and Kevin... Or am I reaching here?
Just the reality that Stefansky goes for it on 4th down as frequently as he does on both sides of the 50 - I'll say it's a reach.
Having said that, watching the 2 point conversion play out - it looked like they practiced the new play a grand total of 1 time if that. A play they've never run live. Even worse, why take Sanders off the field?
That WildDawg formation with Dolphins RB Ronnie Brown was successful back in 2008; but it didn't take long for that stuff to fizzle out within the next couple years or so. But here we were with a young QB having his best day; only to see the coaching staff showing they didn't trust him enough to keep him out there for the 2 point conversion attempt. Huge headscratcher with so many better alternatives to what they chose to do. From a guy that was reluctant to race Stefansky out here - he finally got stale on me this year.
Just the reality that Stefansky goes for it on 4th down as frequently as he does on both sides of the 50 - I'll say it's a reach.
Having said that, watching the 2 point conversion play out - it looked like they practiced the new play a grand total of 1 time if that. A play they've never run live. Even worse, why take Sanders off the field?
That WildDawg formation with Dolphins RB Ronnie Brown was successful back in 2008; but it didn't take long for that stuff to fizzle out within the next couple years or so. But here we were with a young QB having his best day; only to see the coaching staff showing they didn't trust him enough to keep him out there for the 2 point conversion attempt. Huge headscratcher with so many better alternatives to what they chose to do. From a guy that was reluctant to race Stefansky out here - he finally got stale on me this year.
Can't argue those points 1 Iota.. I get the idea of having the element of surprise... But taking Sanders out was just plain dumb...I never liked the hiring of Kev in the first place... He's a deadman walking keeping the seat warm..
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I find it interesting that the same people who complain that Stefanski “isn’t manly enough” are also the same people who complain about him being too aggressive.
It’s also why I get amused by all the love by some people on here Dan Campbell gets.
Yeah, while I've been supportive of Stefanski in general until this season.
There's a ton of misconstrued criticism IMHO about how KS & the Browns "mismanaged" handling the QB room, but I'm of the belief they actually did Shedeur a favor by having him sit. Time will tell of course.
I do think the Browns need a new messenger as HC, but don't be shocked if things get worse. I do think KS has put up with more distractions than any Browns HC in the last 25 years, and yes, some of those distractions he had a hand in-although I think it's damn near criminal that the GM barely ever gets grilled by the press.
Yeah, while I've been supportive of Stefanski in general until this season.
There's a ton of misconstrued criticism IMHO about how KS & the Browns "mismanaged" handling the QB room, but I'm of the belief they actually did Shedeur a favor by having him sit. Time will tell of course.
I do think the Browns need a new messenger as HC, but don't be shocked if things get worse. I do think KS has put up with more distractions than any Browns HC in the last 25 years, and yes, some of those distractions he had a hand in-although I think it's damn near criminal that the GM barely ever gets grilled by the press.
The part bolded above - Yes indeed Bob!
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I find it interesting that the same people who complain that Stefanski “isn’t manly enough” are also the same people who complain about him being too aggressive.
It’s also why I get amused by all the love by some people on here Dan Campbell gets.
I find it interesting that the same people who complain that Stefanski “isn’t manly enough” are also the same people who complain about him being too aggressive.
It’s also why I get amused by all the love by some people on here Dan Campbell gets.
Behind all the rah rah & Testosterone of the Big Feller there - he had a really good gridiron chess player in Ben Johnson at OC. Johnson is now the HC of the Chicago Bears sporting 8 wins and a very good chance of making the playoffs. Speaking of the Bears - they're waiting in the on-deck circle to play the Browns this weekend.
A lot of people don't know Stefanski was a pretty freakin good D-I Ivy League Football Player at Penn. Here's a cut and paste (it doesn't specify his DB position but I think I remember reading he was a Safety:
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I find it interesting that the same people who complain that Stefanski “isn’t manly enough” are also the same people who complain about him being too aggressive.
It’s also why I get amused by all the love by some people on here Dan Campbell gets.
Yeah, while I've been supportive of Stefanski in general until this season.
There's a ton of misconstrued criticism IMHO about how KS & the Browns "mismanaged" handling the QB room, but I'm of the belief they actually did Shedeur a favor by having him sit. Time will tell of course.
I do think the Browns need a new messenger as HC, but don't be shocked if things get worse. I do think KS has put up with more distractions than any Browns HC in the last 25 years, and yes, some of those distractions he had a hand in-although I think it's damn near criminal that the GM barely ever gets grilled by the press.
I do think the Browns need a new messenger as HC, but don't be shocked if things get worse. I do think KS has put up with more distractions than any Browns HC in the last 25 years, and yes, some of those distractions he had a hand in-although I think it's damn near criminal that the GM barely ever gets grilled by the press.
Yes.
There's a reason I don't argue with people who want Stefanski gone, that's not a hill I'm going to die on. I get it.
But at the end of the day the biggest problem with this organization isn't Stefanski, and replacing him is putting a band-aid on the proverbial gunshot wound.
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