I can't believe it happened...
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Zombo said:
The freak year was 08, not 07.Joe out, Stallworth out, Winslow out ... we started the season with Steptoe as our #2 option and Dinkins as our healthiest Tight end ... I will give a prize out to whoever tells me where they both are right now.
Zombo
Wow. Two straight (term used loosely) pages of a complete and total willingness to give Anderception a mulligan for 1st 3 games of '08 but not the same for Queef for this year. Both offenses are in complete disarray - (remind me who our TE & #2 receiver this year is again)- I'd say the circumstances are pretty effing similar.
Look Z, you take away DA's 1st 3 games of last season, and he's still a scattershot QB. A monster game against the Giants, a couple of serviceable games (still hovering around the 50% completion percentage, low 200 yds area) and then a couple of real stinkers. He is what he has been for his 5 years in the league & 4 years in college. He is the NFL QB equivalent of an Aneurysm.
IF ANYBODY is getting a prize, it should be me, for my new totally awesome nicknames for both of our QB's.
Brady Queef, & Derek Aneurysm. Kill me.A monster game against the Giants ......
You had me (again) at Monster game.
.... Bueller ..... Bueller .... Quinn .... Quinn .....?
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Z you better respond.
Looks to me like you just got owned.
Nice, rational post Dama.
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@danamal said:
Lets not forget,Everyone keeps using these parallels "the first three games"
To add to Dama's post DA not only was handed the keys for 08 but he returned to the EXACT same system as he had the previous year,with the EXACT same players.
What do we have this year,Cribbs as our #2,wtf?
But there was no JJ at the other WR for those first 3 games last year, BE missed some camp, DA had a concussion early in preseason, etc. (note I am mocking those excuses)
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KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!!
if Quinn can have just a couple more games, or even the rest of the season>>> I JUST KNOW HE CAN GET IT RIGHT!!!!
i just know you can do it BQ, i just know it!!!
fuk that stupid DA, all he does is throw picks!! BQ is our savior, NOT HIM!!! (he's not even from Ohio. wtf.)
i think we should get a BQ chant goin in the stands during warmups for the Bengals game, WHO'S WITH ME?!?!?!
WHOOHOO BQ!!!!
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I win.
Score one for reason.
Yay.
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tap tap
Still waiting for Z's response to dama. I'm really interested.
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Zombo said:
Marko, the Quinnies were whining about the "circumstances" that Quinn had to deal with in his three starts this year. I pointed out that they are no worse than the circumstances Anderson dealt with in his first three games last year with all the injuries, etc. Then I said if you give Quinn a mulligan for those three games, he is just a big unknown, while if you give Anderson a mulligan for those three games he actually has a pretty impressive career start for a young QB.There is no bias there. I'm just trying to explain something .... but unfortunately far too many Browns fans are blinded by love for Quinn and/or hate for Anderson.
The fact that Anderson is the better option right now seems reasonable to me. I didn't declare him a saviour or anything else. I just think he gives us a better chance to win a football game this Sunday.
Everything after that is Quinn Fagdom rearing its ugly head. Yes, I went there.
Zombo
You have to throw out more than 3 games for Anderson to have a "pretty impressive start". Don't forget the 3 starts in 2006..those games count as well, including a tremendous 4 int game against a shitty Tampa Bay team. Those 3 starts combined with the end of 2007 and most of 2008 don't add up to anything impressive. Inconsistent maybe...incredibly frustrating because you never know what you're going to get week to week.
My question for everyone who is happy that Anderson is now starting and saying "he gives us a better chance to win" is this....what are all of you going to say if Anderson repeats his late 2007 performance against Cincy and throws 4 ints and looks just like he did last week against Baltimore and we get blown out again?
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Bump.
Just making sure this is easy to find for Z.
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Zombo said:
Wow, what is that six posts by Grey and Juki anxiously waiting for me to join the thread?Sorry guys, since I wrote that last post I played in a golf tournament, got drunk, sold a house, got drunk, took my girlfriend to the Beach, partied all night, got up, had sex all morning, went to work, listed a condo, walked my dog, scratched my balls and took a three pound dump.
Now I log on to do "This Week" and you two are standing there panting like weimereiners nearly shitting yourselves because I haven't seen the memo that I got "owned" yet.
Ok ... thanks, nice memo.
Now I'm going to post "This Week", go have dinner, have sex all morning again and then go watch DA blow the Bungles out of the water. If I forget to check in to see if I got owned again, just PM me, that comes straight to my Blackberry.
Zombo
Only sold 1 house? Poor show.
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Dana, that's in effect a full blown admission of getting owned. You won't get more. You won.
(Hopefully Z's good with taking a ball breaking since he so enjoys giving them out.)
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@danamal said:
What body of work are you referring to DA 27 starts or Quinns 5 1/2?Excuses galore for the assmunch that single handidly lost the cinci game,got a second hand ticket to the pro bowl a fat contract and won the job took all the reps in camp last year with the exact same system and sucked worse than this tired ass argument but he is the man?
Go back to having sex with houses and shitting out your thoughts,
This is some weak ass shit.
sometimes i can't even believe you are the same person. at times you type out some stuff i really agree with...but when it comes to the QB i have a hard time believing it's even you danamal.
is there more than one of you who posts as danamal? cuz i could actually relate to that--it would make sense for sure.
forget about DA in '06 and '07. forget about Quinn in '07 and '08. just like let's forget about what these guys did in college, high school, whatever. look at them today. DA throws picks and produces...and Quinn looks, well, conservative and ineffective, or "non-threatening" at best.
now look at them at their absolute best. to clarify, the best they've looked in the NFL that is.
at Anderson's best, he's very capable of competing against the best in the league>>>i truly believe this.
when he's on his game all cylinders are firing and the entire playbook is available. that's today. his performances against the Seahawks in '07, and the Giants and Colts in '08 showed he can compete at this level without a doubt and now his short game is better, which is a much needed improvement for him.
at Quinn's best Dawson kicked a bunch of 40+ yard field goals. even some 50+ yarders. pick the game, your choice. the excuse "we haven't seen Quinn at his best" is definitely hopeful, but wishful thinking ain't reality. the best we've seen from him so far would doubtfully beat the '09 Browns. ouch.
Anderson getting the nod this Sunday seems a no-brainer to me.
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@danamal said:
What body of work are you referring to DA 27 starts or Quinns 5 1/2?Excuses galore for the assmunch that single handidly lost the cinci game,got a second hand ticket to the pro bowl a fat contract and won the job took all the reps in camp last year with the exact same system and sucked worse than this tired ass argument but he is the man?
Go back to having sex with houses and shitting out your thoughts,
This is some weak ass shit.
sometimes i can't even believe you are the same person. at times you type out some stuff i really agree with...but when it comes to the QB i have a hard time believing it's even you danamal.
is there more than one of you who posts as danamal? cuz i could actually relate to that--it would make sense for sure.
forget about DA in '06 and '07. forget about Quinn in '07 and '08. just like let's forget about what these guys did in college, high school, whatever. look at them today. DA throws picks and produces...and Quinn looks, well, conservative and ineffective, or "non-threatening" at best.
now look at them at their absolute best. to clarify, the best they've looked in the NFL that is.
at Anderson's best, he's very capable of competing against the best in the league>>>i truly believe this.
when he's on his game all cylinders are firing and the entire playbook is available. that's today. his performances against the Seahawks in '07, and the Giants and Colts in '08 showed he can compete at this level without a doubt and now his short game is better, which is a much needed improvement for him.
at Quinn's best Dawson kicked a bunch of 40+ yard field goals. even some 50+ yarders. pick the game, your choice. the excuse "we haven't seen Quinn at his best" is definitely hopeful, but wishful thinking ain't reality. the best we've seen from him so far would doubtfully beat the '09 Browns. ouch.
Anderson getting the nod this Sunday seems a no-brainer to me.
when he's on his game all cylinders are firing and the entire playbook is available. that's today. his performances against ......Colts in '08 showed he can compete at this level without a doubt and now his short game is better, which is a much needed improvement for him.
Please tell me you did not just say the above.
16/26 110 yards 4.2Y/A 0TDs and the fumble that cost the game is on your game (insert your own DA joke here)?
And when has he shown his short game is better? It wasn't in pre-season that much is for sure.
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sure i said it. fuk those stats i own a copy of the game and have watched it more than a few times.
he protected the ball really well all game but in the fourth quarter the Colts D got a gift. the pick was due to a "miscommunication" on the play as they say. it was a merging of perfect defensive play on that down combined with an extremely badly timed fuk-up on offense...and it led to a pick 6. i put it on the receiver and the ball being innaccurate by a foot or so.
still, it happened. it was his only pick all game and he never forced anything deep all game. hey, the Colts are good. what do you want? yeah he threw a pick. yeah it led to the win after an awesome defensive stand by the Browns D. shit happens.
his short game is obviously better and it's apparent every time he throws a short pass. what do you really want here? watch the dude play and you see what you want to see i guess.
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The thing that's interesting about Quinn is his total inability to throw the long ball accurately on a consistent basis. This leads to the defense not needing to drop back because they know it's not going to get bombed out there. This is the equivalent of stealing. Normally I would have thought Quinn deserved to be given a chance to progress.
But this inability to succeed was so bad it's holding back everyone else's progress.
It's not a wonderfully great decision but I see why it was made and on a selfish level am glad for less boring football. I always liked Derek, I believe he deserves another chance due to the skill set he has.
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sure i said it. fuk those stats i own a copy of the game and have watched it more than a few times.
he protected the ball really well all game but in the fourth quarter the Colts D got a gift. the pick was due to a "miscommunication" on the play as they say. it was a merging of perfect defensive play on that down combined with an extremely badly timed fuk-up on offense...and it led to a pick 6. i put it on the receiver and the ball being innaccurate by a foot or so.
still, it happened. it was his only pick all game and he never forced anything deep all game. hey, the Colts are good. what do you want? yeah he threw a pick. yeah it led to the win after an awesome defensive stand by the Browns D. shit happens.
his short game is obviously better and it's apparent every time he throws a short pass. what do you really want here? watch the dude play and you see what you want to see i guess.
sure i said it. fuk those stats i own a copy of the game and have watched it more than a few times.
he protected the ball really well all game but in the fourth quarter the Colts D got a gift. the pick was due to a "miscommunication" on the play as they say. it was a merging of perfect defensive play on that down combined with an extremely badly timed fuk-up on offense...and it led to a pick 6. i put it on the receiver and the ball being innaccurate by a foot or so.
still, it happened. it was his only pick all game and he never forced anything deep all game. hey, the Colts are good. what do you want? yeah he threw a pick. yeah it led to the win after an awesome defensive stand by the Browns D. shit happens.
his short game is obviously better and it's apparent every time he throws a short pass. what do you really want here? watch the dude play and you see what you want to see i guess.
You own a copy of the game, yet are telling me about a pick that never occured in the game
It was a fumble by DA, not a pick.I haven't seen his short game being obviously better. It didn't show in pre-season and there wasn't a lot of it in those 2 QTRs against BALT this past week.
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The thing that's interesting about Quinn is his total inability to throw the long ball accurately on a consistent basis. This leads to the defense not needing to drop back because they know it's not going to get bombed out there. This is the equivalent of stealing. Normally I would have thought Quinn deserved to be given a chance to progress.
But this inability to succeed was so bad it's holding back everyone else's progress.
It's not a wonderfully great decision but I see why it was made and on a selfish level am glad for less boring football. I always liked Derek, I believe he deserves another chance due to the skill set he has.
The thing that's interesting about Anderson is his total inability to throw the short/intermediateball accurately on a consistent basis. This leads to the defense only needing to drop back because they know it's not going to checked down on out there. This is the equivalent of stealing. Normally I would have thought Anderson deserved to be given a chance to progress, considering he has had 27 NFL start.
But this inability to succeed was so bad it's holding back everyone else's progress.
It's not a wonderfully great decision but I see why it was made and on a selfish level am glad for less boring football. I always liked Anderson, I believe he deserves another chance due to 27 starts not being enough.
By changing a couple of words in your post you can see why people aren't so high on DA (or any QB on this team right now)
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