Browns/Bengals According to Schein
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Masters said:
Quit making shit up then. Neither I, no JADBF have said DA has done nothing or even alluded to it.You should take your one p.s. advise their.
Masters,
I really think you are going off the deep end. You started strong and stayed strong and then you started running out of gas and now you are sitting on the side of the road with a gas can in one hand and a cell phone in the other.
Masters,
I really think you are going off the deep end. You started strong and stayed strong and then you started running out of gas and now you are sitting on the side of the road with a gas can in one hand and a cell phone in the other.
Yes, after I call you out for saying I or JADBF said something we have never said you go to this.....lmfao.
I think its yourself you should state this to. It is you who chose to put words in others mouths, which is the sure sign of deep end and running out of gas.
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@jadbf said:
Well the difference we have is if "Anderson is the ANSWER for this year". I don't necessarily agree with that. Common sense is not very common.I believe it doesn't matter which QB you play. Do you know anything about football? No seriously....
They both suck, we'll lose more games than we win no matter who is at QB. DA MIGHT win one or two more games this year than Quinn would have. Then its a no brainer, glad we agree.
But to me, that's "polishing a turd" to steal someone elses line here. Or we could polish a bigger turd. You choice.
As far as going back through the garbage. I agree, it's tough looking back though all the garbage DA put up in his 27 starts. I'm sorry that was tough for you. Nope you definitely missed that one. What I was saying is you go through all of this garbage on this thread before you post again. It would help
BUt if you want to keep pimping his stats to show he's the "answer" And that is exactly why I said go back through this mess, it might help you because I've said nothing of the sort.
I'd have to really ask. What exactly is the question? Which QB sucks least? Wow I don't really need to answer that one. That was never the question but if you are asking it is Quinn.
This has been fun......
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@jadbf said:
I'm glad you enjoyed defending one terrible QB over another. I'm glad sucking is acceptable to you as long as its more exciting that the other sucking. Keep it up and Lums might invite you to his and Stans' reach around party with DA.There you go again being dumb. I think that I have seen you post before and I thought you were good. What happend?
You have to step up your game a little errrr alot. The old twist the words and putting me in DA fag category is for the chumps of this board. You are better than that espeacially if you actually speak the truth to what I am trying to say.
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Masters,
I really think you are going off the deep end. You started strong and stayed strong and then you started running out of gas and now you are sitting on the side of the road with a gas can in one hand and a cell phone in the other.
Yes, after I call you out for saying I or JADBF said something we have never said you go to this.....lmfao.
I think its yourself you should state this to. It is you who chose to put words in others mouths, which is the sure sign of deep end and running out of gas.
Masters said:
Yes, after I call you out for saying I or JADBF said something we have never said you go to this.....lmfao.
I think its yourself you should state this to. It is you who chose to put words in others mouths, which is the sure sign of deep end and running out of gas.
Ok I will play. Be back in 19 hours after going through all of this.
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@danamal said:
The bright side for DA was he got a fat contract,You sound like Marvin Lewis
Bengals coach Marvin Lewis didn't sound blown away by Anderson's career-high five-touchdown performance two Septembers ago.
''I think that day led him to a big contract and being able to stay in the starting job,'' Lewis said on a conference call Wednesday. ''We were one interception from him probably not being in that job. But we didn't make the plays, they did and they went on to win the football game. A lot has passed since then.''
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Masters,
I really think you are going off the deep end. You started strong and stayed strong and then you started running out of gas and now you are sitting on the side of the road with a gas can in one hand and a cell phone in the other.
Yes, after I call you out for saying I or JADBF said something we have never said you go to this.....lmfao.
I think its yourself you should state this to. It is you who chose to put words in others mouths, which is the sure sign of deep end and running out of gas.
Masters said:
Yes, after I call you out for saying I or JADBF said something we have never said you go to this.....lmfao.
I think its yourself you should state this to. It is you who chose to put words in others mouths, which is the sure sign of deep end and running out of gas.
"So forgive some of us if we have a hard time believing DA is going to have some miraculous divine intervention from God and become something he hasn't shown in 27 starts." Nothing in 27 starts? What do you call that there Masters?
" it's tough looking back though all the garbage DA put up in his 27 starts " Again He did not put up garbage in 27 starts.
And then a whole bunch of saying he did nothing without saying he has done nothing.
But will agree that it was not so much you as the other guy.
But anyhow I think you and I are saying alot of the same things in different words and I think you and I have different opinions and also you have made no sense on a couple things but all in all you almost get it.
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Masters said:
Yes, after I call you out for saying I or JADBF said something we have never said you go to this.....lmfao.
I think its yourself you should state this to. It is you who chose to put words in others mouths, which is the sure sign of deep end and running out of gas.
"So forgive some of us if we have a hard time believing DA is going to have some miraculous divine intervention from God and become something he hasn't shown in 27 starts." Nothing in 27 starts? What do you call that there Masters?
" it's tough looking back though all the garbage DA put up in his 27 starts " Again He did not put up garbage in 27 starts.
And then a whole bunch of saying he did nothing without saying he has done nothing.
But will agree that it was not so much you as the other guy.
But anyhow I think you and I are saying alot of the same things in different words and I think you and I have different opinions and also you have made no sense on a couple things but all in all you almost get it.
"So forgive some of us if we have a hard time believing DA is going to have some miraculous divine intervention from God and become something he hasn't shown in 27 starts." Nothing in 27 starts? What do you call that there Masters?
" it's tough looking back though all the garbage DA put up in his 27 starts " Again He did not put up garbage in 27 starts.
And then a whole bunch of saying he did nothing without saying he has done nothing.
But will agree that it was not so much you as the other guy.
But anyhow I think you and I are saying alot of the same things in different words and I think you and I have different opinions and also you have made no sense on a couple things but all in all you almost get it.
I'd call the first one your lack of reading comprehension. It didn't even say the word nothing, imply nothing or elude to nothing. It simpley says it's hard to believe DA will become comthign he hasn't shown in his 27 starts (you know, only playing well against bad teams, stupid turnovers, different guy each week/quarter, etc.). Quit trying to read between the lines, there is nothing there.
I'd call the second one you missing what was meant by that (i.e. the bad throws and choices that continued through all those starts, the up and down, etc.).
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"My point is no one can actaully say either QB is better" I call bullshit..... If you can not see then again you are blind.....
"I want better for the Browns than a few meaningless wins." And please tell me what that is??? To see if Brady is the real deal? PLEEAAASEE
"This is freaking Holcomb all over again." I think Holcomb was better than both.
It's 6 starts and 3 with 1 weapon on offense. Quinn may ultimately not working out in the NFL at QB, but there isn't enough evidence of that to make a generalization like that. You can call all the BS you want and say I am blind. But that doesn't make it a reality. While they may be wrong too, I am can pull a lot of comments from people in and around the NFL who will disagree w/ your statement. While you will be hard pressed to find one NFL mind that shares your statement. So where actually is the BS?
No, for CLE to have HC who sticks w/ a plan, for CLE to actually not have a predicatable offense, for them not to keep going back to a well that has to date shown to not be the answer, to not go after a couple of meaningless wins for the sake of it, etc.
You keep making it about Quinn, not I. My point is on DA and the notion that after watching him come in and throw 3 terible picks in that could have been 5 in 2 QTRs (the guy with those 27 starts of experience and 5 of which are agaisnt BALT) last week gives any confidence that he will do any better than Quinn has done so far.
Masters said:
It's 6 starts and 3 with 1 weapon on offense. Quinn may ultimately not working out in the NFL at QB, but there isn't enough evidence of that to make a generalization like that. You can call all the BS you want and say I am blind. But that doesn't make it a reality. While they may be wrong too, I am can pull a lot of comments from people in and around the NFL who will disagree w/ your statement. While you will be hard pressed to find one NFL mind that shares your statement. So where actually is the BS? The BS is when you said nobody can say who the better QB is. Also I dont buy the "only 1 weapon on offense" deal. That line is for suckers. Are there better weapons? Sure but there are other weapons on offense Quinn failed to get them the ball when they were open.No, for CLE to have HC who sticks w/ a plan, for CLE to actually not have a predicatable offense, for them not to keep going back to a well that has to date shown to not be the answer, to not go after a couple of meaningless wins for the sake of it, etc. So what does this have to do with Quinn or Anderson?
You keep making it about Quinn, not I. My point is on DA and the notion that after watching him come in and throw 3 terible picks in that could have been 5 in 2 QTRs (the guy with those 27 starts of experience and 5 of which are agaisnt BALT) last week gives any confidence that he will do any better than Quinn has done so far. Its not hard to do better than Quinn has. Throwing the ball and getting a first down is better than Quinn.
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@danamal said:
As a fan of the BrownsHow anyone can look at the 2007 season as anything less than a failure by DA is a silly argument.
Look at the stats for both the arizona game and the must win cinci game,he blew it not once but twice not the team but he single handedly lost both games with his poor decision making 4 picks alone in the cinci game with two being back to back with less than two minutes to go in the first half.
The bright side for DA was he got a fat contract,got a second hand invite to the probowl when Tom Brady decided to have surgery instead and was awarded six primetime games for the 08 season.
08 isnt even worth talking about and is indefensible and it proved that at best DA is a competant backup,although after the ratbird game last weekend even that has become a question mark.
This team has no general behind center or indentity to run with,I cant stress how huge that is.
2007 season was a failure? Maybe because we did not go to the playoffs or win the super bowl. But winning 10 games and losing 5 when we were pegged dead last is not a failure.
You brought up 2 games. Congratulations you are the man.
This team does need a general and yes we do not have one. That is not the arguement. But thanks for trying.
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@jadbf said:
Put up or shut up time. How many wins do you think Anderson "leads" this team to this year?Your answer to that will let you know if you are getting a reach around from lums anytime soon.
Me? I'm guessing 3-4.
More than we would with Quinn. Thats all I care about and all Im trying to say. We actually might get some 1st downs with Anderson in the game. I really dont think Quinn understands that you have to go 10 yards for a first down or on 3rd down you have to get past the sticks. That education is going to waste on a football field.
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Masters said:
It's 6 starts and 3 with 1 weapon on offense. Quinn may ultimately not working out in the NFL at QB, but there isn't enough evidence of that to make a generalization like that. You can call all the BS you want and say I am blind. But that doesn't make it a reality. While they may be wrong too, I am can pull a lot of comments from people in and around the NFL who will disagree w/ your statement. While you will be hard pressed to find one NFL mind that shares your statement. So where actually is the BS? The BS is when you said nobody can say who the better QB is. Also I dont buy the "only 1 weapon on offense" deal. That line is for suckers. Are there better weapons? Sure but there are other weapons on offense Quinn failed to get them the ball when they were open.No, for CLE to have HC who sticks w/ a plan, for CLE to actually not have a predicatable offense, for them not to keep going back to a well that has to date shown to not be the answer, to not go after a couple of meaningless wins for the sake of it, etc. So what does this have to do with Quinn or Anderson?
You keep making it about Quinn, not I. My point is on DA and the notion that after watching him come in and throw 3 terible picks in that could have been 5 in 2 QTRs (the guy with those 27 starts of experience and 5 of which are agaisnt BALT) last week gives any confidence that he will do any better than Quinn has done so far. Its not hard to do better than Quinn has. Throwing the ball and getting a first down is better than Quinn.
The BS is when you said nobody can say who the better QB is.
Also I dont buy the "only 1 weapon on offense" deal. That line is for suckers. Are there better weapons? Sure but there are other weapons on offense Quinn failed to get them the ball when they were open.
So what does this have to do with Quinn or Anderson?
Its not hard to do better than Quinn has. Throwing the ball and getting a first down is better than Quinn.
You can call the 1st one BS all you want. Doesn't it make it so.
As ot the weapons, what did they do when DA was slinging it in the second half of that game, or all of preseason? I'll venture a guess you don't have game film, just like the rest of us don't, so wh make a statment like "Quinn failed to get them the ball when they were open" when you have no evidence of anyone being open, aside from the one play to MoMass in the DEN game? And you want to call BS on me?
For what it has to do with Quinn or Anderson, you know the answer to that if you bother to pay attention to your own question it was in response to.
As to the last part, I could turn that around and say the same thing about DA for his recent history.
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"So forgive some of us if we have a hard time believing DA is going to have some miraculous divine intervention from God and become something he hasn't shown in 27 starts." Nothing in 27 starts? What do you call that there Masters?
" it's tough looking back though all the garbage DA put up in his 27 starts " Again He did not put up garbage in 27 starts.
And then a whole bunch of saying he did nothing without saying he has done nothing.
But will agree that it was not so much you as the other guy.
But anyhow I think you and I are saying alot of the same things in different words and I think you and I have different opinions and also you have made no sense on a couple things but all in all you almost get it.
I'd call the first one your lack of reading comprehension. It didn't even say the word nothing, imply nothing or elude to nothing. It simpley says it's hard to believe DA will become comthign he hasn't shown in his 27 starts (you know, only playing well against bad teams, stupid turnovers, different guy each week/quarter, etc.). Quit trying to read between the lines, there is nothing there.
I'd call the second one you missing what was meant by that (i.e. the bad throws and choices that continued through all those starts, the up and down, etc.).
Masters said:
I'd call the first one your lack of reading comprehension. It didn't even say the word nothing, imply nothing or elude to nothing. It simpley says it's hard to believe DA will become comthign he hasn't shown in his 27 starts (you know, only playing well against bad teams, stupid turnovers, different guy each week/quarter, etc.). Quit trying to read between the lines, there is nothing there.I'd call the second one you missing what was meant by that (i.e. the bad throws and choices that continued through all those starts, the up and down, etc.).
Why cant you get the easiest things?
"he hasn't shown in his 27 starts"
That is bullshit Masters. He has had good games if its against bad teams good teams whatever. That is what you wanted me to dig up and now that I did you want to call renig? LMAO
Same thing on the 2nd one.
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Masters said:
I'd call the first one your lack of reading comprehension. It didn't even say the word nothing, imply nothing or elude to nothing. It simpley says it's hard to believe DA will become comthign he hasn't shown in his 27 starts (you know, only playing well against bad teams, stupid turnovers, different guy each week/quarter, etc.). Quit trying to read between the lines, there is nothing there.I'd call the second one you missing what was meant by that (i.e. the bad throws and choices that continued through all those starts, the up and down, etc.).
Why cant you get the easiest things?
"he hasn't shown in his 27 starts"
That is bullshit Masters. He has had good games if its against bad teams good teams whatever. That is what you wanted me to dig up and now that I did you want to call renig? LMAO
Same thing on the 2nd one.
Why cant you get the easiest things?
"he hasn't shown in his 27 starts"
That is bullshit Masters. He has had good games if its against bad teams good teams whatever. That is what you wanted me to dig up and now that I did you want to call renig? LMAO
Same thing on the 2nd one.
LMFAO..... It is you who can't get the easiest thing.
The quote you pulled is "So forgive some of us if we have a hard time believing DA is going to have some miraculous divine intervention from God and become something he hasn't shown in 27 starts." (way to shorten it even more in a poor attempt to change the contect). In the context of the post you decide to lift that line from is exactly what I stated. DA has shown no growth, consistency, or reason to believe he will ever be more than what he is.
I said show me where I or JADBF has said DA had done nothing, as you so claimed. You have failed epically on that pal.
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@jadbf said:
I think the quote is quite clear myself. It's not saying he's done nothing, it's saying he hasn't changed and isn't likely to. And that what he has done isn't good enough.But hey, not all of us comprehend things as quickly as others.
Yep I be dumb.
When you say he has done nothing or has put up garbage in 27 starts ummmm thats what I think you mean. Not something else. And in another post you said he did decent against terrible teams. Uhhh thats also what I thought you meant. I thought you say what you mean and mean what you say? My bad.
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@jadbf said:
I think the quote is quite clear myself. It's not saying he's done nothing, it's saying he hasn't changed and isn't likely to. And that what he has done isn't good enough.But hey, not all of us comprehend things as quickly as others.
Yep I be dumb.
When you say he has done nothing or has put up garbage in 27 starts ummmm thats what I think you mean. Not something else. And in another post you said he did decent against terrible teams. Uhhh thats also what I thought you meant. I thought you say what you mean and mean what you say? My bad.
Yep I be dumb.
When you say he has done nothing or has put up garbage in 27 starts ummmm thats what I think you mean. Not something else. And in another post you said he did decent against terrible teams. Uhhh thats also what I thought you meant. I thought you say what you mean and mean what you say? My bad.
He's never said DA "has done nothing".
You are deciding to take the garbage in 27 starts out of context. Twist it how you want, but the meaning wasn't that everything DA did through all 27 starts was garbage.
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@jadbf said:
Way to dodge and not predict, I thought you had some balls on you.which brings me back to
Whoaa you lost me on that one? Dodge what? Sorry I be dumb..
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Yep I be dumb.
When you say he has done nothing or has put up garbage in 27 starts ummmm thats what I think you mean. Not something else. And in another post you said he did decent against terrible teams. Uhhh thats also what I thought you meant. I thought you say what you mean and mean what you say? My bad.
He's never said DA "has done nothing".
You are deciding to take the garbage in 27 starts out of context. Twist it how you want, but the meaning wasn't that everything DA did through all 27 starts was garbage.
Masters said:
He's never said DA "has done nothing".He never said DA put up garbage in 27 starts.
I swear to god after reading what you just typed I have tears running down my face from laughing. I promise.
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Masters said:
He's never said DA "has done nothing".He never said DA put up garbage in 27 starts.
I swear to god after reading what you just typed I have tears running down my face from laughing. I promise.
I swear to god after reading what you just typed I have tears running down my face from laughing. I promise.
I update the second part.....
I'll assume you are laughing at your self, since you have yet to back your claim that either of us ever said DA has done nothing.
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@jadbf said:
Predict exactly how many games you think Anderson will help this team win this year? without just answering "more than Quinn would".Oh got ya. Ummm to be honest 5 or 6. But I will go with 6. Which is better than Quinns 1 or 2
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