ESPN 2 Unsportsmanlike Morning Show Concluded Monken Insulted Jim Schwartz - They're WRONG & IRRESPONSIBLE
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just release him and he does whatever he likes
That's it... Coordinators move on.... You can't keep people forever.. I wish him well.. He's a good guy..... He just got caught up in a fucked up situation that was basically created by Jimmy.. Hopefully Jimmy learns his lesson and treats people with a little more tact from here on out...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
To make the first game in the country that matchup certainly is something. Good thing the French are notoriously known for their generosity to outsiders, /s
Oh yes, 100%- It's very, very obvious that Jimmy just can't stay out of the "room where it happens" to quote Hamilton. It's absolutely the reason we're in the Watson mess and this coaching search transpired the way it did. I also pretty strongly believe it's why Sanders is on this team, amongst many other bad decisions.
It's honestly wild how the Browns were a solid playoff team just 4 years ago- so much ruined by an owner who can't help himself.
jrb, we're the only fan-base that morphed into a massive support group.
jrb, we're the only fan-base that morphed into a massive support group.
I can tell you this much man. As a 36 year old guy with a family, this was the first year I truly didn't care about being available to watch games, or otherwise watching games in less than ideal ways (on my phone at the park, following ESPN, etc). My old man gets the Sunday Ticket as a veteran for cheap ($75 for the season to split) so I keep that in full honesty for the fantasy football/ betting enjoyment I do during the season. If that goes up significantly, it's being dropped 100%
There's just no reason to care significantly- I'll always enjoy talking with fellow fans to your point, and I will always be a fan of the team. But it's just pure, straight apathy at this point. The only time I'll even consider going to a game is if they play in miami, and even then it's more so to spend time with my family and my in-laws who are dolphins fans.
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jrb, we're the only fan-base that morphed into a massive support group.
I can tell you this much man. As a 36 year old guy with a family, this was the first year I truly didn't care about being available to watch games, or otherwise watching games in less than ideal ways (on my phone at the park, following ESPN, etc). My old man gets the Sunday Ticket as a veteran for cheap ($75 for the season to split) so I keep that in full honesty for the fantasy football/ betting enjoyment I do during the season. If that goes up significantly, it's being dropped 100%
There's just no reason to care significantly- I'll always enjoy talking with fellow fans to your point, and I will always be a fan of the team. But it's just pure, straight apathy at this point. The only time I'll even consider going to a game is if they play in miami, and even then it's more so to spend time with my family and my in-laws who are dolphins fans.
I can tell you this much man. As a 36 year old guy with a family, this was the first year I truly didn't care about being available to watch games, or otherwise watching games in less than ideal ways (on my phone at the park, following ESPN, etc). My old man gets the Sunday Ticket as a veteran for cheap ($75 for the season to split) so I keep that in full honesty for the fantasy football/ betting enjoyment I do during the season. If that goes up significantly, it's being dropped 100%
There's just no reason to care significantly- I'll always enjoy talking with fellow fans to your point, and I will always be a fan of the team. But it's just pure, straight apathy at this point. The only time I'll even consider going to a game is if they play in miami, and even then it's more so to spend time with my family and my in-laws who are dolphins fans.
I hear ya! I feel like Wiley Coyote that never stops hoping he's gonna get the game! Every time it backfires - the sting magnifies.
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I normally enjoy the trio and watching them argue sports topics that interest me. I usually favor Canty's view so today caught me completely off guard.
Today, I watched some really disappointing and irresponsible sports journalism from Chris Canty taken from Mary Kay's question to Monken. I watched the presser twice. In the brief period Monken spoke, he mentioned he had to prepare for Jim Schwartz' defense twice a year and that he respects Jim Schwartz. The length of the presser where he spoke and answered questions was only about 13 minutes, if that. Anyway, Monken also made it a point in another part of the presser when asked about Schwartz to say it wouldn't be fair to talk about Schwartz while adding he respects him.
Canty went on to say that Monken trying to show up a Coach that has already earned the players' respect was a horrible move as a brand new HC. The ONLY horrible move I saw was Canty taking things out of context in his Cliffs Notes caliber research. The only thing Canty proved is he was in a hurry with his research so much so that he would've seen the respect that his limited effort wasn't able to include.
If Chris Canty was going to call out Todd Monken for insulting Jim Schwartz - he should have at least watched and listened to the entire presser instead of only reading/listening to the 15 seconds of it he made his entire outspoken conclusion about. There were 2 different occasions when Schwartz was brought up and neither showed any disrespect from Monken toward Schwartz. In fact, wanting to KEEP the same Defense the players are cozy and familiar with is compliment to the work Schwartz did here whether he intended it to be or not.
From a fan that wanted Schwartz to get the PROMOTION to HC rather than seeing him insulted via Haslam & Berry requiring him to win an essay contest and do homework before a 2nd interview - If I felt Monken insulted Schwartz there is a 0% chance I would have remained church mouse quiet about it. While I don't blame Schwartz for feeling insulted by the Owner & GM - I really wish he would remember he never wanted to be HC here in lieu of his comfort zone that he could continue to perfect if he agreed to stay on as the DC. Back when Marty Schottenheimer wanted to keep Lindy Infante's Offense here when Infante departed for GB - the guy that took over the OC duty with that offense didn't have the background or understanding of how to utilize it all nearly as well. It never ran nearly as efficiently again. Sooo, I'd love to see Schwartz return as the DC & Assistant HC. They freakin gave Bubba Ventrone the titles of ST Coordinator & Assistant HC just to put it in perspective...
Canty is a dumb racist monkey...
Canty is a dumb racist monkey...
You literally should be thrown off this board for this nonsense, but it’s been established how fond Steve is for racist pieces of shit like you
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You literally should be thrown off this board for this nonsense, but it’s been established how fond Steve is for racist pieces of shit like you
Kiss my ass hillbilly... Canty is a racist POS... I call it as I see it... Go pound rocks...
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just release him and he does whatever he likes
That's it... Coordinators move on.... You can't keep people forever.. I wish him well.. He's a good guy..... He just got caught up in a fucked up situation that was basically created by Jimmy.. Hopefully Jimmy learns his lesson and treats people with a little more tact from here on out...
That's it... Coordinators move on.... You can't keep people forever.. I wish him well.. He's a good guy..... He just got caught up in a fucked up situation that was basically created by Jimmy.. Hopefully Jimmy learns his lesson and treats people with a little more tact from here on out...
I thing I have never heard mentioned and there has to some kind of source, is what Schwartz's plan for the other side of the ball was ? I mean its not like he was going to call plays or put a gameplan together, did he have a certain OC in mind ?
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That's it... Coordinators move on.... You can't keep people forever.. I wish him well.. He's a good guy..... He just got caught up in a fucked up situation that was basically created by Jimmy.. Hopefully Jimmy learns his lesson and treats people with a little more tact from here on out...
I thing I have never heard mentioned and there has to some kind of source, is what Schwartz's plan for the other side of the ball was ? I mean its not like he was going to call plays or put a gameplan together, did he have a certain OC in mind ?
I thing I have never heard mentioned and there has to some kind of source, is what Schwartz's plan for the other side of the ball was ? I mean its not like he was going to call plays or put a gameplan together, did he have a certain OC in mind ?
Thats the thing that concerned me more than anything.. The D was gonna be okay... Even with Monken.. Whose the special teams guy gonna be? And I'm sure Berry and Jimmy had the same concerns , obviously...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I thing I have never heard mentioned and there has to some kind of source, is what Schwartz's plan for the other side of the ball was ? I mean its not like he was going to call plays or put a gameplan together, did he have a certain OC in mind ?
Thats the thing that concerned me more than anything.. The D was gonna be okay... Even with Monken.. Whose the special teams guy gonna be? And I'm sure Berry and Jimmy had the same concerns , obviously...
Thats the thing that concerned me more than anything.. The D was gonna be okay... Even with Monken.. Whose the special teams guy gonna be? And I'm sure Berry and Jimmy had the same concerns , obviously...
The 1st time Vrable was a HC - the Titans Offensive side of the ball got him fired. THIS time - he hired the perfect OC for his team and young QB.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Berry did mention that anyone that associated him with Scheelhaase was an undercover racist, but aside from that point, is Cory Undlin a serious contender?
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I thing I have never heard mentioned and there has to some kind of source, is what Schwartz's plan for the other side of the ball was ? I mean its not like he was going to call plays or put a gameplan together, did he have a certain OC in mind ?
Thats the thing that concerned me more than anything.. The D was gonna be okay... Even with Monken.. Whose the special teams guy gonna be? And I'm sure Berry and Jimmy had the same concerns , obviously...
Thats the thing that concerned me more than anything.. The D was gonna be okay... Even with Monken.. Whose the special teams guy gonna be? And I'm sure Berry and Jimmy had the same concerns , obviously...
Monken has been coaching long enough to know someone that knows someone else that's gotta guy who has a guy. When the Jets returned a kickoff and a punt for a TD that would have guaranteed me we the next STs Coordinator would be a huge upgrade (even if by accident) if this wasn't the Browns...
If Berry & Haslam don't pull rank on Monken he can probably find himself a good ST Coordinator. FWIW, John Harbaugh was a ST Coordinator in Philly before he was Head Cheese in Ratville. Since he was hired as a HC for the Giants in the other Conference - he may be a good resource for Todd in terms of good candidates if he doesn't already have his own network.
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Thats the thing that concerned me more than anything.. The D was gonna be okay... Even with Monken.. Whose the special teams guy gonna be? And I'm sure Berry and Jimmy had the same concerns , obviously...
Monken has been coaching long enough to know someone that knows someone else that's gotta guy who has a guy. When the Jets returned a kickoff and a punt for a TD that would have guaranteed me we the next STs Coordinator would be a huge upgrade (even if by accident) if this wasn't the Browns...
If Berry & Haslam don't pull rank on Monken he can probably find himself a good ST Coordinator. FWIW, John Harbaugh was a ST Coordinator in Philly before he was Head Cheese in Ratville. Since he was hired as a HC for the Giants in the other Conference - he may be a good resource for Todd in terms of good candidates if he doesn't already have his own network.
Monken has been coaching long enough to know someone that knows someone else that's gotta guy who has a guy. When the Jets returned a kickoff and a punt for a TD that would have guaranteed me we the next STs Coordinator would be a huge upgrade (even if by accident) if this wasn't the Browns...
If Berry & Haslam don't pull rank on Monken he can probably find himself a good ST Coordinator. FWIW, John Harbaugh was a ST Coordinator in Philly before he was Head Cheese in Ratville. Since he was hired as a HC for the Giants in the other Conference - he may be a good resource for Todd in terms of good candidates if he doesn't already have his own network.
Yeah , I'm still scratching my head as to why the Rams hired Bubba...But he's their problem now...
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Monken has been coaching long enough to know someone that knows someone else that's gotta guy who has a guy. When the Jets returned a kickoff and a punt for a TD that would have guaranteed me we the next STs Coordinator would be a huge upgrade (even if by accident) if this wasn't the Browns...
If Berry & Haslam don't pull rank on Monken he can probably find himself a good ST Coordinator. FWIW, John Harbaugh was a ST Coordinator in Philly before he was Head Cheese in Ratville. Since he was hired as a HC for the Giants in the other Conference - he may be a good resource for Todd in terms of good candidates if he doesn't already have his own network.
Yeah , I'm still scratching my head as to why the Rams hired Bubba...But he's their problem now...
Yeah , I'm still scratching my head as to why the Rams hired Bubba...But he's their problem now...
Just a guess - but I think he has a HC that wants to have input on all 3 phases. For example, he has a running game Coordinator & also has a passing game Coordinator and yet - he's (McVay's) the one wiring in the play to the huddle (which I'm guessing includes his final say or veto to HIS play quite often).
I'm sure the HC will be as micro-managing with STs... Just seems like that kind of guy; and he does it in a way those working for him are happy to be where they are. Under better leadership above - it's possible he's everything we thought he could be here. Not only that, the bottom of the active roster there (where Special Teamer's are) is pretty talented compared to the one here.
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Thats the thing that concerned me more than anything.. The D was gonna be okay... Even with Monken.. Whose the special teams guy gonna be? And I'm sure Berry and Jimmy had the same concerns , obviously...
The 1st time Vrable was a HC - the Titans Offensive side of the ball got him fired. THIS time - he hired the perfect OC for his team and young QB.
Titans Offensive side of the ball got him fired
Vrabel's refusal to be a yesman to a meddling owner who knew nothing got him fired. And Pats adjustments all season weren't exactly great, you're not wrong about the O but that wasn't primary.
Pretty sure he wouldnt even pick up the phone if Cleveland called..
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