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  • FlugelF Flugel

    @syd said:

    LOL I just thought he was just on a extended vacation  with some football involved (Germany ?)

    You're gonna make me research and I can't give you the DAWG ate my homework?  

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    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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    @flugel said:

    You're gonna make me research and I can't give you the DAWG ate my homework?  

    For 2 frosted mugs full of Stella Artois:

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    IMO Joe is destined for the booth. He is that good at it. 

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      @flugel said:

      You're gonna make me research and I can't give you the DAWG ate my homework?  

      For 2 frosted mugs full of Stella Artois:

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      IMO Joe is destined for the booth. He is that good at it. 

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      FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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      @ibleedbrown said:

      IMO Joe is destined for the booth. He is that good at it. 

      That's very true!   That said, it seems like he has a very strong passion to teach and pass on his tricks of the trade.  Either direction he chooses to go - he'll be where he needs to be.  There isn't a wrong choice IMO.

      Okay @syd add 2 more frosted mugs full of beer for IBB.    

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        @ibleedbrown said:

        IMO Joe is destined for the booth. He is that good at it. 

        That's very true!   That said, it seems like he has a very strong passion to teach and pass on his tricks of the trade.  Either direction he chooses to go - he'll be where he needs to be.  There isn't a wrong choice IMO.

        Okay @syd add 2 more frosted mugs full of beer for IBB.    

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        @flugel said:

        That's very true!   That said, it seems like he has a very strong passion to teach and pass on his tricks of the trade.  Either direction he chooses to go - he'll be where he needs to be.  There isn't a wrong choice IMO.

        Okay @syd add 2 more frosted mugs full of beer for IBB.    

        you will be  drunk

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          ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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          It is what it is.  No real complaints except we kept the weasel.  Berry is a weasel.

          When he backed out of the bye week PC as has been held, he pushed everything over to Kevin and hid like a weasel.

          Hell, he even looks like a weasel with his beady eyes.  In the old days, a farmer would just trap him to protect his chicken coop, then club and skin him.

          So now we get Shedufus and Berry.  What a wonderful team.

          If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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            Stefanski already interviewing with Falcons, Giants, Titans. 

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            S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
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            @browns149 said:

            Stefanski already interviewing with Falcons, Giants, Titans. 

            No surprise.  He was linked to the Giants.

            For what it is worth if AB was fired he wouldn’t have the same interest 

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            • FlugelF Flugel

              @syd said:

              LOL I just thought he was just on a extended vacation  with some football involved (Germany ?)

              You're gonna make me research and I can't give you the DAWG ate my homework?  

              For 2 frosted mugs full of Stella Artois:

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              F FY56 wrote on last edited by FY56
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              @flugel said:

              You're gonna make me research and I can't give you the DAWG ate my homework?  

              For 2 frosted mugs full of Stella Artois:

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              European League of Football?

              ELF?

              I have a logo suggestion they can have.

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                @browns149 said:

                Stefanski already interviewing with Falcons, Giants, Titans. 

                No surprise.  He was linked to the Giants.

                For what it is worth if AB was fired he wouldn’t have the same interest 

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                Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                @sdbacker80 said:

                No surprise.  He was linked to the Giants.

                For what it is worth if AB was fired he wouldn’t have the same interest 

                Very true. But we’re stuck with Berry and Jimmy

                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                • Browns149B Browns149

                  Stefanski already interviewing with Falcons, Giants, Titans. 

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                  sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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                  @browns149 said:

                  Stefanski already interviewing with Falcons, Giants, Titans. 

                  I still think it was a mistake

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                    @browns149 said:

                    Stefanski already interviewing with Falcons, Giants, Titans. 

                    I still think it was a mistake

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                    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                    @syd said:

                    I still think it was a mistake

                    If they hire another no name coordinator guy then, yes, it’s a mistake 

                    The problem is keeping Berry and the dumb hierarchy they have. With the front office setup they have, they will never attract a Big Time coach. They are stuck with young, inexperienced yes men.
                    No experienced head coach wants to be around the structure that the Browns have. 

                    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                      bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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                      The last draft surely saved Berry, otherwise he'd be out too. 

                      As far as whether or not firing stefanski was the right move who knows, if it was me in charge I would have kept him. Not very excited about any of the candidates that have been tossed around so far.

                      Promoting schwartz and keeping rees would be comical, I wouldn't be surprised if schwartz himself gets some external HC interviews this year though.

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                      • bbedwardB bbedward

                        The last draft surely saved Berry, otherwise he'd be out too. 

                        As far as whether or not firing stefanski was the right move who knows, if it was me in charge I would have kept him. Not very excited about any of the candidates that have been tossed around so far.

                        Promoting schwartz and keeping rees would be comical, I wouldn't be surprised if schwartz himself gets some external HC interviews this year though.

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                        @bbedward said:

                        The last draft surely saved Berry, otherwise he'd be out too. 

                        As far as whether or not firing stefanski was the right move who knows, if it was me in charge I would have kept him. Not very excited about any of the candidates that have been tossed around so far.

                        Promoting schwartz and keeping rees would be comical, I wouldn't be surprised if schwartz himself gets some external HC interviews this year though.

                        Agreed. Aside from Klint Kubiak, not too keen on the HC candidates.

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                        • ballpeenB ballpeen

                          It is what it is.  No real complaints except we kept the weasel.  Berry is a weasel.

                          When he backed out of the bye week PC as has been held, he pushed everything over to Kevin and hid like a weasel.

                          Hell, he even looks like a weasel with his beady eyes.  In the old days, a farmer would just trap him to protect his chicken coop, then club and skin him.

                          So now we get Shedufus and Berry.  What a wonderful team.

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                          @ballpeen said:

                          It is what it is.  No real complaints except we kept the weasel.  Berry is a weasel.

                          When he backed out of the bye week PC as has been held, he pushed everything over to Kevin and hid like a weasel.

                          Hell, he even looks like a weasel with his beady eyes.  In the old days, a farmer would just trap him to protect his chicken coop, then club and skin him.

                          So now we get Shedufus and Berry.  What a wonderful team.

                          You mean when he chose not to do the press conference he is not required to do and no other GM in the NFL does....

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                          • ballpeenB ballpeen

                            It is what it is.  No real complaints except we kept the weasel.  Berry is a weasel.

                            When he backed out of the bye week PC as has been held, he pushed everything over to Kevin and hid like a weasel.

                            Hell, he even looks like a weasel with his beady eyes.  In the old days, a farmer would just trap him to protect his chicken coop, then club and skin him.

                            So now we get Shedufus and Berry.  What a wonderful team.

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                            FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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                            @ballpeen said:

                            It is what it is.  No real complaints except we kept the weasel.  Berry is a weasel.

                            When he backed out of the bye week PC as has been held, he pushed everything over to Kevin and hid like a weasel.

                            Hell, he even looks like a weasel with his beady eyes.  In the old days, a farmer would just trap him to protect his chicken coop, then club and skin him.

                            So now we get Shedufus and Berry.  What a wonderful team.

                            Yes, another episode of fire the scapegoat in Cleveland is upon us. Please stay tuned for our rinse and repeat in 3-4 years or less.  Other than that - things are perfect!

                            Jimmy had a choice - get rid of the disease killing his team or just 1 uncomfortable symptom.   He chose the symptom again.  The experience of this hasn't lied to us yet.

                            Question:  What happens if this team can't win more than 5 games again next year does Jimmy Fire the Coach again?  Or, fire the GM & hire a new GM without knowing if he'll be compatible with the coach?   

                            We're losing in the FO and it feels like the only person a million miles away from getting this is Jimmy Haslam...

                            Okay Jimmy - this one's for you from the Plimsouls... 

                            I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                              It is what it is.  No real complaints except we kept the weasel.  Berry is a weasel.

                              When he backed out of the bye week PC as has been held, he pushed everything over to Kevin and hid like a weasel.

                              Hell, he even looks like a weasel with his beady eyes.  In the old days, a farmer would just trap him to protect his chicken coop, then club and skin him.

                              So now we get Shedufus and Berry.  What a wonderful team.

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                              gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                              @ballpeen said:

                              So now we get Shedufus and Berry. 

                              What a wonderful team.

                              @browns149 said:

                              But we’re stuck with Berry and Jimmy

                              @flugel said:

                              Okay Jimmy - this one's for you

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                                @ballpeen said:

                                So now we get Shedufus and Berry. 

                                What a wonderful team.

                                @browns149 said:

                                But we’re stuck with Berry and Jimmy

                                @flugel said:

                                Okay Jimmy - this one's for you

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                                FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                                @gumby73 said:

                                ? Good to see ya Gumbs!  

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                                  There have been trades for head coaches, maybe not very often. But who would trade for steflunkski?

                                     He had to go. I can see Schwartz being the Browns HC for years if he gets promoted. Rees has quite a football history behind him = 

                                  a qb for Notre Dame, etc etc. I believe he could be kept as OC. 

                                  The Browns can draft another rookie qb in the 3rd/4rd round that would have a far better rookie year with the same teammates, I think.

                                  Why? His first year is over, and he still has the same limitations as he did in college. I believe he is more a backup qb in the NFL.

                                  Because:

                                  https://www.nfl.com/prospects/shedeur-sanders/32005341-4e47-8221-56fd-8e3864421298

                                  Weaknesses

                                  • Spacing and clearly defined route combinations make decision-making easier.
                                  • Drops beyond proper pocket depth and into edge rusher’s path.
                                  • Throws with a longer operation time.
                                  • Has completions on tape that will be interceptions in the pros.
                                  • Inconsistent bringing his lower half through his delivery.
                                  • Needs to become OK with taking profits and moving on.
                                  • Appears too confident in his off-platform game despite a lack of zip.
                                  • Doesn’t offer up much escapability quickness from the pocket.
                                  • Much too willing to take a big sack instead of throwing it away.
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                                  OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                                  @calfoxwc said:

                                  There have been trades for head coaches, maybe not very often. But who would trade for steflunkski?

                                  I think the question now is, will Stef get a HC job before we hire one?

                                  Essentially, firing only Stef is making him out to be 'the problem'.  But in reality, if Berry didn't have a good draft, he'd be packing up his office right now too.  And what is a 'good draft' in relation to the W/L record?  I mean, you left your HC with no receivers and a wicked bad OL, and rookie mid-round QB's.  Nobody in their right mind would be thinking that a team in that situation would win a lot of games.  So, when the team limps home with 5 wins, the 2 time coach of the year gets fired.  And not the guy that set him up for failure.

                                  I guarantee that HC candidate's agents will be telling their client, 'It's an unstable situation in Cleveland.  The GM saved his job by having a good draft class.  But his job might not be too safe.  Proceed with caution.'  

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                                    AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by Axe
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                                    What I keep hearing all day is how Stef is the best HC candidate out there and Cleve is the worst job 🙁 

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                                      @mddawg said:

                                      AB is not on borrowed time, the owner doesn't name him as head of the coaching search if that was the case. No incoming coach would take a job if they didn't think Berry was here to stay, they have their own sources to verify that. Jimmah would've canned Berry and started from scratch otherwise.

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                                      @sdbacker80 said:

                                      Stefanski was Depodesta’s choice reportedly over Kitchens many moons ago. When Depodesta bolted, that seemed like an omen regarding Stefanski..

                                      Berry has been an abject failure, like 1-31 level saschi brown level, until this draft offseason trade deadline.
                                       

                                      Depodesta , Stefanski, can’t be blamed anymore… all we browns/clowns fans can do is watch and see what happens.

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                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        There have been trades for head coaches, maybe not very often. But who would trade for steflunkski?

                                        I think the question now is, will Stef get a HC job before we hire one?

                                        Essentially, firing only Stef is making him out to be 'the problem'.  But in reality, if Berry didn't have a good draft, he'd be packing up his office right now too.  And what is a 'good draft' in relation to the W/L record?  I mean, you left your HC with no receivers and a wicked bad OL, and rookie mid-round QB's.  Nobody in their right mind would be thinking that a team in that situation would win a lot of games.  So, when the team limps home with 5 wins, the 2 time coach of the year gets fired.  And not the guy that set him up for failure.

                                        I guarantee that HC candidate's agents will be telling their client, 'It's an unstable situation in Cleveland.  The GM saved his job by having a good draft class.  But his job might not be too safe.  Proceed with caution.'  

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                                        @orion said:

                                        I think the question now is, will Stef get a HC job before we hire one?

                                        Essentially, firing only Stef is making him out to be 'the problem'.  But in reality, if Berry didn't have a good draft, he'd be packing up his office right now too.  And what is a 'good draft' in relation to the W/L record?  I mean, you left your HC with no receivers and a wicked bad OL, and rookie mid-round QB's.  Nobody in their right mind would be thinking that a team in that situation would win a lot of games.  So, when the team limps home with 5 wins, the 2 time coach of the year gets fired.  And not the guy that set him up for failure.

                                        I guarantee that HC candidate's agents will be telling their client, 'It's an unstable situation in Cleveland.  The GM saved his job by having a good draft class.  But his job might not be too safe.  Proceed with caution.'  

                                        Gotta think Stefanski is going to be the top candidate of this hiring cycle. 

                                        I was surprised. I wasn't surprised. I felt Baker had hit his ceiling un Cleveland. I didn't feel that way about Stefanski.

                                        Much like your last statement and the drums @flugel has been beating for years: in Cleveland, the retards are still in charge.

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                                          Well now that Steflunkski has been canned:...
                                          My top picks are as follows...
                                           
                                          Jim Schwarts:
                                           
                                          Staltwart  Defensive Coordinator with previous head coaching exp. While he was somewhat a disater in Detroit... I'd like to think he has learned and I think he can hire a good OC and ST's coach...
                                          Kliff Kngsbury:
                                           
                                          Was the Arizonal Cardinals HC and struggled to get Kylar"smurf" Murray to play meaningful football. Also has a problem with self ego.. However... He was a pretty decent QB in HS and College and would hope he to has grown from his last head coaching stint.
                                           
                                          Jon Gruden:
                                           
                                          If he can somehow get his legal affairs with the NFL in order, settled and then be reinstated... This would be my first choice. He's from the Area.. He loves Cleveland.. Loves Football and has won it all in Tampa.
                                           
                                          John Harbaugh:
                                           
                                          Rumors are swirling in Baltimore he might get canned. Another coach from Ohio I would nab instantly... He's always shown a solid steady hand in coaching. Also has won it all..
                                           
                                          These are my current choices.. Feel free to mention anyone I haven't mentioned
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