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  • I'm not railing against Monken...but if they'd have hired Schwartz then the D would've stayed very much the same.  even if he named somebody the DC.

    But we now know that Haslam preferred an offensive minded HC.  I get that.  It's a league where you need a good offense.  This year was a prime example of how far a really good D could take you while having a really bad O.

  • @ballpeen said:

    I don't mind the Monken hire.  He is a proven OC who seems to be able to rev up a O.  I don't like how this went with Schwartz.

    I would seek to trade Schwartz, assuming things can't be patched up, raise Tarver up to DC which could make things stay the same on D, at least as much as possible.

    I have no idea what we could get by trading a DC?  Maybe a 3rd?

    I wonder if the Browns can afford to do a buyout of his contract

    @nickers said:

    I wonder if the Browns can afford to do a buyout of his contract

    Coach contracts don't attach to any salary cap numbers. We could afford to pay him.  Since Schwartz seems to have walked out, we don't have to pay him anything.  We hold him for a year if he ever wants to coach somewhere down the road.  I doubt we would do that.

    IMO, assuming he doesn't coach here next year is we will trade him and the other team takes his contract, or we reach some sort of buyout agreement with him and his agent, be it some sort of settled monetary agreement or his simple release with no compensation. Both sides would agree to simply void the last remaining year of the contract.

  • @bob806 said:

    I'm sure they didn't at times. It could also be Stefanski knew Schwartz wanted a HC gig opportunity. 

    If Schwartz leaves, the Browns D will make adjustments to the new coaches scheme. I'm not ultra-worried about it now. 

    Kind of off topic, I wouldn't mind seeing another speedy, tough LB on the D to complement Schwesinger & Bush.

    I could be wrong, but Schwartz’s defense seems to have specific attributes needed for their DLine. I’m worried that someone new comes in and say Mason Graham is now a bad fit.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I could be wrong, but Schwartz’s defense seems to have specific attributes needed for their DLine. I’m worried that someone new comes in and say Mason Graham is now a bad fit.

    That is why I would advocate that Monken seriously considers elevating Tarver to DC.  Tarver has been a DC in the NFL before. Tarver might add a bit more of the things he likes, but he is probably smart enough to not fool with terms and the basic structure of the D.

    But that is putting the cart before the horse. We will first have to settle the Schwartz situation. We need to do that quickly.  We have a bunch of assistant coaches who have no idea if they have jobs or not.  This is prime time staff filling season.  Our guys don't want to be in limbo.  They don't want to be stuck on the sidelines while other teams fill roles they might hope to get.

  • I'm not railing against Monken...but if they'd have hired Schwartz then the D would've stayed very much the same.  even if he named somebody the DC.

    But we now know that Haslam preferred an offensive minded HC.  I get that.  It's a league where you need a good offense.  This year was a prime example of how far a really good D could take you while having a really bad O.

    @orion said:

    I'm not railing against Monken...but if they'd have hired Schwartz then the D would've stayed very much the same.  even if he named somebody the DC.

    But we now know that Haslam preferred an offensive minded HC.  I get that.  It's a league where you need a good offense.  This year was a prime example of how far a really good D could take you while having a really bad O.

    Makes sense - the way Jimmy does things is very offensive.  One of the guys on the Pat McAfee show was saying he power plays Berry without letting Berry know what he's thinking before doing so. The problem with all that is the time Berry/any GM commits to something good communication from owner either makes that process doable or a waste of time. I rarely factored that in when venting my frustration about Berry. Haslam has to be one of the most difficult owners to work for and trust...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I could be wrong, but Schwartz’s defense seems to have specific attributes needed for their DLine. I’m worried that someone new comes in and say Mason Graham is now a bad fit.

    That is why I would advocate that Monken seriously considers elevating Tarver to DC.  Tarver has been a DC in the NFL before. Tarver might add a bit more of the things he likes, but he is probably smart enough to not fool with terms and the basic structure of the D.

    But that is putting the cart before the horse. We will first have to settle the Schwartz situation. We need to do that quickly.  We have a bunch of assistant coaches who have no idea if they have jobs or not.  This is prime time staff filling season.  Our guys don't want to be in limbo.  They don't want to be stuck on the sidelines while other teams fill roles they might hope to get.

    @ballpeen said:

    We will first have to settle the Schwartz situation. We need to do that quickly.

    Yes, Senior Bowl week is sliding past us.  Hopefully Berry's got scouts there evaluating, but it would be nice to have the HC there watching...but he's probably too busy trying to figure out what Jimmuh is going to let him do as far as hiring his own people for positions.

  • @ballpeen said:

    We will first have to settle the Schwartz situation. We need to do that quickly.

    Yes, Senior Bowl week is sliding past us.  Hopefully Berry's got scouts there evaluating, but it would be nice to have the HC there watching...but he's probably too busy trying to figure out what Jimmuh is going to let him do as far as hiring his own people for positions.

    @orion said:

    Yes, Senior Bowl week is sliding past us.  Hopefully Berry's got scouts there evaluating, but it would be nice to have the HC there watching...but he's probably too busy trying to figure out what Jimmuh is going to let him do as far as hiring his own people for positions.

    I hear ya.  I'm guessing at least the scouting staff will be there and maybe Berry.

  • I hope Todd Monken is the guy.

    I hope Shadeur Sanders is the guy.

    I hope Andrew Berry has improved.

    I hope Jimmy Haslam has improved. 

    I just want the Browns to win. 

    That is all.

  • @mddawg said:

    Monken's growing on me, like a straight shooter.

    Funny, I just went to post this here.

    Maybe we are winning the off season quietly, long way to go though

  • I miss those smooth round helmets.  Welcome Todd.  One thing for sure is that  he's already familiar with our team...the D especially, from playing us twice a year.  And familiar with the surroundings since he was here under Kitchens.  So that's a head start on things.  But before he can focus too much on the team, he has a staff to fill out.  I'm sure he'll want to know soonish if Schwartz is going to be his DC or not.

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  • Sure seems like Monken wants to work with Shedeur. Good sign.

    I wasn't a fan initially of the Monken hire but I'm starting to come around.

  • Not for nothing but Shedeur is there in the coach's first hours in the building.  He's not headed overseas like Watson.  He's there talking with the coach about football, future of the team, etc., etc.  ( I like Shedeur Sanders ) 

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  • Bubba JWe'll just have to wait and see the results of Monken being the HC. If anyone can be a head coach under haslam....... haslam loves hiring puppets.

  • Bubba JWe'll just have to wait and see the results of Monken being the HC. If anyone can be a head coach under haslam....... haslam loves hiring puppets.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Bubba JWe'll just have to wait and see the results of Monken being the HC. If anyone can be a head coach under haslam....... haslam loves hiring puppets.

    yet another poster  who would like to see us fail so he can feel good about himself

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    @calfoxwc said:

    Bubba JWe'll just have to wait and see the results of Monken being the HC. If anyone can be a head coach under haslam....... haslam loves hiring puppets.

    yet another poster  who would like to see us fail so he can feel good about himself

    @syd said:

    yet another poster  who would like to see us fail so he can feel good about himself

    I like this hire... It's probably the first time in years I felt good about this..... I'm all in.. Let's see what happens..