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  • sydS syd

    so Stefanski wins our last 2 games vs division foe's, Team did not quit on him, so for the haters don't be surprised if he is our coach next year 

    @syd said:

    so Stefanski wins our last 2 games vs division foe's, Team did not quit on him, so for the haters don't be surprised if he is our coach next year 

    only because of the defense, that isn't Steflunski's doing, they won them despite him. 1 td vs the steelers, 0 offense tds vs the Bengals. and the Browns got 0 TDs vs the steelers the first time they played them.

  • @syd said:

    so Stefanski wins our last 2 games vs division foe's, Team did not quit on him, so for the haters don't be surprised if he is our coach next year 

    only because of the defense, that isn't Steflunski's doing, they won them despite him. 1 td vs the steelers, 0 offense tds vs the Bengals. and the Browns got 0 TDs vs the steelers the first time they played them.

    @calfoxwc said:

    only because of the defense, that isn't Steflunski's doing, they won them despite him. 1 td vs the steelers, 0 offense tds vs the Bengals. and the Browns got 0 TDs vs the steelers the first time they played them.

    so a shit offense has nothing to do with trading away all those picks and giving that dude 240 million guaranteed. nope I guess note

  • sydS syd

    @calfoxwc said:

    only because of the defense, that isn't Steflunski's doing, they won them despite him. 1 td vs the steelers, 0 offense tds vs the Bengals. and the Browns got 0 TDs vs the steelers the first time they played them.

    so a shit offense has nothing to do with trading away all those picks and giving that dude 240 million guaranteed. nope I guess note

    @syd said:

    so a shit offense has nothing to do with trading away all those picks and giving that dude 240 million guaranteed. nope I guess note

    wait, that is a completely different story, of course that stupid deal screwed over the Browns, But not drafting olinemen and wr's they should have drafted has nothing to do with that stinking, dramatically asswholish trade.

  • @syd said:

    so a shit offense has nothing to do with trading away all those picks and giving that dude 240 million guaranteed. nope I guess note

    wait, that is a completely different story, of course that stupid deal screwed over the Browns, But not drafting olinemen and wr's they should have drafted has nothing to do with that stinking, dramatically asswholish trade.

    @calfoxwc said:

    wait, that is a completely different story, of course that stupid deal screwed over the Browns, But not drafting olinemen and wr's they should have drafted has nothing to do with that stinking, dramatically asswholish trade.

    3 Zak Zinter 85 OL 2025 0 0 0 1 21 0 0 0 0 0     0     0     Michigan
    2024 5 Jamari Thrash 156 WR 2025 0 0 0 0 18 0 0 0 0 0     0 13 129 0     Louisville
    2024 6 Nathaniel Watson 206 LB 2024 0 0 0 1 14 0 0 0 0 0     0     0     Mississippi St.
    2024 7 Myles Harden 227 DB 2025 0 0 0 0 19 0 0 0 0 0     0     0     South Dakota
    2024 7 Jowon Briggs 243 DE 2025 0 0 0 1 22 0 0 0 0 0     0     0   4.0 Cincinnati
    Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St wAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
    2023 3 Cedric Tillman 74 WR 2025 0 0 0 4 37 0 0 0 0 0 2 3 0 70 810 5     Tennessee
    2023 3 Siaki Ika 98 DL 2023 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0     0     0     Baylor
    2023 4 Dawand Jones 111 OL 2025 0 0 2 6 24 0 0 0 0 0     0     0     Ohio St.
    2023 4 Isaiah McGuire 126 DL 2025 0 0 0 3 36 0 0 0 0 0     0     0   5.5 Missouri
    2023 5 Dorian Thompson-Robinson 140 QB 2024 0 0 0 2 15 121 230 880 1 10 35 187 0     0     UCLA
    2023 5 Cameron Mitchell 142 DB 2025 0 0 0 3 39 0 0 0 0 0     0     0   1.0 Northwestern
    2023 6 Luke Wypler 190 OL 2025 0 0 0 1 21 0 0 0 0 0     0 0 0 0     Ohio St.
    Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St wAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
    2022 3 Martin Emerson 68 CB 2024 0 0 2 13 50 0 0 0 0 0     0     0 4 1.0 Mississippi St.
    2022 3 Alex Wright 78 DE 2025 0 0 0 6 50 0 0 0 0 0     0     0   11.5 Ala-Birmingham
    2022 3 David Bell 99 WR 2024 0 0 0 3 32 0 0 0 0 0     0 41 408 3     Purdue
    2022 4 Perrion Winfrey 108 DT 2025 0 0 0 1 15 0 0 0 0 0     0     0   0.5 Oklahoma
    2022 4 Cade York 124 K 2024 0 0 1 1 23 0 0 0 0 0     0     0     LSU
    2022 5 Jerome Ford 156 RB 2025 0 0 1 10 57 0 0 0 0 0 340 1463 7 107 647 5     Cincinnati
    2022 6 Michael Woods II 202 WR 2024 0 0 0 0 15 0 0 0 0 0 1 -5 0 12 110 0     Oklahoma
    2022 7 Isaiah Thomas 223 DE 2024 0 0 0 1 12 0 0 0 0 0     0     0   1.0 Oklahoma
    2022 7 Dawson D
  • its not that we didnt draft any they just whiffed also pay attention to their drafted slot 

  • If the Ravens end up firing John Harbaugh, would you guys want him? 

  • If the Ravens end up firing John Harbaugh, would you guys want him? 

    @secondwave said:

    If the Ravens end up firing John Harbaugh, would you guys want him? 

    I'd take John Harbaugh in a heartbeat.

  • sydS syd

    so Stefanski wins our last 2 games vs division foe's, Team did not quit on him, so for the haters don't be surprised if he is our coach next year 

    @syd said:

    so Stefanski wins our last 2 games vs division foe's, Team did not quit on him, so for the haters don't be surprised if he is our coach next year 

    I would prefer they fire Berry and keep Stefanski, rather than keep Berry and fire Stefanski, but.....something about Kevin's demeanor in talking to the press, makes me think he wants out.

  • If the Ravens end up firing John Harbaugh, would you guys want him? 

    @secondwave said:

    If the Ravens end up firing John Harbaugh, would you guys want him? 

    Absolutely. 

  • Berry isn't going to fire himself.  And most people, regardless of status and title, are too soft to take accountability and will punch down.  

  • @syd said:

    so a shit offense has nothing to do with trading away all those picks and giving that dude 240 million guaranteed. nope I guess note

    wait, that is a completely different story, of course that stupid deal screwed over the Browns, But not drafting olinemen and wr's they should have drafted has nothing to do with that stinking, dramatically asswholish trade.

    @calfoxwc said:

    wait, that is a completely different story, of course that stupid deal screwed over the Browns, But not drafting olinemen and wr's they should have drafted has nothing to do with that stinking, dramatically asswholish trade.

    When do Head Coaches get to pull rank on GMs and orchestrate such trades like that?   And who gave Watson the GUARANTEED money - the Head Coach?  You think it was Stefanski?  When I saw a press conference where Andrew Berry corrected a female reporter with a very sparky "I DIDN'T DRAFT BAKER MAYFIELD" - I knew they were done with Baker.  He was the plan of Dorsey so here came the ego of a the new GM about to get what he wanted very soon - and sending Baker packing in the process.  That GM wanted his own QB and giving up all those draft picks to get him - Berry neglected building the OL via the draft.  The ones he did pick have often been deemed in active for games.  The situation became so bad in recent weeks that Zinter has finally been active the last few weeks or so.  I don't think Berry has what it takes to build a team.  He inherited Garrett, Ward, Njoku, Bitonio, Teller and Chubb - more specifically - the Pro Bowl Nucleus

    If I'm a young QB prospect looking at teams that might be drafting a QB - I'm praying Andrew Berry doesn't want me for the Browns without any talent protecting the passer on the edges.  Last draft was a blind squirrel finding a nut. Berry needs to go the most IMO.  Having said all that, I DO agree things are stale with Stefanski here.  I just don't know if firing both the GM and HC at the same time is doable so I'd start with letting Berry go first.  It'll be interesting to see what happens.  

  • Well they fired Stefanski. I do not think this is the proper move. I would have given him 1 more year. The o-line was trash all year and the QB situation was in flux all year. Jeudy isn't the guy Cooper was, not eve close, so the offense sputtered. I would be interested in knowing how they evaluated the QBs in camp etc. Maybe this is where Stefanski got in trouble this year. While Sanders didn't knock it out of the park, he was way better then Gabriel. You should play the better player regardless of where they are drafted. All of that said, I think he should have been given another year. I am not sure what the expectation for this year was but a lot had to break right for the Browns this year and that didn't happen. Also, lets not forget that firing Stefanski might also mean Schwartz is gone. I hope that doesn't happen but its a strong possibility.

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  • I agree, with you guys Stefanski isn’t a HOF caliber HC but Berry didn’t give him much to work with.

    KS didn’t give up a shit ton of draft capital for the pervert QB.

    He also wasn’t responsible for trying to win with 2 rookie QB’s not to mention a piss poor offensive line.

  • I’m watching the presser with Hillbilly Haslam.

    He spent a great deal of time swinging on AB’s nutsack, particularly how his most recent draft went.

    Somehow he glossed over his previous lackluster performance in the draft.

    Not to mention not drafting a single offensive lineman, and drafting two rookie QB’s to lead us to the playoffs ??

  • I’m watching the presser with Hillbilly Haslam.

    He spent a great deal of time swinging on AB’s nutsack, particularly how his most recent draft went.

    Somehow he glossed over his previous lackluster performance in the draft.

    Not to mention not drafting a single offensive lineman, and drafting two rookie QB’s to lead us to the playoffs ??

    @canton-dawg said:

    I’m watching the presser with Hillbilly Haslam.

    He spent a great deal of time swinging on AB’s nutsack, particularly how his most recent draft went.

    Somehow he glossed over his previous lackluster performance in the draft.

    Not to mention not drafting a single offensive lineman, and drafting two rookie QB’s to lead us to the playoffs ??

    I think both Berry and Kevin should have had one more year. AB did some very good things this year, but he has had some bad misses over his tenure too. Hopefully, with this last draft he is turning the corner. I think the 2nd QB wasn't in the plan but when Sanders was sitting there at 5 they couldn't resist the value. The problem came I think when they tried to figure out how to navigate the QB situation and evaluating them. I believe Kevin probably set Dillon higher due to maybe liking him pre-draft and being a higher draft pick and that being part of their original plan. But we may never know since they never talk about any of this stuff so we are left to speculate. 

  • If the Ravens end up firing John Harbaugh, would you guys want him? 

    @secondwave said:

    If the Ravens end up firing John Harbaugh, would you guys want him? 

    That wouldn't happen, would it? 

    If so then a big yes from me 

  • So the guy who fucked up the Watson deal and left 2 rookie QBs with no OLs or WRs worthy of the name gets to stay? Stef should have just jumped on the Sanders bandwagon early and let it ride out rather than back a mediocre midget with a ragarm. He fucked himself and Berry made that clear to Hillbilly.

  • @secondwave said:

    If the Ravens end up firing John Harbaugh, would you guys want him? 

    That wouldn't happen, would it? 

    If so then a big yes from me 

    @claretbrown said:

    That wouldn't happen, would it? 

    If so then a big yes from me 

    Link: https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/ravens-hc-john-harbaugh-mic-150254055.html

    There are several other sites floating this around.

    God, I hope it's true. I wasn't too keen on firing Stefanski (grass ain't always greener), but this is would make me happy

  • Berry is a weasel.  He even looks like one with his beady eyes.