A look at the second round
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Then the season goes along and those players you are fist pumping, fade away. Posts like this, really make me wonder.
Perhaps, but it doesn't mean Mangini and Kokinis know what the f they're doing.
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@danamal said:
I find it hard at this point in time to like what I see from Mangini as far as his coaching abilitys go but there is no denying he has a very keen eye for talent in the draft.How do we know Mike Tannenbaum wasn't doing the drafting there?
@danamal said:
He left the Jets in very good shape just didnt get the coaching done,the players are though,go look at their roster.This confirms my suspicion. A fat idiot is a fat idiot.
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Then the season goes along and those players you are fist pumping, fade away. Posts like this, really make me wonder.
Then the season goes along and those players you are fist pumping, fade away. Posts like this, really make me wonder.
If these guys (our 3 picks) don't start seeing the field....on a perennial 4-12 team....I want new people in charge ....I won't even show you notable 3rd round guys!!!
What makes you wonder about...I think i am demonstratively clear
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I know. I was trying to reinforce it to people that don't understand.
Gotcha.
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Mangini pushed for all and recieved the Jets 2006-8 first round pick. He did not however, run the structure of the draft, which showed with his "Patriotsesque" handlement of the 2009 Browns draft.
It is what it is. Our top 2 rounds were generally guys who take longer to develope(C,WR and "2 gap" LB's) than other positions. They gave you a warning and you didn't listen.
This wasn't going to be some quick turnaround. The complete purging of the front office was also another sign.
This board has failed in several directions with its analysis. The whole hope was based on Brady Quinn which bombed out badly.
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Smith, Alphonso /Maualuga, Rey/ (RT) Britton, Eben/Butler Darius/Brown, Everette/Barwin, Connor/ (RT)Levitre, Andy /(RT)Loadholt, Phil/ McCoy, LeSean /Kruger, Paul/(RT)Beatty, William/Smith, Sean................ All these guys are second round starters 0r seeing significant Time on the field with much better teams than the Browns. We have Three (3)and all sit the fkn bench! It ain't cry baby it is fact. And the fact that this regime can't find a second round starter with three tries....TO ME....FKN sucks ass and I don't want them near my next years draft. If they play and contribute awesome....but none are really contributing anything but carring vets shoulder pads.
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We have Three (3)and all sit the fkn bench! It ain't cry baby it is fact. And the fact that this regime can't find a second round starter with three tries[/b]....TO ME....FKN sucks ass and I don't want them near my next years draft. If they play and contribute awesome....but none are really contributing anything but carring vets shoulder pads.
The major flaw in your logic is that rookies can come in and make an immediate impact. Especially with OL and WRs. There is a reason that excellent stats and contributions are relative to a player's tenure in the league. "That's pretty good. For a rookie". Rookies' main jobs are to look, listen, and learn. They will develope. The fact that ANYBODY is pissed about our draft after 3 games is just baseless misdirected anger towards the team. He is obviously building for the future and so this thread should be post-poned until this time next year.
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@danamal said:
I find it hard at this point in time to like what I see from Mangini as far as his coaching abilitys go but there is no denying he has a very keen eye for talent in the draft.How do we know Mike Tannenbaum wasn't doing the drafting there?
@danamal said:
He left the Jets in very good shape just didnt get the coaching done,the players are though,go look at their roster.This confirms my suspicion. A fat idiot is a fat idiot.
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We have Three (3)and all sit the fkn bench! It ain't cry baby it is fact. And the fact that this regime can't find a second round starter with three tries[/b]....TO ME....FKN sucks ass and I don't want them near my next years draft. If they play and contribute awesome....but none are really contributing anything but carring vets shoulder pads.
The major flaw in your logic is that rookies can come in and make an immediate impact. Especially with OL and WRs. There is a reason that excellent stats and contributions are relative to a player's tenure in the league. "That's pretty good. For a rookie". Rookies' main jobs are to look, listen, and learn. They will develope. The fact that ANYBODY is pissed about our draft after 3 games is just baseless misdirected anger towards the team. He is obviously building for the future and so this thread should be post-poned until this time next year.
The major flaw in your logic is that rookies can come in and make an immediate impact. Especially with OL and WRs. There is a reason that excellent stats and contributions are relative to a player's tenure in the league. "That's pretty good. For a rookie". Rookies' main jobs are to look, listen, and learn. They will develope. The fact that ANYBODY is pissed about our draft after 3 games is just baseless misdirected anger towards the team. He is obviously building for the future and so this thread should be post-poned until this time next year.
The major flaw in your logic is that rookies can come in and make an immediate impact. ha ha ha ha WOW.....Second rounders have to be impactful immediately....unless your as deep as the pats. 3 of ours don't start. it is fact. Man you drink the koolaid
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Then the season goes along and those players you are fist pumping, fade away. Posts like this, really make me wonder.
If these guys (our 3 picks) don't start seeing the field....on a perennial 4-12 team....I want new people in charge ....I won't even show you notable 3rd round guys!!!
What makes you wonder about...I think i am demonstratively clear
If these guys (our 3 picks) don't start seeing the field....on a perennial 4-12 team....I want new people in charge ....I won't even show you notable 3rd round guys!!!
What makes you wonder about...I think i am demonstratively clear
What makes me wonder is what do you expect out of a bunch of rookies playing on a terrible team? What, in reality, do you think they will add? Me, I think it would most likely hurt their developement more than anything else. At least this way, they learn and get hungrier and hungrier and hungrier until they get their shot when the team is a bit more stable and consistant. I'll take my chances with that scenario everytime over throwing a bunch of kids in and hoping for the best.
FAIL
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@danamal said:
I find it hard at this point in time to like what I see from Mangini as far as his coaching abilitys go but there is no denying he has a very keen eye for talent in the draft.He left the Jets in very good shape just didnt get the coaching done,the players are though,go look at their roster.
Vernon Gholston agrees.
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The major flaw in your logic is that rookies can come in and make an immediate impact. Especially with OL and WRs. There is a reason that excellent stats and contributions are relative to a player's tenure in the league. "That's pretty good. For a rookie". Rookies' main jobs are to look, listen, and learn. They will develope. The fact that ANYBODY is pissed about our draft after 3 games is just baseless misdirected anger towards the team. He is obviously building for the future and so this thread should be post-poned until this time next year.
The major flaw in your logic is that rookies can come in and make an immediate impact. ha ha ha ha WOW.....Second rounders have to be impactful immediately....unless your as deep as the pats. 3 of ours don't start. it is fact. Man you drink the koolaid
The major flaw in your logic is that rookies can come in and make an immediate impact. ha ha ha ha WOW.....Second rounders have to be impactful immediately....unless your as deep as the pats. 3 of ours don't start. it is fact. Man you drink the koolaid
I agree. With a team this bad to think that a 2nd rounder couldn't come in and displace someone to at least get some serious playing time - even if they're not making plays - says a lot.
Quality teams with depth have the luxury of letting 2nd and 3rd round picks sit on the bench and develop.
The Browns aren't a quality team with depth. The bottom line is that the Browns rookies are currently worse than bad starters and bad veteran backups. It's too soon to call them a bust but it doesn't bode well for the future.
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