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  • sydS syd

    after careful thought and consideration I have come to the conclusion that The Browns deserve an A

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    @syd said:

    I have come to the conclusion that The Browns deserve an A

    ...and you're not alone.  Many draft pundits, including Kiper, agree with you.

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      @syd said:

      I have come to the conclusion that The Browns deserve an A

      ...and you're not alone.  Many draft pundits, including Kiper, agree with you.

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      @orion said:

      ...and you're not alone.  Many draft pundits, including Kiper, agree with you.

      Not only do they get an A for the draft, but they get an A for Accumulation of 2027 draft picks as well. Harvard finally showed what it an do without the baseball clown.

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        Warren is a BIG safety, and I love the pick.

        Who’s to say he couldn’t play close to the line as a LB?

        He could potentially be a replacement for JOK.

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        @canton-dawg said:

        Warren is a BIG safety, and I love the pick.

        Who’s to say he couldn’t play close to the line as a LB?

        He could potentially be a replacement for JOK.

        I am surprised he spent his entire career in Toledo, with the portal and nil money being what it is, He would probably end up in the big 10 somewhere, the way of the mac may be headed the way of the dodo

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            While building teams has to be more of a present AND future thought process, my only hope is that the Browns addressed the offensive side of the ball as much as humanly possible in the draft and FA. Last year's team had the arguably the worst OL and WR rooms in the NFL- it's much more common for bad teams rebuilding to have strong needs across both offense and defense. Not the case in Cleveland going into the offseason.

            With that being said, it's solid the Browns went offense focused with the top three picks and OL in free agency. What's compelling is that if Sanders doesn't work out (which I'm not rooting for, but fully expect to have unfold), you're going to have a much improved skill position and offensive line for a rookie QB in 2027. I believe essentially every OL on the team now is locked in through at least 2027, and if Fano is who they expect him to be you also have a cornerstone at the position.

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            Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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            @jrb12711 said:

            While building teams has to be more of a present AND future thought process, my only hope is that the Browns addressed the offensive side of the ball as much as humanly possible in the draft and FA. Last year's team had the arguably the worst OL and WR rooms in the NFL- it's much more common for bad teams rebuilding to have strong needs across both offense and defense. Not the case in Cleveland going into the offseason.

            With that being said, it's solid the Browns went offense focused with the top three picks and OL in free agency. What's compelling is that if Sanders doesn't work out (which I'm not rooting for, but fully expect to have unfold), you're going to have a much improved skill position and offensive line for a rookie QB in 2027. I believe essentially every OL on the team now is locked in through at least 2027, and if Fano is who they expect him to be you also have a cornerstone at the position.

            I was thinking about the OLine today, and only Fano do I feel confident will be here in three seasons. Three or four of the vets they have got this offseason and will start are pretty much stopgaps, on one or two year deals.

            I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again. 

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              @jrb12711 said:

              While building teams has to be more of a present AND future thought process, my only hope is that the Browns addressed the offensive side of the ball as much as humanly possible in the draft and FA. Last year's team had the arguably the worst OL and WR rooms in the NFL- it's much more common for bad teams rebuilding to have strong needs across both offense and defense. Not the case in Cleveland going into the offseason.

              With that being said, it's solid the Browns went offense focused with the top three picks and OL in free agency. What's compelling is that if Sanders doesn't work out (which I'm not rooting for, but fully expect to have unfold), you're going to have a much improved skill position and offensive line for a rookie QB in 2027. I believe essentially every OL on the team now is locked in through at least 2027, and if Fano is who they expect him to be you also have a cornerstone at the position.

              I was thinking about the OLine today, and only Fano do I feel confident will be here in three seasons. Three or four of the vets they have got this offseason and will start are pretty much stopgaps, on one or two year deals.

              I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again. 

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              @dutch-oven said:

              I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again. 

              I see  austin barber being here as a guard and Brailsford, Parker  as are center with Fano, so unless we have to give up the farm for a QB, I would not use a pick on a o lineman untill the third at best 

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                @dutch-oven said:

                I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again. 

                I see  austin barber being here as a guard and Brailsford, Parker  as are center with Fano, so unless we have to give up the farm for a QB, I would not use a pick on a o lineman untill the third at best 

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                @syd said:

                I see  austin barber being here as a guard and Brailsford, Parker  as are center with Fano, so unless we have to give up the farm for a QB, I would not use a pick on a o lineman untill the third at best 

                Barber and Brailsford are depth guys until they show something that warrants the idea that they could start some day. 

                I'm not counting on either. If it happens, fantastic. 

                The work isn't done on the OLine. With how the OLine is constructed, if we don't get ahead of it by continuing to invest in the OLine we could very well be in the same position we were going into this offseason. 

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                  @syd said:

                  I see  austin barber being here as a guard and Brailsford, Parker  as are center with Fano, so unless we have to give up the farm for a QB, I would not use a pick on a o lineman untill the third at best 

                  Barber and Brailsford are depth guys until they show something that warrants the idea that they could start some day. 

                  I'm not counting on either. If it happens, fantastic. 

                  The work isn't done on the OLine. With how the OLine is constructed, if we don't get ahead of it by continuing to invest in the OLine we could very well be in the same position we were going into this offseason. 

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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  Barber and Brailsford are depth guys until they show something that warrants the idea that they could start some day. 

                  I'm not counting on either. If it happens, fantastic. 

                  The work isn't done on the OLine. With how the OLine is constructed, if we don't get ahead of it by continuing to invest in the OLine we could very well be in the same position we were going into this offseason. 

                  same can be said of the D Line, and i believe with the fat ass we traded for and the others in F.A  and the fat ass's still on the roster, O Line should be a low priority. Next year Edge in the 1st DT in the 2nd and after that. guess we will see what shakes out, BPA ?

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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    Barber and Brailsford are depth guys until they show something that warrants the idea that they could start some day. 

                    I'm not counting on either. If it happens, fantastic. 

                    The work isn't done on the OLine. With how the OLine is constructed, if we don't get ahead of it by continuing to invest in the OLine we could very well be in the same position we were going into this offseason. 

                    same can be said of the D Line, and i believe with the fat ass we traded for and the others in F.A  and the fat ass's still on the roster, O Line should be a low priority. Next year Edge in the 1st DT in the 2nd and after that. guess we will see what shakes out, BPA ?

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                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                    @syd said:

                    same can be said of the D Line, and i believe with the fat ass we traded for and the others in F.A  and the fat ass's still on the roster, O Line should be a low priority. Next year Edge in the 1st DT in the 2nd and after that. guess we will see what shakes out, BPA ?

                    One starter on the OLine is on a one year deal, two are on two year deals, I believe the third we traded for is on a three year deal.

                    Once again, beyond Fano there's virtually no one on this roster that I feel confident will even be on the Browns in three seasons. 

                    OLine needs to be added in the draft next year too. Doesn't have to be a first rounder, or a second rounder, but it can't be an after thought. We have three fourth rounders and ten picks overall. 

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                      Browns had 50.6% of O plays incorporate motion last season.. these OL can get outside, maybe looking to increase that next season to exploit overpursuit.

                      Free stats source for this number

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                        Loved the draft esp the  Denzel Boston and Mcneill-Warren picks. Didn't study draft grades much but are they our future Mike Evans and Kyle Hamiltons? Plus was Depo's departure addition by subtraction as our drafts have dramatically improved? Yes he was here for last year's draft but did not attend the post draft presser which implies he  had little to do with it. 

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                          @jrb12711 said:

                          While building teams has to be more of a present AND future thought process, my only hope is that the Browns addressed the offensive side of the ball as much as humanly possible in the draft and FA. Last year's team had the arguably the worst OL and WR rooms in the NFL- it's much more common for bad teams rebuilding to have strong needs across both offense and defense. Not the case in Cleveland going into the offseason.

                          With that being said, it's solid the Browns went offense focused with the top three picks and OL in free agency. What's compelling is that if Sanders doesn't work out (which I'm not rooting for, but fully expect to have unfold), you're going to have a much improved skill position and offensive line for a rookie QB in 2027. I believe essentially every OL on the team now is locked in through at least 2027, and if Fano is who they expect him to be you also have a cornerstone at the position.

                          I was thinking about the OLine today, and only Fano do I feel confident will be here in three seasons. Three or four of the vets they have got this offseason and will start are pretty much stopgaps, on one or two year deals.

                          I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again. 

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                          jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by jrb12711
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                          @dutch-oven said:

                          I was thinking about the OLine today, and only Fano do I feel confident will be here in three seasons. Three or four of the vets they have got this offseason and will start are pretty much stopgaps, on one or two year deals.

                          I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again. 

                          true- I do like though how a rookie QB could, in theory, be behind a pretty well molded offensive line in 2027 assuming these guys don't all suck. It seems like everyone, to include Dawand Jones, that would be starting is under contract through 2027. Most of the guys are also young enough where they could in theory stick around for a few more years.

                          I suppose we shall see.

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                            Loved the draft esp the  Denzel Boston and Mcneill-Warren picks. Didn't study draft grades much but are they our future Mike Evans and Kyle Hamiltons? Plus was Depo's departure addition by subtraction as our drafts have dramatically improved? Yes he was here for last year's draft but did not attend the post draft presser which implies he  had little to do with it. 

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                            @mddawg said:

                            Loved the draft esp the  Denzel Boston and Mcneill-Warren picks. Didn't study draft grades much but are they our future Mike Evans and Kyle Hamiltons? Plus was Depo's departure addition by subtraction as our drafts have dramatically improved? Yes he was here for last year's draft but did not attend the post draft presser which implies he  had little to do with it. 

                            Think Nick Emmanwori Seahawks with McNeil Warren.  Boston has Drake London potential.   

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                              @dutch-oven said:

                              I was thinking about the OLine today, and only Fano do I feel confident will be here in three seasons. Three or four of the vets they have got this offseason and will start are pretty much stopgaps, on one or two year deals.

                              I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again. 

                              true- I do like though how a rookie QB could, in theory, be behind a pretty well molded offensive line in 2027 assuming these guys don't all suck. It seems like everyone, to include Dawand Jones, that would be starting is under contract through 2027. Most of the guys are also young enough where they could in theory stick around for a few more years.

                              I suppose we shall see.

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                              @jrb12711 said:

                              true- I do like though how a rookie QB could, in theory, be behind a pretty well molded offensive line in 2027 assuming these guys don't all suck. It seems like everyone, to include Dawand Jones, that would be starting is under contract through 2027. Most of the guys are also young enough where they could in theory stick around for a few more years.

                              I suppose we shall see.

                              I would like to see our starting five get a half each preseason game.   Otherwise this group is going to struggle collectively the first month of the year and they probably will anyway.  One or two pieces of the unit rebuild is very different yet a challenge than replacing the entire unit.  We could benefit early if we stay away from Pittsburgh and Baltimore until October.

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                                @syd said:

                                same can be said of the D Line, and i believe with the fat ass we traded for and the others in F.A  and the fat ass's still on the roster, O Line should be a low priority. Next year Edge in the 1st DT in the 2nd and after that. guess we will see what shakes out, BPA ?

                                One starter on the OLine is on a one year deal, two are on two year deals, I believe the third we traded for is on a three year deal.

                                Once again, beyond Fano there's virtually no one on this roster that I feel confident will even be on the Browns in three seasons. 

                                OLine needs to be added in the draft next year too. Doesn't have to be a first rounder, or a second rounder, but it can't be an after thought. We have three fourth rounders and ten picks overall. 

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                                @dutch-oven said:

                                One starter on the OLine is on a one year deal, two are on two year deals, I believe the third we traded for is on a three year deal.

                                Once again, beyond Fano there's virtually no one on this roster that I feel confident will even be on the Browns in three seasons. 

                                OLine needs to be added in the draft next year too. Doesn't have to be a first rounder, or a second rounder, but it can't be an after thought. We have three fourth rounders and ten picks overall. 

                                if we could make a few rules or guidelines: 

                                Oline I’d go with a Day 2 pick every other year now and ideally two offensive lineman per year.  Same with the Defensive line.

                                Add a corner every draft.

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                                  @jrb12711 said:

                                  true- I do like though how a rookie QB could, in theory, be behind a pretty well molded offensive line in 2027 assuming these guys don't all suck. It seems like everyone, to include Dawand Jones, that would be starting is under contract through 2027. Most of the guys are also young enough where they could in theory stick around for a few more years.

                                  I suppose we shall see.

                                  I would like to see our starting five get a half each preseason game.   Otherwise this group is going to struggle collectively the first month of the year and they probably will anyway.  One or two pieces of the unit rebuild is very different yet a challenge than replacing the entire unit.  We could benefit early if we stay away from Pittsburgh and Baltimore until October.

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                                  @sdbacker80 said:

                                  I would like to see our starting five get a half each preseason game.   Otherwise this group is going to struggle

                                  I don't know about a whole half ( hmm, does 'whole half' sound like it makes any sense 🙂 ) but I wouldn't be opposed to it.  It takes a lot of reps for an OL to become a cohesive unit.  And the best reps are against another team.  

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                                    Warren is a BIG safety, and I love the pick.

                                    Who’s to say he couldn’t play close to the line as a LB?

                                    He could potentially be a replacement for JOK.

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                                    @canton-dawg said:

                                    Warren is a BIG safety, and I love the pick.

                                    Who’s to say he couldn’t play close to the line as a LB?

                                    He could potentially be a replacement for JOK.

                                    The JOK thing still sucks; but I was worried about losing LB Devin Bush against the pass so I like where you went with that CD.... McNeil-Warren was projected to go in round 1 by a lot of people so this was a steal...

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                                        @canton-dawg said:

                                        Warren is a BIG safety, and I love the pick.

                                        Who’s to say he couldn’t play close to the line as a LB?

                                        He could potentially be a replacement for JOK.

                                        The JOK thing still sucks; but I was worried about losing LB Devin Bush against the pass so I like where you went with that CD.... McNeil-Warren was projected to go in round 1 by a lot of people so this was a steal...

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                                        @flugel said:

                                        LB Devin Bush

                                        when he came over from Seattle I was pretty damn happy, Especially for his hatred of pitsburgh

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                                          On paper it gets a feel good "A".  It looks great.

                                          The reality is every draft produces surprises, both good and bad a few years down the line.  JOK is a good example.  A great pick by all accounts that didn't work out as expected even if there is no real fault in that. 

                                          At minimum this class should pan out a solid B.  We should end up with 3 starters with firmly solid starting NFL status.  Anything more boosts the grade.

                                          If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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