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  • I'm going to say this again, if we walked away tonight and just destroyed the infrastructure we built (Kharg) I would be more than satisfied.  I don't care who needs it, we can't be undermined by it.  Unless Iran wants to send it's Unleaded Generation to the negotiation table.

    I think over the next couple of decades it's become quite obvious the world's demographics are going to age out.  Production will slow, as will consumption, and poverty will set in.  There is no economic policy correction for this and even if there was only certain economies could make it work.  Regimes like Iran will be the first to stall out and nothing America will do to them now will compare to what is going to be their fate, especially with the government they have in power now.  Unfortunately, it will be self inflicted and it will be brutal.

    We are self sufficient here on the essentials and we will even feel it.  Iran's allies (China, Russia, and now we know for sure Europe) won't be far behind them because these are the countries with the worst demographic issues and lowest domestic consumption.  You're already noticing it you just don't recognize it yet.  If you don't see the controlled collapse the US, Russia, and China are trying to plan for regionally and the collapse they're trying to do to each other, I don't know what to say to you.

    Just know, outside of nuclear annihilation, there will be no one capable of rebuilding any global economic system again except for us.  There will be no allies with deep pockets to send aid and there will be very little relief.  Iran is fucked now or later because we have all the oil we need under our feet.  You can start whatever movement you want, but the elites holding the bag (the real tax base) want nothing to do with them.  

    @htownbrown said:

    I'm going to say this again, if we walked away tonight and just destroyed the infrastructure we built (Kharg) I would be more than satisfied.  I don't care who needs it, we can't be undermined by it.  Unless Iran wants to send it's Unleaded Generation to the negotiation table.

    I think over the next couple of decades it's become quite obvious the world's demographics are going to age out.  Production will slow, as will consumption, and poverty will set in.  There is no economic policy correction for this and even if there was only certain economies could make it work.  Regimes like Iran will be the first to stall out and nothing America will do to them now will compare to what is going to be their fate, especially with the government they have in power now.  Unfortunately, it will be self inflicted and it will be brutal.

    We are self sufficient here on the essentials and we will even feel it.  Iran's allies (China, Russia, and now we know for sure Europe) won't be far behind them because these are the countries with the worst demographic issues and lowest domestic consumption.  You're already noticing it you just don't recognize it yet.  If you don't see the controlled collapse the US, Russia, and China are trying to plan for regionally and the collapse they're trying to do to each other, I don't know what to say to you.

    Just know, outside of nuclear annihilation, there will be no one capable of rebuilding any global economic system again except for us.  There will be no allies with deep pockets to send aid and there will be very little relief.  Iran is fucked now or later because we have all the oil we need under our feet.  You can start whatever movement you want, but the elites holding the bag (the real tax base) want nothing to do with them.  

    Are your saying current/future generations can't handle what previous generations have built or are you saying that the system previous generations have built is inherently unsustainable?

  • I'm going to say this again, if we walked away tonight and just destroyed the infrastructure we built (Kharg) I would be more than satisfied.  I don't care who needs it, we can't be undermined by it.  Unless Iran wants to send it's Unleaded Generation to the negotiation table.

    I think over the next couple of decades it's become quite obvious the world's demographics are going to age out.  Production will slow, as will consumption, and poverty will set in.  There is no economic policy correction for this and even if there was only certain economies could make it work.  Regimes like Iran will be the first to stall out and nothing America will do to them now will compare to what is going to be their fate, especially with the government they have in power now.  Unfortunately, it will be self inflicted and it will be brutal.

    We are self sufficient here on the essentials and we will even feel it.  Iran's allies (China, Russia, and now we know for sure Europe) won't be far behind them because these are the countries with the worst demographic issues and lowest domestic consumption.  You're already noticing it you just don't recognize it yet.  If you don't see the controlled collapse the US, Russia, and China are trying to plan for regionally and the collapse they're trying to do to each other, I don't know what to say to you.

    Just know, outside of nuclear annihilation, there will be no one capable of rebuilding any global economic system again except for us.  There will be no allies with deep pockets to send aid and there will be very little relief.  Iran is fucked now or later because we have all the oil we need under our feet.  You can start whatever movement you want, but the elites holding the bag (the real tax base) want nothing to do with them.  

    @htownbrown said:

    I'm going to say this again, if we walked away tonight and just destroyed the infrastructure we built (Kharg) I would be more than satisfied.  I don't care who needs it, we can't be undermined by it.  Unless Iran wants to send it's Unleaded Generation to the negotiation table.

    I think over the next couple of decades it's become quite obvious the world's demographics are going to age out.  Production will slow, as will consumption, and poverty will set in.  There is no economic policy correction for this and even if there was only certain economies could make it work.  Regimes like Iran will be the first to stall out and nothing America will do to them now will compare to what is going to be their fate, especially with the government they have in power now.  Unfortunately, it will be self inflicted and it will be brutal.

    We are self sufficient here on the essentials and we will even feel it.  Iran's allies (China, Russia, and now we know for sure Europe) won't be far behind them because these are the countries with the worst demographic issues and lowest domestic consumption.  You're already noticing it you just don't recognize it yet.  If you don't see the controlled collapse the US, Russia, and China are trying to plan for regionally and the collapse they're trying to do to each other, I don't know what to say to you.

    Just know, outside of nuclear annihilation, there will be no one capable of rebuilding any global economic system again except for us.  There will be no allies with deep pockets to send aid and there will be very little relief.  Iran is fucked now or later because we have all the oil we need under our feet.  You can start whatever movement you want, but the elites holding the bag (the real tax base) want nothing to do with them.  

    I dig your next level thinking, but l don’t like the idea of mucking up the works for the rest of the world. 

    I’m not a fan of us being the world police either, but we played a big part in putting ourselves in that position and we have to accept that. Look at us now. It’s ugly af.

    You got a head on your shoulders man. I thought l was a step ahead of things but you might be 2 or 3 steps ahead. Are you AI driven? What’s going on here?

  • @fy56 said:

    LOL…That Donald, he says the darnedest things!

    That's about all you got. Anything truly egregious is just "a joke" or "rhetorical". You'll draw a line in the sand, he'll step over it, and you'll draw a new one. You people will continue to pull out the mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance needed to praise your special little boy. As the rest of us watch an old man clearly declining mentally in front of the world. 

    But again, you are trump. Trump is you. It makes sense. 

    @mld-woody said:

    That's about all you got. Anything truly egregious is just "a joke" or "rhetorical". You'll draw a line in the sand, he'll step over it, and you'll draw a new one. You people will continue to pull out the mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance needed to praise your special little boy. As the rest of us watch an old man clearly declining mentally in front of the world. 

    But again, you are trump. Trump is you. It makes sense. 

    Uh no. I’ve said plenty more. Try and keep up.

    I knew that would touch a nerve with you.. LOL

  • @calfoxwc said:

    NO he did NOT. You leftie birdbrains can deliberately define words all you want, but the reality is, you are just making asses of yourselves.

    Threatening to bomb the power plants and bridges of another county?

    "A whole civilization will die tonight"

    You're really going to defend those? I mean, of course you are, but God damn that's nuts

    @mld-woody said:

    Threatening to bomb the power plants and bridges of another county?

    "A whole civilization will die tonight"

    You're really going to defend those? I mean, of course you are, but God damn that's nuts

    So this time he isn’t lying?

    It’s comical how you people take what he says literally when it works for you, but then call him a liar the rest of the time.

    I take what he says with a grain of salt. Always have. I wait for the actual results.

    You should do the same, but TDS shuts that sort of reasoning down.

    You’re the one that’s nuts if you really believe that he intends to wipe out an entire civilization.

  • @fy56 said:

    LOL…That Donald, he says the darnedest things!

    That's about all you got. Anything truly egregious is just "a joke" or "rhetorical". You'll draw a line in the sand, he'll step over it, and you'll draw a new one. You people will continue to pull out the mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance needed to praise your special little boy. As the rest of us watch an old man clearly declining mentally in front of the world. 

    But again, you are trump. Trump is you. It makes sense. 

    @mld-woody said:

    That's about all you got. Anything truly egregious is just "a joke" or "rhetorical". You'll draw a line in the sand, he'll step over it, and you'll draw a new one. You people will continue to pull out the mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance needed to praise your special little boy. As the rest of us watch an old man clearly declining mentally in front of the world. 

    But again, you are trump. Trump is you. It makes sense. 

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  • @htownbrown said:

    I'm going to say this again, if we walked away tonight and just destroyed the infrastructure we built (Kharg) I would be more than satisfied.  I don't care who needs it, we can't be undermined by it.  Unless Iran wants to send it's Unleaded Generation to the negotiation table.

    I think over the next couple of decades it's become quite obvious the world's demographics are going to age out.  Production will slow, as will consumption, and poverty will set in.  There is no economic policy correction for this and even if there was only certain economies could make it work.  Regimes like Iran will be the first to stall out and nothing America will do to them now will compare to what is going to be their fate, especially with the government they have in power now.  Unfortunately, it will be self inflicted and it will be brutal.

    We are self sufficient here on the essentials and we will even feel it.  Iran's allies (China, Russia, and now we know for sure Europe) won't be far behind them because these are the countries with the worst demographic issues and lowest domestic consumption.  You're already noticing it you just don't recognize it yet.  If you don't see the controlled collapse the US, Russia, and China are trying to plan for regionally and the collapse they're trying to do to each other, I don't know what to say to you.

    Just know, outside of nuclear annihilation, there will be no one capable of rebuilding any global economic system again except for us.  There will be no allies with deep pockets to send aid and there will be very little relief.  Iran is fucked now or later because we have all the oil we need under our feet.  You can start whatever movement you want, but the elites holding the bag (the real tax base) want nothing to do with them.  

    I dig your next level thinking, but l don’t like the idea of mucking up the works for the rest of the world. 

    I’m not a fan of us being the world police either, but we played a big part in putting ourselves in that position and we have to accept that. Look at us now. It’s ugly af.

    You got a head on your shoulders man. I thought l was a step ahead of things but you might be 2 or 3 steps ahead. Are you AI driven? What’s going on here?

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I dig your next level thinking, but l don’t like the idea of mucking up the works for the rest of the world. 

    I’m not a fan of us being the world police either, but we played a big part in putting ourselves in that position and we have to accept that. Look at us now. It’s ugly af.

    You got a head on your shoulders man. I thought l was a step ahead of things but you might be 2 or 3 steps ahead. Are you AI driven? What’s going on here?

    It sounds as though htownbrown is thinking along these lines.

    A very interesting scenario this Brit presents…the ultimate aim of self sufficiency over being the worlds police.

    I approve of his message.

  • FYI Pecker, I know this is fake.

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  • @ibleedbrown said:

    I dig your next level thinking, but l don’t like the idea of mucking up the works for the rest of the world. 

    I’m not a fan of us being the world police either, but we played a big part in putting ourselves in that position and we have to accept that. Look at us now. It’s ugly af.

    You got a head on your shoulders man. I thought l was a step ahead of things but you might be 2 or 3 steps ahead. Are you AI driven? What’s going on here?

    It sounds as though htownbrown is thinking along these lines.

    A very interesting scenario this Brit presents…the ultimate aim of self sufficiency over being the worlds police.

    I approve of his message.

    @fy56 said:

    It sounds as though htownbrown is thinking along these lines.

    A very interesting scenario this Brit presents…the ultimate aim of self sufficiency over being the worlds police.

    I approve of his message.

    Thank you, that was helpful. I have no doubt Trump is a big picture thinker and I’ve given kudos before in that regard. His methodology wigs me out at times, and probably a lot of other people. TDS is a thing for a reason. Wanting peace, calm and prosperity isn’t a bad thing.

    I have to barf in my mouth a little bit to say it, but he probably is thus far the most significant President of my lifetime. 

    I like the UK. I like Europe in general, and l like the idea of allies. I can’t help but hope there’s a place for them in whatever new world order we’re cooking up.

  • It’s probaly gonna take a nuke to really make a difference in Iran.

    Japan was stubborn at

    first also.

  • It’s probaly gonna take a nuke to really make a difference in Iran.

    Japan was stubborn at

    first also.

    @hammertime said:

    It’s probaly gonna take a nuke to really make a difference in Iran.

    Japan was stubborn at

    first also.

    Can you blame them? Put yourself in their shoes/sandals. I’d like to think we’d fight like hell if the tables were turned.

  • @hammertime said:

    It’s probaly gonna take a nuke to really make a difference in Iran.

    Japan was stubborn at

    first also.

    Can you blame them? Put yourself in their shoes/sandals. I’d like to think we’d fight like hell if the tables were turned.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Can you blame them? Put yourself in their shoes/sandals. I’d like to think we’d fight like hell if the tables were turned.

    All trolling aside… it’s been about 47 years under The current regime in Iran.

    idealogically speaking it seriously might take a nuke to destroy that civilization that knows only death to America.

  • I think I’m gonna piss Woody off.

  • @fy56 said:

    I think I’m gonna piss Woody off.

    No, Pecker swears up and down that he’s not a Democrat.

    Yet, all he does is bash Trump…which is all Libtards do these days. ?

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  • @ibleedbrown said:

    Can you blame them? Put yourself in their shoes/sandals. I’d like to think we’d fight like hell if the tables were turned.

    All trolling aside… it’s been about 47 years under The current regime in Iran.

    idealogically speaking it seriously might take a nuke to destroy that civilization that knows only death to America.

    @hammertime said:

    All trolling aside… it’s been about 47 years under The current regime in Iran.

    idealogically speaking it seriously might take a nuke to destroy that civilization that knows only death to America.

    Neither one of us is trolling. Your math is probably right. 

    Think about what you’re talking about man. Last resort shit. You’re supposed to be a Christian and you’re wanting to Nuke people? 

    We’re going to tussle dude. Nation of Islam isn’t located only Iran if that’s your concern. Nuking Iran is only going to intensify the nation of Islam.

    Plenty of people want to kill America. We’re the Yankees of the world. Hopefully you get the baseball reference.

    Roughly half the world is a fan, and the other half hates our guts. Get used to it.

  • @htownbrown said:

    I'm going to say this again, if we walked away tonight and just destroyed the infrastructure we built (Kharg) I would be more than satisfied.  I don't care who needs it, we can't be undermined by it.  Unless Iran wants to send it's Unleaded Generation to the negotiation table.

    I think over the next couple of decades it's become quite obvious the world's demographics are going to age out.  Production will slow, as will consumption, and poverty will set in.  There is no economic policy correction for this and even if there was only certain economies could make it work.  Regimes like Iran will be the first to stall out and nothing America will do to them now will compare to what is going to be their fate, especially with the government they have in power now.  Unfortunately, it will be self inflicted and it will be brutal.

    We are self sufficient here on the essentials and we will even feel it.  Iran's allies (China, Russia, and now we know for sure Europe) won't be far behind them because these are the countries with the worst demographic issues and lowest domestic consumption.  You're already noticing it you just don't recognize it yet.  If you don't see the controlled collapse the US, Russia, and China are trying to plan for regionally and the collapse they're trying to do to each other, I don't know what to say to you.

    Just know, outside of nuclear annihilation, there will be no one capable of rebuilding any global economic system again except for us.  There will be no allies with deep pockets to send aid and there will be very little relief.  Iran is fucked now or later because we have all the oil we need under our feet.  You can start whatever movement you want, but the elites holding the bag (the real tax base) want nothing to do with them.  

    I dig your next level thinking, but l don’t like the idea of mucking up the works for the rest of the world. 

    I’m not a fan of us being the world police either, but we played a big part in putting ourselves in that position and we have to accept that. Look at us now. It’s ugly af.

    You got a head on your shoulders man. I thought l was a step ahead of things but you might be 2 or 3 steps ahead. Are you AI driven? What’s going on here?

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I dig your next level thinking, but l don’t like the idea of mucking up the works for the rest of the world. 

    I’m not a fan of us being the world police either, but we played a big part in putting ourselves in that position and we have to accept that. Look at us now. It’s ugly af.

    You got a head on your shoulders man. I thought l was a step ahead of things but you might be 2 or 3 steps ahead. Are you AI driven? What’s going on here?

    I definitely don't have that kind of brain power.  I think Vapor has a similar outward looking approach and he may get some details right that I would not.  There are a lot of things that happen, especially economically, that are beyond our control, but very predictable.  Like:

    download(2).png.ea5328b3ab8d59a73e61684e77fbf8bf.png

    Where is the consumption coming from in 20 years?  Where is your labor force?  Where are your reproduction aged women?  If I account for immigration, how many of these people are even German?  

    Unless these people want to eat 6 meals a day, the restaurant industry will downsize.  Unless these people want to drive to the same place 2x a day, the auto industry will tighten, the petrol demand will lessen, the insurance markets will shrink, the toll booths will see less traffic, yada yada yada.  This will hit every market they have. If you had money to invest why would it be here? 

    The closest thing to relate it to here is when auto manufactoring was pulled from the midwest and sent overseas.  That was a choice, this isn't a choice.  Germany is probably the most extreme sample of this demographic in Europe, but everybody else is not far behind.  

    download(3).png.ce32166da97cab3f08b100e14830768c.png

    Even if all of Europe paid 5% for defense, the actual dollar value of that 5% will continue to go down.  We will only pay more the longer this goes on.  

    Now look at the world's factory China:

    download(4).png.33f97615b6a8fbdac60c2e6c7163fa0e.png

    There is no way to adjust for this.  All you can do is start the transition now.  Trump is kicking the legs out from China with every move he makes, for better or worse.  We were always going to need to diversify manufacturing soon.  In 20 years, China will lose 400-500 million people.

    In an environment like this, places like Iran stands no chance.  Their demographics don't  even matter.  They can't grow food, there short on water, and the world won't be nearly as needy for oil.  It's going to be brutal and they don't even give anyone a reason to care.

  • Catching up here. 

    • Impressive rescue of the F-15 crew without any casualties again demonstrates that US military capability is king when it comes to tactical engagements
    • This gave Trump a much needed win and some political capital to begin disengagement from this quagmire
    • (The failing) NYT is reporting that a bunch of Trump's cabinet threw Israel's intel to pull us into the war as bogus. Rubio allegedly says it was "farcical." Hope it's true, but it's from an unnamed source.
    • Pakistan mediated a ceasefire between the US and Iran, causing anger in Israel, as they were apparently not involved in these talks. 
    • Israel responds by bombing downtown Beirut, Lebanon.
    • Iran responds by launching missiles at Gulf allies and closing the strait back down. 
    • Israel opens back up the corruption trial of Netanyahu that got paused after Oct 7 attacks
    • Oil prices dipped at the initial ceasefire news, but have jumped back up.

    And here we are. 

  • @hammertime said:

    All trolling aside… it’s been about 47 years under The current regime in Iran.

    idealogically speaking it seriously might take a nuke to destroy that civilization that knows only death to America.

    Neither one of us is trolling. Your math is probably right. 

    Think about what you’re talking about man. Last resort shit. You’re supposed to be a Christian and you’re wanting to Nuke people? 

    We’re going to tussle dude. Nation of Islam isn’t located only Iran if that’s your concern. Nuking Iran is only going to intensify the nation of Islam.

    Plenty of people want to kill America. We’re the Yankees of the world. Hopefully you get the baseball reference.

    Roughly half the world is a fan, and the other half hates our guts. Get used to it.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Neither one of us is trolling. Your math is probably right. 

    Think about what you’re talking about man. Last resort shit. You’re supposed to be a Christian and you’re wanting to Nuke people? 

    We’re going to tussle dude. Nation of Islam isn’t located only Iran if that’s your concern. Nuking Iran is only going to intensify the nation of Islam.

    Plenty of people want to kill America. We’re the Yankees of the world. Hopefully you get the baseball reference.

    Roughly half the world is a fan, and the other half hates our guts. Get used to it.

    Its trolling….

    Trump has a master’s in it.

    im exhausted by all of it.

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    I dig your next level thinking, but l don’t like the idea of mucking up the works for the rest of the world. 

    I’m not a fan of us being the world police either, but we played a big part in putting ourselves in that position and we have to accept that. Look at us now. It’s ugly af.

    You got a head on your shoulders man. I thought l was a step ahead of things but you might be 2 or 3 steps ahead. Are you AI driven? What’s going on here?

    I definitely don't have that kind of brain power.  I think Vapor has a similar outward looking approach and he may get some details right that I would not.  There are a lot of things that happen, especially economically, that are beyond our control, but very predictable.  Like:

    download(2).png.ea5328b3ab8d59a73e61684e77fbf8bf.png

    Where is the consumption coming from in 20 years?  Where is your labor force?  Where are your reproduction aged women?  If I account for immigration, how many of these people are even German?  

    Unless these people want to eat 6 meals a day, the restaurant industry will downsize.  Unless these people want to drive to the same place 2x a day, the auto industry will tighten, the petrol demand will lessen, the insurance markets will shrink, the toll booths will see less traffic, yada yada yada.  This will hit every market they have. If you had money to invest why would it be here? 

    The closest thing to relate it to here is when auto manufactoring was pulled from the midwest and sent overseas.  That was a choice, this isn't a choice.  Germany is probably the most extreme sample of this demographic in Europe, but everybody else is not far behind.  

    download(3).png.ce32166da97cab3f08b100e14830768c.png

    Even if all of Europe paid 5% for defense, the actual dollar value of that 5% will continue to go down.  We will only pay more the longer this goes on.  

    Now look at the world's factory China:

    download(4).png.33f97615b6a8fbdac60c2e6c7163fa0e.png

    There is no way to adjust for this.  All you can do is start the transition now.  Trump is kicking the legs out from China with every move he makes, for better or worse.  We were always going to need to diversify manufacturing soon.  In 20 years, China will lose 400-500 million people.

    In an environment like this, places like Iran stands no chance.  Their demographics don't  even matter.  They can't grow food, there short on water, and the world won't be nearly as needy for oil.  It's going to be brutal and they don't even give anyone a reason to care.

    @htownbrown said:

    I definitely don't have that kind of brain power.  I think Vapor has a similar outward looking approach and he may get some details right that I would not.  There are a lot of things that happen, especially economically, that are beyond our control, but very predictable.  Like:

    download(2).png.ea5328b3ab8d59a73e61684e77fbf8bf.png

    Where is the consumption coming from in 20 years?  Where is your labor force?  Where are your reproduction aged women?  If I account for immigration, how many of these people are even German?  

    Unless these people want to eat 6 meals a day, the restaurant industry will downsize.  Unless these people want to drive to the same place 2x a day, the auto industry will tighten, the petrol demand will lessen, the insurance markets will shrink, the toll booths will see less traffic, yada yada yada.  This will hit every market they have. If you had money to invest why would it be here? 

    The closest thing to relate it to here is when auto manufactoring was pulled from the midwest and sent overseas.  That was a choice, this isn't a choice.  Germany is probably the most extreme sample of this demographic in Europe, but everybody else is not far behind.  

    download(3).png.ce32166da97cab3f08b100e14830768c.png

    Even if all of Europe paid 5% for defense, the actual dollar value of that 5% will continue to go down.  We will only pay more the longer this goes on.  

    Now look at the world's factory China:

    download(4).png.33f97615b6a8fbdac60c2e6c7163fa0e.png

    There is no way to adjust for this.  All you can do is start the transition now.  Trump is kicking the legs out from China with every move he makes, for better or worse.  We were always going to need to diversify manufacturing soon.  In 20 years, China will lose 400-500 million people.

    In an environment like this, places like Iran stands no chance.  Their demographics don't  even matter.  They can't grow food, there short on water, and the world won't be nearly as needy for oil.  It's going to be brutal and they don't even give anyone a reason to care.

    I DoN’t HaVe ThAt KiNdA bRaIn PoWeR… *lays heavy stats laden post*

    I actually didn’t know that China’s population was declining too. Interesting. I know they’ve been rocking the “1 kid per couple” thing for a while and they are going to have a generation or 2 that has no aunts, uncles or siblings, but they had SO many people at one point. 

    So here’s a question. I actually suspect there was a method to the madness with the whole Biden era open border thing. I think it was a manufactured population boost, and Biden as the geriatric politician was the perfect fall guy to make it happen. 

    Sure, we’ll get some riff raff in the process, plenty of that documented in these pages, but we’ll get workers and consumers in the process as well. 

    What do you think of that theory?

  • @htownbrown said:

    I definitely don't have that kind of brain power.  I think Vapor has a similar outward looking approach and he may get some details right that I would not.  There are a lot of things that happen, especially economically, that are beyond our control, but very predictable.  Like:

    download(2).png.ea5328b3ab8d59a73e61684e77fbf8bf.png

    Where is the consumption coming from in 20 years?  Where is your labor force?  Where are your reproduction aged women?  If I account for immigration, how many of these people are even German?  

    Unless these people want to eat 6 meals a day, the restaurant industry will downsize.  Unless these people want to drive to the same place 2x a day, the auto industry will tighten, the petrol demand will lessen, the insurance markets will shrink, the toll booths will see less traffic, yada yada yada.  This will hit every market they have. If you had money to invest why would it be here? 

    The closest thing to relate it to here is when auto manufactoring was pulled from the midwest and sent overseas.  That was a choice, this isn't a choice.  Germany is probably the most extreme sample of this demographic in Europe, but everybody else is not far behind.  

    download(3).png.ce32166da97cab3f08b100e14830768c.png

    Even if all of Europe paid 5% for defense, the actual dollar value of that 5% will continue to go down.  We will only pay more the longer this goes on.  

    Now look at the world's factory China:

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    There is no way to adjust for this.  All you can do is start the transition now.  Trump is kicking the legs out from China with every move he makes, for better or worse.  We were always going to need to diversify manufacturing soon.  In 20 years, China will lose 400-500 million people.

    In an environment like this, places like Iran stands no chance.  Their demographics don't  even matter.  They can't grow food, there short on water, and the world won't be nearly as needy for oil.  It's going to be brutal and they don't even give anyone a reason to care.

    I DoN’t HaVe ThAt KiNdA bRaIn PoWeR… *lays heavy stats laden post*

    I actually didn’t know that China’s population was declining too. Interesting. I know they’ve been rocking the “1 kid per couple” thing for a while and they are going to have a generation or 2 that has no aunts, uncles or siblings, but they had SO many people at one point. 

    So here’s a question. I actually suspect there was a method to the madness with the whole Biden era open border thing. I think it was a manufactured population boost, and Biden as the geriatric politician was the perfect fall guy to make it happen. 

    Sure, we’ll get some riff raff in the process, plenty of that documented in these pages, but we’ll get workers and consumers in the process as well. 

    What do you think of that theory?

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I DoN’t HaVe ThAt KiNdA bRaIn PoWeR… *lays heavy stats laden post*

    I actually didn’t know that China’s population was declining too. Interesting. I know they’ve been rocking the “1 kid per couple” thing for a while and they are going to have a generation or 2 that has no aunts, uncles or siblings, but they had SO many people at one point. 

    So here’s a question. I actually suspect there was a method to the madness with the whole Biden era open border thing. I think it was a manufactured population boost, and Biden as the geriatric politician was the perfect fall guy to make it happen. 

    Sure, we’ll get some riff raff in the process, plenty of that documented in these pages, but we’ll get workers and consumers in the process as well. 

    What do you think of that theory?

    I thought AI was going to make a lot of people lose their jobs, why do we need more people?