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  • In Conklin's six seasons with the Browns, he missed 44 of 101 possible games. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    In Conklin's six seasons with the Browns, he missed 44 of 101 possible games. 

    Aside from that, many of those that he did play in - it was at an age and injury depreciated value. This is/was a GOOD player that had a lot of bad luck on the field. Dawand Jones showed up like a Bear that just finished hibernating on a couch all offseason when he wasn't snacking between snacks (while sleeping of course).  He's the one that frustrated me the most due to the amount of talent he has wasted (very similar to Josh "Potsy" Gordon).  One has to at least LIKE this game to be a dependable/reliable player. Yeah, his injuries can also be attributed to bad luck but a lot of off season strength and conditioning is aimed at preventing via stretching and keep agonist and antagonist muscle groups within specified strength proportion.  For example, if the quads exceed the recommended 3 to 1 strength proportion to that of the hamstrings - the knee becomes vulnerable to injury. 

    There's also colliding philosophies where ballistic Olympic Lifts (that have even injured some of the best in the world competing at the Olympics or trials have suffered serious injuries doing these lifts even though they're among the best in the world at it.  Now, imagine high school football programs that could be teaching kids improper form on top of it all and it's a hot mess.  Anyway, it has been argued very successfully IMO that there is no proof any of the ballistic lifts thought to be mimicking specific blocking techniques actually carries over to the field.  Tell that to a roided up Joe Rockhead "hey Joe, I'm bleedin - I'm pissing blood man."  That's okay, doesn't hurt - does it Jimmy?"  "No."  "You're good - you got a great attitude!"   

  • @orion said:

    I agree with the title.  From Bad to Pretty Good.  But we have to wait and see them play together with any draft additions.  All and all I'm quite pleased that they've attacked the OL so heavily in FA.  (obviously they had to because they didn't have anyone - except Jones...and he's only like having half a guy since he'll be out at least half the season)

    I’d like to move Elton Jenkins to Guard, where he is a two time Pro Bowler, have Kelvin Jenkins as our #6 guy, draft a center and LTackle. Dawand Jones would be our tackle sub.
     

    I know, I know. “You want to start TWO rookies on the OLine Dutch. You sir are a silly goose!”

    It’s true. I’m the silliest of gooses.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I’d like to move Elton Jenkins to Guard, where he is a two time Pro Bowler, have Kelvin Jenkins as our #6 guy, draft a center and LTackle. Dawand Jones would be our tackle sub.
     

    I know, I know. “You want to start TWO rookies on the OLine Dutch. You sir are a silly goose!”

    It’s true. I’m the silliest of gooses.

    I have no problem starting 2 rookies if they are good.  For sure we draft 1 in the 1st round, then a center or guard type in the 3rd.  I doubt 2 would be starting opening day, but by mid season I could see.

    I think we are about done with FA signings.  Now we have the draft where we will probably draft 2 more OL players, then we have post June cuts and camp cuts up until the season.

  • @orion said:

    Maybe we'll draft Hetch, the center.  The biggest ass in the draft. 🙂

    A big ass is an asset in sports. I’m serious. It’s a center of gravity thing.

    Even for major league pitchers. Bartolo Colon?

    @ibleedbrown said:

    A big ass is an asset in sports. I’m serious. It’s a center of gravity thing.

    Even for major league pitchers. Bartolo Colon?

    That's funny!  Intentional or not!   Big ass.  Colon.   LOL   

  • @dutch-oven said:

    In Conklin's six seasons with the Browns, he missed 44 of 101 possible games. 

    That's something I'd expect out of a beat up RB, not an OL. And how many has Jones missed so far?

    @texasag1969 said:

    That's something I'd expect out of a beat up RB, not an OL. And how many has Jones missed so far?

    If he shows up to the extent he doesn't have to be weighed in with Tractor Trailers down the road - it'll be a tiny victory we can all celebrate.  Ohio State has had so many great players to choose from and all the Browns do is draft guys like Soph LB Craig Powell in rd 1, WR Brian Robiskie, and Mike Hall Jr (upper rd 2 - suspended, injured, etc season 3 on-deck).  

    I knew watching Dawand Jones throw TJ Watts-hisname around like he was Raggedy Andy was too good to be true. Please prove that too good to be true feeling wrong.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    In Conklin's six seasons with the Browns, he missed 44 of 101 possible games. 

    That's something I'd expect out of a beat up RB, not an OL. And how many has Jones missed so far?

    @texasag1969 said:

    That's something I'd expect out of a beat up RB, not an OL. And how many has Jones missed so far?

    I believe he’s missed 26 games out of the possible 51 he could have played.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    That's something I'd expect out of a beat up RB, not an OL. And how many has Jones missed so far?

    I believe he’s missed 26 games out of the possible 51 he could have played.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I believe he’s missed 26 games out of the possible 51 he could have played.

    This is why we need to draft our LT.  It is one of the extra important positions in the game.  

    I'm assuming that we've spent most of our allotment of $$$ in FA so the LT will have to be drafted.   

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  • @orion said:

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    Interesting. He’s not a sexy stat guy. He had a half sack last year. 

    i sometimes wonder if other players tease a guy who only got a half sack. Hey half sack, you gonna get the other half today? 

  • @orion said:

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    Interesting. He’s not a sexy stat guy. He had a half sack last year. 

    i sometimes wonder if other players tease a guy who only got a half sack. Hey half sack, you gonna get the other half today? 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Interesting. He’s not a sexy stat guy. He had a half sack last year. 

    i sometimes wonder if other players tease a guy who only got a half sack. Hey half sack, you gonna get the other half today? 

    Having a half a sack would suck... and hurt.

    I've been drinking. This probably won't be as funny tomorrow when I read it again. 

    Edit: Great Lakes Conway's Irish Ale because St. Pat's is coming up, and I'm like 1/8th Irish or something like that, yo. 

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    Interesting. He’s not a sexy stat guy. He had a half sack last year. 

    i sometimes wonder if other players tease a guy who only got a half sack. Hey half sack, you gonna get the other half today? 

    Having a half a sack would suck... and hurt.

    I've been drinking. This probably won't be as funny tomorrow when I read it again. 

    Edit: Great Lakes Conway's Irish Ale because St. Pat's is coming up, and I'm like 1/8th Irish or something like that, yo. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Edit: Great Lakes Conway's Irish Ale because St. Pat's is coming up, and I'm like 1/8th Irish or something like that, yo. 

    No wonder you're a Browns fan. Ye great granma was foolin' around with the Brownie's Irish elf way back in the day. He got around cause I'm 1/8 Irish as well laddie.??‍♂️

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    Interesting. He’s not a sexy stat guy. He had a half sack last year. 

    i sometimes wonder if other players tease a guy who only got a half sack. Hey half sack, you gonna get the other half today? 

    Having a half a sack would suck... and hurt.

    I've been drinking. This probably won't be as funny tomorrow when I read it again. 

    Edit: Great Lakes Conway's Irish Ale because St. Pat's is coming up, and I'm like 1/8th Irish or something like that, yo. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm like 1/8th Irish

    I'm 100% Portagee...but I married a Murphy...so I've got the whole Murphy's Law thing goin'.  🙂  

  • Tommy O' Brian scored 3 times in Irelands rugby match vs Scotland  today

  • sydS syd

    he has a high grade in run blocking, pass protection ? meh

    @syd said:

    he has a high grade in run blocking, pass protection ? meh

     Not sure what the grades are, but I'm 115 into the 525 pass pro snaps Zion took in the 2025 season.

     My biggest issue with his pass pro has been his short set off ball action and then the timing/pass offs on the popular tex stunts and T-T that work his side of the line.  His eyes & mentals, to be short about it. 

     Week 1 he did a good job minimizing Chris Jones when he got the draw.  I see the potential... he's also very fluid in his pulls when LAC went power. 

     I'm usually not for taking players that have struggles to grasp the mental side.  But, so far, when Zion is locked in, he has some really nice reps to build off of. 

  • love this guy, c'mon now

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    Browns have agreed to terms with former Lions and Jaguars safety and special teamer Daniel Thomas, per source
  • Four additions...

    https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/article/cleveland-browns-free-agency-aj-epenesa-daniel-thomas-julian-okwara-tylan-wallace-278187392/

    The Cleveland Browns are signing defensive end A.J. Epenesa as well as safety Daniel Thomas and wide receiver Tylan Wallace, plus re-signing defensive end Julian Okwara.

  • Four additions...

    https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/article/cleveland-browns-free-agency-aj-epenesa-daniel-thomas-julian-okwara-tylan-wallace-278187392/

    The Cleveland Browns are signing defensive end A.J. Epenesa as well as safety Daniel Thomas and wide receiver Tylan Wallace, plus re-signing defensive end Julian Okwara.

    @gumby73 said:

    Four additions...

    https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/article/cleveland-browns-free-agency-aj-epenesa-daniel-thomas-julian-okwara-tylan-wallace-278187392/

    The Cleveland Browns are signing defensive end A.J. Epenesa as well as safety Daniel Thomas and wide receiver Tylan Wallace, plus re-signing defensive end Julian Okwara.

    Epenesa might turn out to be a quality pickup.

    Apparently the Bills had him slim down and his production dropped. Beef him back up. It's a low=risk acquisition.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Four additions...

    https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/article/cleveland-browns-free-agency-aj-epenesa-daniel-thomas-julian-okwara-tylan-wallace-278187392/

    The Cleveland Browns are signing defensive end A.J. Epenesa as well as safety Daniel Thomas and wide receiver Tylan Wallace, plus re-signing defensive end Julian Okwara.

    Epenesa might turn out to be a quality pickup.

    Apparently the Bills had him slim down and his production dropped. Beef him back up. It's a low=risk acquisition.

    @bob806 said:

    Epenesa might turn out to be a quality pickup.

    Apparently the Bills had him slim down and his production dropped. Beef him back up. It's a low=risk acquisition.

    Nice!  This is a 2nd round talent; and he's still only 27 years old.

  • sydS syd

    love this guy, c'mon now

    @syd said:

    love this guy, c'mon now

    Glad to see the Browns brought him here to fill a very important role here.