To Shedeur, or not to Shedeur? (draft)
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No fucking idiot here pal.
To the point, If we are sitting at 6-7, we shouldn't take a QB. Even at that point it would be too expensive to move up. If at 3 it might make sense to get that done.
I am resolved that we will go with Sanders though i would give one last effort to see what Watson has. If he is better than Sanders, he should play.
Both have baggage so it doesn't really matter though for a long term deal, sanders will probably play.
If Sanders plays well, good deal. I am all for that. If not the usual numbskulls will blame the coach for being racist, no weapons, bad playcalling, receivers who suck, O-line that can't block, an inferior cook in the team kitchen.
JMO here, but Shedufus is a stuck in the middle QB at best. We will win 6-9 games a year, maybe get a wildcard or two on our way to a one and out playoff run. .JMO on something else, and again, I hope I am wrong, but Brownsfans are eager to settle for mediocre because that is better than what most/many have seen in their lifetimes. Bernie was out last good to great QB. He retired 30-31 years ago. To actually remember with some cognitive reason, you need to be maybe 40 years old. I think you are and know that many others are that old, but just saying.
I hope it works out for the guy. Tell you what, if I live long enough to see it, if you are right and if I'm wrong, I will meet you in the middle of wherever you live ( decent sized city) and buy you a steak dinner. I'll pick the place because I am not sure you know where to go. You can approve. I say I because I have some club memberships that maybe you can't access. If you do, then great, we will go there on your membership. If I win, you come to Chattanooga and buy me a couple of drinks. Just standards Manhattans. No Pappy, just standard, Bullet Rye, Whistle Pig or some Woodward reserve type liquor.
Time frame. Maybe 3 years but if he does well, say two, I don't want to die out on you.
I'm up for a few bourbons myself lol, let's all meet up at Buffalo Trace!
Regarding Watson, I'd be shocked if he can come back and play at an NFL level. Simply not enough reps in what, 4 years? Not impossible but unlikely. But yes, he will be rostered, the cap hit is too much.
You're right, we haven't had a solid QB in so long, it's almost impossible to fathom.
I'm up for a few bourbons myself lol, let's all meet up at Buffalo Trace!
Regarding Watson, I'd be shocked if he can come back and play at an NFL level. Simply not enough reps in what, 4 years? Not impossible but unlikely. But yes, he will be rostered, the cap hit is too much.
You're right, we haven't had a solid QB in so long, it's almost impossible to fathom.
Good points Bob! Supply and demand has to come into play this year though. Again, the reality is that the Raiders, Jets and Browns are scaring many draft eligible QB prospects back to college football in 2026 to earn $ millions instead of feeling like beat up Hollywood stunt men. It is what it is.
When they checked out the Cleveland Browns and saw Cam Robinson protecting nobody at LT - I can't blame them 1 bit for not wanting any part of the Browns organization best known for screwing up the QB position. Do we have any proof Jimmy Haslam knows how to protect a QB investment? Heading into 2026 - the Browns don't have 1 starting caliber OTackle. That's not just sad - it's pathetic.
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I'm up for a few bourbons myself lol, let's all meet up at Buffalo Trace!
Regarding Watson, I'd be shocked if he can come back and play at an NFL level. Simply not enough reps in what, 4 years? Not impossible but unlikely. But yes, he will be rostered, the cap hit is too much.
You're right, we haven't had a solid QB in so long, it's almost impossible to fathom.
Good points Bob! Supply and demand has to come into play this year though. Again, the reality is that the Raiders, Jets and Browns are scaring many draft eligible QB prospects back to college football in 2026 to earn $ millions instead of feeling like beat up Hollywood stunt men. It is what it is.
When they checked out the Cleveland Browns and saw Cam Robinson protecting nobody at LT - I can't blame them 1 bit for not wanting any part of the Browns organization best known for screwing up the QB position. Do we have any proof Jimmy Haslam knows how to protect a QB investment? Heading into 2026 - the Browns don't have 1 starting caliber OTackle. That's not just sad - it's pathetic.
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the only one worse is the brown family
What mess Syd! We could combine our teams in Ohio and prolly still not have 2 decent OTackles.
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Unless we get Munoz and Thomas out of retirement
Regardless of age (and Munoz might be a grandfather)- they'd still be a massive upgrade.
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This is worth sharing here:
Mind you, Sanders didn't face a total defense ranked above 12th (Bills) and included the Bengals (30th), Titans (28th), Raiders (25th) and Bears (23rd). This is a worse QBR through the first series of games than notable Browns QBs such as:
-Deshone Kizer
-Cody Kessler (trust me on this one)
-Dorian Thompson-Robinson
and many more.
The "but what about talent" argument falls pretty flat to me considering Kizer, for example, was on a team that won 1 game in two seasons. I am not, in any sense of the word, a Sanders hater. I would want nothing more than to look at the body of work and think there's a franchise level QB in there somewhere if everything else was better. I am not an expert at this stuff, but every metric tells you that's just not true. I think the ceiling, at maximum, is a back-up caliber player. There's no head coach signing up for that.
Don't like QBR? See below:
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ok smart guy, regale me with some tales of who will be our qb next year ? are you just gonna jump up and shit one out ?
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ok smart guy, regale me with some tales of who will be our qb next year ? are you just gonna jump up and shit one out ?
ok smart guy, regale me with some tales of who will be our qb next year ? are you just gonna jump up and shit one out ?
We will probably see Shedufus.
Nice enough guy, just dumb as a stump.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
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doesnt mean he cant be good someday, I mean just look at Lamar
no, Sanders is elusive and slow to read the field, slow to take off - he is like Lamar's pet rock. Just kiddingl
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no, Sanders is elusive and slow to read the field, slow to take off - he is like Lamar's pet rock. Just kiddingl
i was kinda going with the doesnt seem to intelligent, football wise give him a line and someone to throw to, fucking see what happens, its not like we are going to be good next year anyway, well unless sanders go's wild
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We will probably see Shedufus.
Nice enough guy, just dumb as a stump.
I totally concur Peen... I see a few minimal flashes of brilliance in a few rare moments... But nothing that makes me think... "Smart" .. "Elite".. But as you go through the course of a season..you expect to see major jumps in key areas of ones game... He often misses the hot read opting to hang on for the hero play.. Then winds up going 20 yards backwards... I don't want to render him dead.. But I'm not hopeful.. I wouldnt be surprised though.. if Dillon is still here to see Dillon pass him up... And thats not saying much...
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Drafting a Franchise QB is the hardest thing in sports and the Browns 2.0, under three owners, 9/10 GMs and 12 Head Coaches have been the worst at in the last quarter century.
This scenario popped up, hopefully they aren't this stupid. We're so close to the end of the Watson disaster.
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Drafting a Franchise QB is the hardest thing in sports and the Browns 2.0, under three owners, 9/10 GMs and 12 Head Coaches have been the worst at in the last quarter century.
This scenario popped up, hopefully they aren't this stupid. We're so close to the end of the Watson disaster.
Drafting a Franchise QB is the hardest thing in sports and the Browns 2.0, under three owners, 9/10 GMs and 12 Head Coaches have been the worst at in the last quarter century.
This scenario popped up, hopefully they aren't this stupid. We're so close to the end of the Watson disaster.
The shitty OL & WR rooms that would occur if we traded away all those picks just to get one more QB with no supporting cast.
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ok smart guy, regale me with some tales of who will be our qb next year ? are you just gonna jump up and shit one out ?
ok smart guy, regale me with some tales of who will be our qb next year ? are you just gonna jump up and shit one out ?
You gotta love when objective stats and information is met with this sort of response.
To your question? Statistically any starting QB in the NFL this year would be an upgrade, so any of them that are available? See if Rivers wants to hop on the saddle again?
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ok smart guy, regale me with some tales of who will be our qb next year ? are you just gonna jump up and shit one out ?
You gotta love when objective stats and information is met with this sort of response.
To your question? Statistically any starting QB in the NFL this year would be an upgrade, so any of them that are available? See if Rivers wants to hop on the saddle again?
You gotta love when objective stats and information is met with this sort of response.
To your question? Statistically any starting QB in the NFL this year would be an upgrade, so any of them that are available? See if Rivers wants to hop on the saddle again?
rivers bbbbaaawhhahwha,,dude is fucking garbage, I would take shedeur over him any day also unless you didnt notice last year was a shit show on offense, did any of our qb's look good ? hell no they didnt but you choose to single out sanders, so do tell why ? should we have started zappe ?
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Drafting a Franchise QB is the hardest thing in sports and the Browns 2.0, under three owners, 9/10 GMs and 12 Head Coaches have been the worst at in the last quarter century.
This scenario popped up, hopefully they aren't this stupid. We're so close to the end of the Watson disaster.
Drafting a Franchise QB is the hardest thing in sports and the Browns 2.0, under three owners, 9/10 GMs and 12 Head Coaches have been the worst at in the last quarter century.
This scenario popped up, hopefully they aren't this stupid. We're so close to the end of the Watson disaster.
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