Your Grade or Thoughts on our '26 Draft
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Warren is a BIG safety, and I love the pick.
Who’s to say he couldn’t play close to the line as a LB?
He could potentially be a replacement for JOK.
Warren is a BIG safety, and I love the pick.
Who’s to say he couldn’t play close to the line as a LB?
He could potentially be a replacement for JOK.
I am surprised he spent his entire career in Toledo, with the portal and nil money being what it is, He would probably end up in the big 10 somewhere, the way of the mac may be headed the way of the dodo
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While building teams has to be more of a present AND future thought process, my only hope is that the Browns addressed the offensive side of the ball as much as humanly possible in the draft and FA. Last year's team had the arguably the worst OL and WR rooms in the NFL- it's much more common for bad teams rebuilding to have strong needs across both offense and defense. Not the case in Cleveland going into the offseason.
With that being said, it's solid the Browns went offense focused with the top three picks and OL in free agency. What's compelling is that if Sanders doesn't work out (which I'm not rooting for, but fully expect to have unfold), you're going to have a much improved skill position and offensive line for a rookie QB in 2027. I believe essentially every OL on the team now is locked in through at least 2027, and if Fano is who they expect him to be you also have a cornerstone at the position.
While building teams has to be more of a present AND future thought process, my only hope is that the Browns addressed the offensive side of the ball as much as humanly possible in the draft and FA. Last year's team had the arguably the worst OL and WR rooms in the NFL- it's much more common for bad teams rebuilding to have strong needs across both offense and defense. Not the case in Cleveland going into the offseason.
With that being said, it's solid the Browns went offense focused with the top three picks and OL in free agency. What's compelling is that if Sanders doesn't work out (which I'm not rooting for, but fully expect to have unfold), you're going to have a much improved skill position and offensive line for a rookie QB in 2027. I believe essentially every OL on the team now is locked in through at least 2027, and if Fano is who they expect him to be you also have a cornerstone at the position.
I was thinking about the OLine today, and only Fano do I feel confident will be here in three seasons. Three or four of the vets they have got this offseason and will start are pretty much stopgaps, on one or two year deals.
I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again.
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While building teams has to be more of a present AND future thought process, my only hope is that the Browns addressed the offensive side of the ball as much as humanly possible in the draft and FA. Last year's team had the arguably the worst OL and WR rooms in the NFL- it's much more common for bad teams rebuilding to have strong needs across both offense and defense. Not the case in Cleveland going into the offseason.
With that being said, it's solid the Browns went offense focused with the top three picks and OL in free agency. What's compelling is that if Sanders doesn't work out (which I'm not rooting for, but fully expect to have unfold), you're going to have a much improved skill position and offensive line for a rookie QB in 2027. I believe essentially every OL on the team now is locked in through at least 2027, and if Fano is who they expect him to be you also have a cornerstone at the position.
I was thinking about the OLine today, and only Fano do I feel confident will be here in three seasons. Three or four of the vets they have got this offseason and will start are pretty much stopgaps, on one or two year deals.
I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again.
I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again.
I see austin barber being here as a guard and Brailsford, Parker as are center with Fano, so unless we have to give up the farm for a QB, I would not use a pick on a o lineman untill the third at best
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I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again.
I see austin barber being here as a guard and Brailsford, Parker as are center with Fano, so unless we have to give up the farm for a QB, I would not use a pick on a o lineman untill the third at best
I see austin barber being here as a guard and Brailsford, Parker as are center with Fano, so unless we have to give up the farm for a QB, I would not use a pick on a o lineman untill the third at best
Barber and Brailsford are depth guys until they show something that warrants the idea that they could start some day.
I'm not counting on either. If it happens, fantastic.
The work isn't done on the OLine. With how the OLine is constructed, if we don't get ahead of it by continuing to invest in the OLine we could very well be in the same position we were going into this offseason.
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I see austin barber being here as a guard and Brailsford, Parker as are center with Fano, so unless we have to give up the farm for a QB, I would not use a pick on a o lineman untill the third at best
Barber and Brailsford are depth guys until they show something that warrants the idea that they could start some day.
I'm not counting on either. If it happens, fantastic.
The work isn't done on the OLine. With how the OLine is constructed, if we don't get ahead of it by continuing to invest in the OLine we could very well be in the same position we were going into this offseason.
Barber and Brailsford are depth guys until they show something that warrants the idea that they could start some day.
I'm not counting on either. If it happens, fantastic.
The work isn't done on the OLine. With how the OLine is constructed, if we don't get ahead of it by continuing to invest in the OLine we could very well be in the same position we were going into this offseason.
same can be said of the D Line, and i believe with the fat ass we traded for and the others in F.A and the fat ass's still on the roster, O Line should be a low priority. Next year Edge in the 1st DT in the 2nd and after that. guess we will see what shakes out, BPA ?
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Barber and Brailsford are depth guys until they show something that warrants the idea that they could start some day.
I'm not counting on either. If it happens, fantastic.
The work isn't done on the OLine. With how the OLine is constructed, if we don't get ahead of it by continuing to invest in the OLine we could very well be in the same position we were going into this offseason.
same can be said of the D Line, and i believe with the fat ass we traded for and the others in F.A and the fat ass's still on the roster, O Line should be a low priority. Next year Edge in the 1st DT in the 2nd and after that. guess we will see what shakes out, BPA ?
same can be said of the D Line, and i believe with the fat ass we traded for and the others in F.A and the fat ass's still on the roster, O Line should be a low priority. Next year Edge in the 1st DT in the 2nd and after that. guess we will see what shakes out, BPA ?
One starter on the OLine is on a one year deal, two are on two year deals, I believe the third we traded for is on a three year deal.
Once again, beyond Fano there's virtually no one on this roster that I feel confident will even be on the Browns in three seasons.
OLine needs to be added in the draft next year too. Doesn't have to be a first rounder, or a second rounder, but it can't be an after thought. We have three fourth rounders and ten picks overall.
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Browns had 50.6% of O plays incorporate motion last season.. these OL can get outside, maybe looking to increase that next season to exploit overpursuit.
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Loved the draft esp the Denzel Boston and Mcneill-Warren picks. Didn't study draft grades much but are they our future Mike Evans and Kyle Hamiltons? Plus was Depo's departure addition by subtraction as our drafts have dramatically improved? Yes he was here for last year's draft but did not attend the post draft presser which implies he had little to do with it.
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While building teams has to be more of a present AND future thought process, my only hope is that the Browns addressed the offensive side of the ball as much as humanly possible in the draft and FA. Last year's team had the arguably the worst OL and WR rooms in the NFL- it's much more common for bad teams rebuilding to have strong needs across both offense and defense. Not the case in Cleveland going into the offseason.
With that being said, it's solid the Browns went offense focused with the top three picks and OL in free agency. What's compelling is that if Sanders doesn't work out (which I'm not rooting for, but fully expect to have unfold), you're going to have a much improved skill position and offensive line for a rookie QB in 2027. I believe essentially every OL on the team now is locked in through at least 2027, and if Fano is who they expect him to be you also have a cornerstone at the position.
I was thinking about the OLine today, and only Fano do I feel confident will be here in three seasons. Three or four of the vets they have got this offseason and will start are pretty much stopgaps, on one or two year deals.
I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again.
I was thinking about the OLine today, and only Fano do I feel confident will be here in three seasons. Three or four of the vets they have got this offseason and will start are pretty much stopgaps, on one or two year deals.
I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again.
true- I do like though how a rookie QB could, in theory, be behind a pretty well molded offensive line in 2027 assuming these guys don't all suck. It seems like everyone, to include Dawand Jones, that would be starting is under contract through 2027. Most of the guys are also young enough where they could in theory stick around for a few more years.
I suppose we shall see.
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Loved the draft esp the Denzel Boston and Mcneill-Warren picks. Didn't study draft grades much but are they our future Mike Evans and Kyle Hamiltons? Plus was Depo's departure addition by subtraction as our drafts have dramatically improved? Yes he was here for last year's draft but did not attend the post draft presser which implies he had little to do with it.
Loved the draft esp the Denzel Boston and Mcneill-Warren picks. Didn't study draft grades much but are they our future Mike Evans and Kyle Hamiltons? Plus was Depo's departure addition by subtraction as our drafts have dramatically improved? Yes he was here for last year's draft but did not attend the post draft presser which implies he had little to do with it.
Think Nick Emmanwori Seahawks with McNeil Warren. Boston has Drake London potential.
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I was thinking about the OLine today, and only Fano do I feel confident will be here in three seasons. Three or four of the vets they have got this offseason and will start are pretty much stopgaps, on one or two year deals.
I can see a scenario where the Browns in next year's draft use two picks in the first four rounds on OLine again.
true- I do like though how a rookie QB could, in theory, be behind a pretty well molded offensive line in 2027 assuming these guys don't all suck. It seems like everyone, to include Dawand Jones, that would be starting is under contract through 2027. Most of the guys are also young enough where they could in theory stick around for a few more years.
I suppose we shall see.
true- I do like though how a rookie QB could, in theory, be behind a pretty well molded offensive line in 2027 assuming these guys don't all suck. It seems like everyone, to include Dawand Jones, that would be starting is under contract through 2027. Most of the guys are also young enough where they could in theory stick around for a few more years.
I suppose we shall see.
I would like to see our starting five get a half each preseason game. Otherwise this group is going to struggle collectively the first month of the year and they probably will anyway. One or two pieces of the unit rebuild is very different yet a challenge than replacing the entire unit. We could benefit early if we stay away from Pittsburgh and Baltimore until October.
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same can be said of the D Line, and i believe with the fat ass we traded for and the others in F.A and the fat ass's still on the roster, O Line should be a low priority. Next year Edge in the 1st DT in the 2nd and after that. guess we will see what shakes out, BPA ?
One starter on the OLine is on a one year deal, two are on two year deals, I believe the third we traded for is on a three year deal.
Once again, beyond Fano there's virtually no one on this roster that I feel confident will even be on the Browns in three seasons.
OLine needs to be added in the draft next year too. Doesn't have to be a first rounder, or a second rounder, but it can't be an after thought. We have three fourth rounders and ten picks overall.
One starter on the OLine is on a one year deal, two are on two year deals, I believe the third we traded for is on a three year deal.
Once again, beyond Fano there's virtually no one on this roster that I feel confident will even be on the Browns in three seasons.
OLine needs to be added in the draft next year too. Doesn't have to be a first rounder, or a second rounder, but it can't be an after thought. We have three fourth rounders and ten picks overall.
if we could make a few rules or guidelines:
Oline I’d go with a Day 2 pick every other year now and ideally two offensive lineman per year. Same with the Defensive line.
Add a corner every draft.
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true- I do like though how a rookie QB could, in theory, be behind a pretty well molded offensive line in 2027 assuming these guys don't all suck. It seems like everyone, to include Dawand Jones, that would be starting is under contract through 2027. Most of the guys are also young enough where they could in theory stick around for a few more years.
I suppose we shall see.
I would like to see our starting five get a half each preseason game. Otherwise this group is going to struggle collectively the first month of the year and they probably will anyway. One or two pieces of the unit rebuild is very different yet a challenge than replacing the entire unit. We could benefit early if we stay away from Pittsburgh and Baltimore until October.
I would like to see our starting five get a half each preseason game. Otherwise this group is going to struggle
I don't know about a whole half ( hmm, does 'whole half' sound like it makes any sense
) but I wouldn't be opposed to it. It takes a lot of reps for an OL to become a cohesive unit. And the best reps are against another team.
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Warren is a BIG safety, and I love the pick.
Who’s to say he couldn’t play close to the line as a LB?
He could potentially be a replacement for JOK.
Warren is a BIG safety, and I love the pick.
Who’s to say he couldn’t play close to the line as a LB?
He could potentially be a replacement for JOK.
The JOK thing still sucks; but I was worried about losing LB Devin Bush against the pass so I like where you went with that CD.... McNeil-Warren was projected to go in round 1 by a lot of people so this was a steal...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Warren is a BIG safety, and I love the pick.
Who’s to say he couldn’t play close to the line as a LB?
He could potentially be a replacement for JOK.
The JOK thing still sucks; but I was worried about losing LB Devin Bush against the pass so I like where you went with that CD.... McNeil-Warren was projected to go in round 1 by a lot of people so this was a steal...
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On paper it gets a feel good "A". It looks great.
The reality is every draft produces surprises, both good and bad a few years down the line. JOK is a good example. A great pick by all accounts that didn't work out as expected even if there is no real fault in that.
At minimum this class should pan out a solid B. We should end up with 3 starters with firmly solid starting NFL status. Anything more boosts the grade.
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I'm torn - between a "B+" and an "A+".
I kinda think if they had drafted all my mock draft picks, they would be a "C".
kidding, I'm a kidder.
I do believe this draft is a solid "A".
Seems they drafted football players with character - Green as qb is intriguing - he may very well grow into a dynamic qb in a year or two. and I do mean, they drafted guys who love the game, and have the ability to play at the NFL level as a floor, with the ability to grow into terrific players over the long haul.
Truth is, I'm excited to see the difference in the Browns this coming season, the initial reason being that I believe in the new head coach bigtime.
In time, I believe Fano was a brilliant pick - I thought he'd be gone even before the Browns at six.
Conseption - was also a great pick, I hope he stays healthy.
Denzel Boston - nobody? thought he would be there in the second round. That is amazing. Goin to try to cover both of them? with our TE's in the mix? good luck with that.
Emmanuel McNeil-Warren - in the second round, after a move up? Here is how fantastic a pick he is - nfl.com gives him a grade of 6.39. Know what grade they gave Caleb Downs? 6.47. that's 8 tenths of a point difference. In the Browns defense - that is an exciting addition.
Austin Barber - Fano is extremely versatile, so is Barber. Monken, of course, knows the oline was a hideous weakness last year.
from NFL.com:
What we're hearing about Barber: "[We] see him as a tackle to start ... has the flexibility to move inside." -- Monken.
Parker Bradford - center, a big powerful ROCK at center. He may not start, but there is a lot to learn at center, Wypler will have to battle him for it later on. and Elgton Jenkins can move back to guard, where he was formerly an all pro.
Justin Jefferson - I believe we will hear his name on special teams, a lot. That isn't a bad floor for now.
Joe Royer - who? lol. Royer didn't drop a pass all last season. That is amazing - when you consider his highlights. Has very outstanding instincts, also able to be a good blocker.
last but not least -
Talen Green, qb. Not a surprise at this point - but is an amazing athlete, very smart, but will take some time before they can see just how soon he can start. I watched his highlights once, but he's 6'5", 227 lbs, 4.36 forty? wow. he doesn't have a Josh Allen arm, so we'll see.
Carson Ryan, TE. 6'3", 255 lbs, a blocking TE, who can also catch. Not a bad pick.
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I give the Browns draft an "A" - now if they can just cut you know who "qb" off the team, we're ready to roll.
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