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  • FlugelF Flugel

    @bob806 said:

    I was initially anti on the hire. After listening to Ross Tucker on 92.3 The Fan, I'm more optimistic.

    Conference USA Coach of the year after inheriting a winless team.  OC at Georgia, who were known as a defensive team, he got them offense. Did a good job with the dreaded Ratbirds. 

    Let it play out. Our frustration is the FO. Maybe they got something right for once.

    WELL SAID Bob!  I ran outta cyber thatta boys or you woulda got one here. Thanks for sharing that about what you heard from Ross Tucker.  He's had some very good success as an OC under strong Head Coaches.  I don't like Georgia's Kirby Smart but he's a very smart hard-nosed HC that the players play hard for.  Monken did a great job as an OC for him. As you pointed out - he did a good job under John Harbaugh in Baltimore.

    The thing I REALLY disliked about the whole thing today is they could have given Schwartz a heads up so he had a shot at working somewhere else (if someone didn't snap him up today).  It's the way Berry and Haslam do business that continue to show the rest of the league why Jimmy's team is where it is at today.

    @flugel said:

    WELL SAID Bob!  I ran outta cyber thatta boys or you woulda got one here.

      It's the way Berry and Haslam do business that continue to show the rest of the league why Jimmy's team is where it is at today.

    That is one of the quirks on our board....I'm usually out of those upvotes by 9am lol.

    Yeah, it appears they did Schwartz dirty. I doubt it gets patched up damnit

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  • Bob806B Bob806

    @flugel said:

    WELL SAID Bob!  I ran outta cyber thatta boys or you woulda got one here.

      It's the way Berry and Haslam do business that continue to show the rest of the league why Jimmy's team is where it is at today.

    That is one of the quirks on our board....I'm usually out of those upvotes by 9am lol.

    Yeah, it appears they did Schwartz dirty. I doubt it gets patched up damnit

    @bob806 said:

    it appears they did Schwartz dirty

    he should have known that he was a last resort back up plan

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  • FlugelF Flugel

    @bob806 said:

    I was initially anti on the hire. After listening to Ross Tucker on 92.3 The Fan, I'm more optimistic.

    Conference USA Coach of the year after inheriting a winless team.  OC at Georgia, who were known as a defensive team, he got them offense. Did a good job with the dreaded Ratbirds. 

    Let it play out. Our frustration is the FO. Maybe they got something right for once.

    WELL SAID Bob!  I ran outta cyber thatta boys or you woulda got one here. Thanks for sharing that about what you heard from Ross Tucker.  He's had some very good success as an OC under strong Head Coaches.  I don't like Georgia's Kirby Smart but he's a very smart hard-nosed HC that the players play hard for.  Monken did a great job as an OC for him. As you pointed out - he did a good job under John Harbaugh in Baltimore.

    The thing I REALLY disliked about the whole thing today is they could have given Schwartz a heads up so he had a shot at working somewhere else (if someone didn't snap him up today).  It's the way Berry and Haslam do business that continue to show the rest of the league why Jimmy's team is where it is at today.

    @flugel said:

    I ran outta cyber thatta boys or you woulda got one here.

    I got home from a medical procedure around 2:30pm.  Turned on the laptop, and was out of emoji's without even using one.

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  • OrionO Orion

    @flugel said:

    I ran outta cyber thatta boys or you woulda got one here.

    I got home from a medical procedure around 2:30pm.  Turned on the laptop, and was out of emoji's without even using one.

    @orion said:

    I got home from a medical procedure around 2:30pm.  Turned on the laptop, and was out of emoji's without even using one.

    you mean like these 

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    @orion said:

    I got home from a medical procedure around 2:30pm.  Turned on the laptop, and was out of emoji's without even using one.

    you mean like these 

    @syd said:

    you mean like these 

    Yes, I mean like, the Upvote, Like, Thanks, etc. 

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    @flugel said:

    I ran outta cyber thatta boys or you woulda got one here.

    I got home from a medical procedure around 2:30pm.  Turned on the laptop, and was out of emoji's without even using one.

    @orion said:

    I got home from a medical procedure around 2:30pm.  Turned on the laptop, and was out of emoji's without even using one.

    Hope you're feeling better!  Yeah, I felt I gave out a lot more kudos yesterday than I did today so it caught me off guard today.  

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • Bob806B Bob806

    @flugel said:

    WELL SAID Bob!  I ran outta cyber thatta boys or you woulda got one here.

      It's the way Berry and Haslam do business that continue to show the rest of the league why Jimmy's team is where it is at today.

    That is one of the quirks on our board....I'm usually out of those upvotes by 9am lol.

    Yeah, it appears they did Schwartz dirty. I doubt it gets patched up damnit

    @bob806 said:

    That is one of the quirks on our board....I'm usually out of those upvotes by 9am lol.

    Yeah, it appears they did Schwartz dirty. I doubt it gets patched up damnit

    ? Per the part in bold above.  It's easy to do in a good topic.  In lieu of wasting some on the laugh emoticon - we can do the same thing snagging a laugh from the tool bar above.  After getting haunted by the Ghost of Christmas Past last month - it also seems more like laughing with someone than at them.  I've been re-thinking my fondness for Shakespeare... 

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    This isn’t a move that is going to do a lot to excite the Browns fans. I get it.

    But he is a guy whose last year as a college head coach was very successful, then helped transform a Georgia team from a defense first program to one that was explosive enough on offense to win two national championships, then helped Lamar Jackson become a legitimate passer in the pros, but the last year was a struggle.

    He’s kind of the anti-Kevin Stefanski. He’s brutally honest and can rub people the wrong way. He’s never going to be considered a “players coach”.

    @dutch-oven said:

    He’s kind of the anti-Kevin Stefanski. He’s brutally honest and can rub people the wrong way. He’s never going to be considered a “players coach”.

    Being  "brutally honest", being able to navigate tough topics & conversations, doesn't/shouldn't preclude one from being a players coach.    You don't have to look far, right down the road to Vogt, for a great example.

  • With some reflection I'm fine with the hire. It's now revealed that Schwartz was going to leave if he wasn't given the HC job no matter who was hired. In that case better to hire Monken than some offensive assistant and to be frank Monken is a bit of a proven offensive genius. Because he's relatively old (compared to the Ben Johnsons, LeFleurs, etc) he's been overlooked but he could be the next Bruce Arians. Excited to see what he'll do for our run game (literally resurrected Henry's career), TE's and even QB. He made that Georgia QB who won the national champ look like an All American.

  • Bob806B Bob806

    @flugel said:

    WELL SAID Bob!  I ran outta cyber thatta boys or you woulda got one here.

      It's the way Berry and Haslam do business that continue to show the rest of the league why Jimmy's team is where it is at today.

    That is one of the quirks on our board....I'm usually out of those upvotes by 9am lol.

    Yeah, it appears they did Schwartz dirty. I doubt it gets patched up damnit

    @bob806 said:

    That is one of the quirks on our board....I'm usually out of those upvotes by 9am lol.

    Yeah, it appears they did Schwartz dirty. I doubt it gets patched up damnit

    It would be somewhat telling if Stefanski didn’t take him…maybe they didn’t see eye to eye on things?  

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  • It was fun watching the comments go from “nooooo” to “eh, maybe?”

    i don’t know enough to have an opinion on Monken, but hey, he was willing to take the job and that’s something. Baltimore typically has a pretty good offense too.

    Funkin’ with Monken. 

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  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown

    It was fun watching the comments go from “nooooo” to “eh, maybe?”

    i don’t know enough to have an opinion on Monken, but hey, he was willing to take the job and that’s something. Baltimore typically has a pretty good offense too.

    Funkin’ with Monken. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    It was fun watching the comments go from “nooooo” to “eh, maybe?”

    i don’t know enough to have an opinion on Monken, but hey, he was willing to take the job and that’s something. Baltimore typically has a pretty good offense too.

    Funkin’ with Monken. 

    Count me in as one of 'em lol

    after actually learning a little about him I'm good now

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  • I think I understand. 

    Andrew Berry was hired on 1-28-2020.  So Jimmy wonders how things might be different had he hired Monken right then, when he hired Berry.  So he walks out to the garage, gets in his DeLorean he bought at a comicon in the 80's, sets the date, and turns on the flux capacitor.  Poof!

    I wonder at what point today he realized it wasn't the car from the Michael J. Fox documentary?

    “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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  • I don't mind the Monken hire.  He is a proven OC who seems to be able to rev up a O.  I don't like how this went with Schwartz.

    I would seek to trade Schwartz, assuming things can't be patched up, raise Tarver up to DC which could make things stay the same on D, at least as much as possible.

    I have no idea what we could get by trading a DC?  Maybe a 3rd?

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    I don't mind the Monken hire.  He is a proven OC who seems to be able to rev up a O.  I don't like how this went with Schwartz.

    I would seek to trade Schwartz, assuming things can't be patched up, raise Tarver up to DC which could make things stay the same on D, at least as much as possible.

    I have no idea what we could get by trading a DC?  Maybe a 3rd?

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't mind the Monken hire.  He is a proven OC who seems to be able to rev up a O.  I don't like how this went with Schwartz.

    I would seek to trade Schwartz, assuming things can't be patched up, raise Tarver up to DC which could make things stay the same on D, at least as much as possible.

    I have no idea what we could get by trading a DC?  Maybe a 3rd?

    I wonder if the Browns can afford to do a buyout of his contract

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  • I'm really trying to be optimistic about this Monken hire.

    He turns 60 next week. Bruce Arians was 60 when he got his first head coaching gig. 

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    @bob806 said:

    That is one of the quirks on our board....I'm usually out of those upvotes by 9am lol.

    Yeah, it appears they did Schwartz dirty. I doubt it gets patched up damnit

    It would be somewhat telling if Stefanski didn’t take him…maybe they didn’t see eye to eye on things?  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    It would be somewhat telling if Stefanski didn’t take him…maybe they didn’t see eye to eye on things?  

    I'm sure they didn't at times. It could also be Stefanski knew Schwartz wanted a HC gig opportunity. 

    If Schwartz leaves, the Browns D will make adjustments to the new coaches scheme. I'm not ultra-worried about it now. 

    Kind of off topic, I wouldn't mind seeing another speedy, tough LB on the D to complement Schwesinger & Bush.

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    I'm really trying to be optimistic about this Monken hire.

    He turns 60 next week. Bruce Arians was 60 when he got his first head coaching gig. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm really trying to be optimistic about this Monken hire.

    He turns 60 next week. Bruce Arians was 60 when he got his first head coaching gig. 

    With proper care of health (diet, exercise) & healthcare tech in the NFL, 60 really is the new 50.   Pete Caroll looks like he's 10 years younger than what he is.     

    Remember - wear out, don't rust out.

    @bob806 said:

    If Schwartz leaves, the Browns D will make adjustments to the new coaches scheme. I'm not ultra-worried about it now. 

    It is a concern.  Especially if the new coach brings new language & structure.

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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm really trying to be optimistic about this Monken hire.

    He turns 60 next week. Bruce Arians was 60 when he got his first head coaching gig. 

    With proper care of health (diet, exercise) & healthcare tech in the NFL, 60 really is the new 50.   Pete Caroll looks like he's 10 years younger than what he is.     

    Remember - wear out, don't rust out.

    @bob806 said:

    If Schwartz leaves, the Browns D will make adjustments to the new coaches scheme. I'm not ultra-worried about it now. 

    It is a concern.  Especially if the new coach brings new language & structure.

    @tiamat63 said:

    It is a concern.  Especially if the new coach brings new language & structure.

    Sure, especially on language. The structure is bound to be somewhat different, but my hope would be since the offense needs so much fixing, they will most likely ride with the players they already have. 

    I don't envision many new starters on defense. Stay healthy & adapt to the new DC?

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