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There is no study or evidence or wide spread voter fraud. Right wing think tanks have looked. We just have little anecdotes here and there, sometimes not even tied to voting, out of 100+ million votes.
Voter fraud is a Trojan horse / ammunition used by the right as justification to pass voting restrictions. Right wing policies, in a vacuum, are not popular (we know this through polling), so the right has correctly identified their best bet is limiting the number of voters. The less people voting, especially those more likely to vote Dem, the better for them.
We should be making voting more accessible. Our voter turnout sucks.
Voter fraud is a Trojan horse / ammunition used by the right as justification to pass voting restrictions.
Give examples of these "restrictions".
Pains me to even respond to your childish dribble in any post you make with nonsense like this.
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***another woodpecker stinking up the forum FART***
The woodpecker doesn't worry about illegals' violent crime because the woodpecker, and most all? lefties live per their own feelings. They don't have any respect or love for anything or anyone else, because they don't respect or love themselves. So they sit back and bitch and ridicule, make asses of themselves, and they tend to overcompensate about every issue, every moral norm, they revere making themselves feel better about themselves, mostly by ridiculing everything else.
Patriotism, our military, Christian churches, morals, everything great about our America - they deride it to try to FEEL like they are superior somehow.
Well, tens of millions of Americans do worry about the damage the 12 years of obaMao/biden radical hacks like I described did to our country.
Somehow, in America there is a large subculture of perverted losers who, like the woodpecker, do NOT give a damn about what is wrong.
Illegal violence....men in women's sports.....rampant collections of "homeless mentally ill people/drug addicts.....sex trafficking, drug trafficking....anti-everything that is normal and good about American human beings - they don't care. How they personally benefit is all they live by. If they don't benefit - they use assistance programs, they use words "violently" more and more viciously, because they don't get a free ride that would make them feel better about themselves.
Social media seems to be part of it happening, leftwing educators is part of it, and leftwing gov adds fuel to the fire - because that subculture is so big now, it can be manipulated to win elections.
It's a lot like the black community - they were struggling after slavery way back in the day - and they were constantly told to this very day by manipulators that their struggling is because of those white folks, because the white system is "keeping them down" etc etc etc.
It's very similar to the palestinians blaming the existence of Israel and all Jews for their dire poverty.
But the truth is - it is all a lie. History is easy to use to show that the palestinians' hatred of who they are not - is why they have destroyed their future since recorded history started.
And the black communities - so many black folks are getting sick of being manipulated, only to have the same poverty in their existence after decades of believing fake sympathy from democrats. That poverty ends up being of their own making because they voted democrats into office again and again.
The left has seen it happening, so ...they opened our borders and started doting on the illegals to the point of helping them get a free ride with gov services meant to help AMERICANS IN NEED. To the point of continually releasing them from jails/courtrooms back onto the street - all to curry favoritism from the illegals.
Illegals were their new voter demographic to win power and control of American taxpayers wealth. Thank GOD we all elected Pres Trump to FIX America back to being AMERICA.
The woodpecker doesn't worry about illegals' violent crime because the woodpecker, and most all? lefties live per their own feelings. They don't have any respect or love for anything or anyone else, because they don't respect or love themselves. So they sit back and bitch and ridicule, make asses of themselves, and they tend to overcompensate about every issue, every moral norm, they revere making themselves feel better about themselves, mostly by ridiculing everything else.
Patriotism, our military, Christian churches, morals, everything great about our America - they deride it to try to FEEL like they are superior somehow.
Well, tens of millions of Americans do worry about the damage the 12 years of obaMao/biden radical hacks like I described did to our country.
Somehow, in America there is a large subculture of perverted losers who, like the woodpecker, do NOT give a damn about what is wrong.
Illegal violence....men in women's sports.....rampant collections of "homeless mentally ill people/drug addicts.....sex trafficking, drug trafficking....anti-everything that is normal and good about American human beings - they don't care. How they personally benefit is all they live by. If they don't benefit - they use assistance programs, they use words "violently" more and more viciously, because they don't get a free ride that would make them feel better about themselves.
Social media seems to be part of it happening, leftwing educators is part of it, and leftwing gov adds fuel to the fire - because that subculture is so big now, it can be manipulated to win elections.
It's a lot like the black community - they were struggling after slavery way back in the day - and they were constantly told to this very day by manipulators that their struggling is because of those white folks, because the white system is "keeping them down" etc etc etc.
It's very similar to the palestinians blaming the existence of Israel and all Jews for their dire poverty.
But the truth is - it is all a lie. History is easy to use to show that the palestinians' hatred of who they are not - is why they have destroyed their future since recorded history started.
And the black communities - so many black folks are getting sick of being manipulated, only to have the same poverty in their existence after decades of believing fake sympathy from democrats. That poverty ends up being of their own making because they voted democrats into office again and again.
The left has seen it happening, so ...they opened our borders and started doting on the illegals to the point of helping them get a free ride with gov services meant to help AMERICANS IN NEED. To the point of continually releasing them from jails/courtrooms back onto the street - all to curry favoritism from the illegals.
Illegals were their new voter demographic to win power and control of American taxpayers wealth. Thank GOD we all elected Pres Trump to FIX America back to being AMERICA.
Always appreciate it when you make my point for me
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Oh boo hoo.
A word salad of feelings and emotions. I fuckin sat here and read that shit.
At least Vapor made a point.
Weren’t you just razzing me about the overuse of the term “word salad” like a week ago? I agreed with you, lol.
I get what Woody is saying. There’s a culpability factor greatly contributing to the “illegal immigrant problem” that’s coming from higher up on the food chain. There are enabling forces that came from high up, and in a sense many of those immigrants are victims of the specter of opportunity.
It’s kind of been our dirty little secret for a while now, for decades actually. We saw the “mismanagement” of the border under Biden, but was it really mismanagement?
There’s a culpability factor greatly contributing to the “illegal immigrant problem” that’s coming from higher up on the food chain. There are enabling forces that came from high up, and in a sense many of those immigrants are victims of the specter of opportunity.
It’s kind of been our dirty little secret for a while now, for decades actually. We saw the “mismanagement” of the border under Biden, but was it really mismanagement?
Not really a big secret, but it became apparent when the Democrats (aka Biden Administration) opened up the border and suddenly they want no voter ID? ?
Combine that with the gerrymandering and you have a political party pulling out all the stops to gain power.
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The woodpecker doesn't worry about illegals' violent crime because the woodpecker, and most all? lefties live per their own feelings. They don't have any respect or love for anything or anyone else, because they don't respect or love themselves. So they sit back and bitch and ridicule, make asses of themselves, and they tend to overcompensate about every issue, every moral norm, they revere making themselves feel better about themselves, mostly by ridiculing everything else.
Patriotism, our military, Christian churches, morals, everything great about our America - they deride it to try to FEEL like they are superior somehow.
Well, tens of millions of Americans do worry about the damage the 12 years of obaMao/biden radical hacks like I described did to our country.
Somehow, in America there is a large subculture of perverted losers who, like the woodpecker, do NOT give a damn about what is wrong.
Illegal violence....men in women's sports.....rampant collections of "homeless mentally ill people/drug addicts.....sex trafficking, drug trafficking....anti-everything that is normal and good about American human beings - they don't care. How they personally benefit is all they live by. If they don't benefit - they use assistance programs, they use words "violently" more and more viciously, because they don't get a free ride that would make them feel better about themselves.
Social media seems to be part of it happening, leftwing educators is part of it, and leftwing gov adds fuel to the fire - because that subculture is so big now, it can be manipulated to win elections.
It's a lot like the black community - they were struggling after slavery way back in the day - and they were constantly told to this very day by manipulators that their struggling is because of those white folks, because the white system is "keeping them down" etc etc etc.
It's very similar to the palestinians blaming the existence of Israel and all Jews for their dire poverty.
But the truth is - it is all a lie. History is easy to use to show that the palestinians' hatred of who they are not - is why they have destroyed their future since recorded history started.
And the black communities - so many black folks are getting sick of being manipulated, only to have the same poverty in their existence after decades of believing fake sympathy from democrats. That poverty ends up being of their own making because they voted democrats into office again and again.
The left has seen it happening, so ...they opened our borders and started doting on the illegals to the point of helping them get a free ride with gov services meant to help AMERICANS IN NEED. To the point of continually releasing them from jails/courtrooms back onto the street - all to curry favoritism from the illegals.
Illegals were their new voter demographic to win power and control of American taxpayers wealth. Thank GOD we all elected Pres Trump to FIX America back to being AMERICA.
Always appreciate it when you make my point for me
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Illegals are absolutely contributing to the decline of the American working class via supply and demand. Minimizing this problem is a huge blind spot of the left. My landscaper was pissed because he hired a legal Mexican guy to help him get on his feet. This Mexican then opened up a competing business with a bunch of his illegal cousins. They offer to mow a lawn for $30 a pop, and the average American landscaper simply cannot compete with that. Americans are rightly pissed about them being here.
I'm going to have to strongly disagree with you there on the level of blame placed on illegal immigrants. Even in a world where their existence is causing the issue having the SS round up any vaguely Hispanic individual, throw them in a concentration camp, and then deport them without due process isn't solving the root cause of the issue. If you're bleeding into the floor cuz your leg is cut open wiping up on the blood on the floor doesn't solve the issue. Politicians, mostly lawyers, don't do shit to resolve root causes. Maybe because surface level blame games are better to rally the base. Maybe they just don't get it. I wouldn't blame illegals. I'd blame our immigration system, the business exploiting them, etc.
Even then, I'm placing the blame on those in power and policies leading to an ever growing wealth gap in this country. It isn't left vs right, it's top vs bottom. Democrat elites are responsible just like Republicans. Wedge issues exist to keep the masses distracted. Much easier to point at a "lower" class and tell people they're causing all of your problems. Blacks. Muslims. Immigrants. Trans people. Etc. Yes, the Dems have blame, but there's clearly more blame to the right at this point. Go on stage, say "transgender" a few times, whip them into a frenzy, and then give you and your rich friends tax cuts. I won't dig into the people falling for it, either being gullible, victims, idiots, or all of the above.
I'm not worried about illegals. I don't fall for the rage porn our MAGA friends consume. I'm more concerned about getting justice against the Epstein class and reworking the policies in this country leading to a widening wealth gap, increasingly unachievable financial goals for the youth, and a general sense of helplessness for younger generations.
I'm going to have to strongly disagree with you there on the level of blame placed on illegal immigrants.
You're welcome to disagree with these guys all you like, but even the average American has changed their tune on the topic over the past decade. 2/3 of the country supports mass deportations of illegals. https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/majority-americans-support-deporting-immigrants-who-are-us-illegally
We're in agreement that the people creating the problem are also to blame. Trump and his hotels shouldn't get a pass. Corporate farms shouldn't get a pass. Instead of letting the natural ebb and flow of supply and demand allow workers to get a bigger slice of the pie, the job creators have instead opted to maximize profits by promoting mass illegal (and legal) immigration that undercuts the American working class.
Blue collar work *will* pay more if you stop importing a bunch of low-wage immigrants. Just look at what happened to trucking after the unanimous SCOTUS decision in the last month to allow criminal penalties for the companies who hire negligent drivers. Suddenly, the insurance brokers wouldn't touch shady CDL farms for H1Bs and illegals. Spot rates for truckers became the highest they'd been in like 20-30 years.
Deporting every. single. illegal. and penalizing every employer who allows them to undercut Americans is how you rebuild the middle class and prevent a 1936 Germany situation from happening here.
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I'm going to have to strongly disagree with you there on the level of blame placed on illegal immigrants.
You're welcome to disagree with these guys all you like, but even the average American has changed their tune on the topic over the past decade. 2/3 of the country supports mass deportations of illegals. https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/majority-americans-support-deporting-immigrants-who-are-us-illegally
We're in agreement that the people creating the problem are also to blame. Trump and his hotels shouldn't get a pass. Corporate farms shouldn't get a pass. Instead of letting the natural ebb and flow of supply and demand allow workers to get a bigger slice of the pie, the job creators have instead opted to maximize profits by promoting mass illegal (and legal) immigration that undercuts the American working class.
Blue collar work *will* pay more if you stop importing a bunch of low-wage immigrants. Just look at what happened to trucking after the unanimous SCOTUS decision in the last month to allow criminal penalties for the companies who hire negligent drivers. Suddenly, the insurance brokers wouldn't touch shady CDL farms for H1Bs and illegals. Spot rates for truckers became the highest they'd been in like 20-30 years.
Deporting every. single. illegal. and penalizing every employer who allows them to undercut Americans is how you rebuild the middle class and prevent a 1936 Germany situation from happening here.
You're welcome to disagree with these guys all you like, but even the average American has changed their tune on the topic over the past decade. 2/3 of the country supports mass deportations of illegals. https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/majority-americans-support-deporting-immigrants-who-are-us-illegally
We're in agreement that the people creating the problem are also to blame. Trump and his hotels shouldn't get a pass. Corporate farms shouldn't get a pass. Instead of letting the natural ebb and flow of supply and demand allow workers to get a bigger slice of the pie, the job creators have instead opted to maximize profits by promoting mass illegal (and legal) immigration that undercuts the American working class.
Blue collar work *will* pay more if you stop importing a bunch of low-wage immigrants. Just look at what happened to trucking after the unanimous SCOTUS decision in the last month to allow criminal penalties for the companies who hire negligent drivers. Suddenly, the insurance brokers wouldn't touch shady CDL farms for H1Bs and illegals. Spot rates for truckers became the highest they'd been in like 20-30 years.
Deporting every. single. illegal. and penalizing every employer who allows them to undercut Americans is how you rebuild the middle class and prevent a 1936 Germany situation from happening here.
It's a great start, but can you change things with enough/plenty of, corrupt politicians? I'm not for gov't saving anything, but if we can at least stop them from enabling companies/CEOs might be good enough.
Anyone with half a brain can see the problems illegals cause, especially a mass invasion. Just cause woody wants to call everyone racists and bigots doesn't mean no one else knows the problems. So it goes without saying, other than continually having to correct woodys misinformation.
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I'm going to have to strongly disagree with you there on the level of blame placed on illegal immigrants.
You're welcome to disagree with these guys all you like, but even the average American has changed their tune on the topic over the past decade. 2/3 of the country supports mass deportations of illegals. https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/majority-americans-support-deporting-immigrants-who-are-us-illegally
We're in agreement that the people creating the problem are also to blame. Trump and his hotels shouldn't get a pass. Corporate farms shouldn't get a pass. Instead of letting the natural ebb and flow of supply and demand allow workers to get a bigger slice of the pie, the job creators have instead opted to maximize profits by promoting mass illegal (and legal) immigration that undercuts the American working class.
Blue collar work *will* pay more if you stop importing a bunch of low-wage immigrants. Just look at what happened to trucking after the unanimous SCOTUS decision in the last month to allow criminal penalties for the companies who hire negligent drivers. Suddenly, the insurance brokers wouldn't touch shady CDL farms for H1Bs and illegals. Spot rates for truckers became the highest they'd been in like 20-30 years.
Deporting every. single. illegal. and penalizing every employer who allows them to undercut Americans is how you rebuild the middle class and prevent a 1936 Germany situation from happening here.
You're welcome to disagree with these guys all you like, but even the average American has changed their tune on the topic over the past decade. 2/3 of the country supports mass deportations of illegals. https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/majority-americans-support-deporting-immigrants-who-are-us-illegally
We're in agreement that the people creating the problem are also to blame. Trump and his hotels shouldn't get a pass. Corporate farms shouldn't get a pass. Instead of letting the natural ebb and flow of supply and demand allow workers to get a bigger slice of the pie, the job creators have instead opted to maximize profits by promoting mass illegal (and legal) immigration that undercuts the American working class.
Blue collar work *will* pay more if you stop importing a bunch of low-wage immigrants. Just look at what happened to trucking after the unanimous SCOTUS decision in the last month to allow criminal penalties for the companies who hire negligent drivers. Suddenly, the insurance brokers wouldn't touch shady CDL farms for H1Bs and illegals. Spot rates for truckers became the highest they'd been in like 20-30 years.
Deporting every. single. illegal. and penalizing every employer who allows them to undercut Americans is how you rebuild the middle class and prevent a 1936 Germany situation from happening here.
And here's a poll showing the majority of Americans prefer a pathway to citizenship
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3926
Though I've seen other polls online showing majority approval of deporting illegals but then majority disapproval of how Trump is doing it. How the question is asked / the context is important here, obviously.
What do you think has damaged the middle class, impacted affordability, and widened the wealth gap more: illegal immigrants or the actions of elites / wealthy and powerful individuals in this country?
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You're welcome to disagree with these guys all you like, but even the average American has changed their tune on the topic over the past decade. 2/3 of the country supports mass deportations of illegals. https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/majority-americans-support-deporting-immigrants-who-are-us-illegally
We're in agreement that the people creating the problem are also to blame. Trump and his hotels shouldn't get a pass. Corporate farms shouldn't get a pass. Instead of letting the natural ebb and flow of supply and demand allow workers to get a bigger slice of the pie, the job creators have instead opted to maximize profits by promoting mass illegal (and legal) immigration that undercuts the American working class.
Blue collar work *will* pay more if you stop importing a bunch of low-wage immigrants. Just look at what happened to trucking after the unanimous SCOTUS decision in the last month to allow criminal penalties for the companies who hire negligent drivers. Suddenly, the insurance brokers wouldn't touch shady CDL farms for H1Bs and illegals. Spot rates for truckers became the highest they'd been in like 20-30 years.
Deporting every. single. illegal. and penalizing every employer who allows them to undercut Americans is how you rebuild the middle class and prevent a 1936 Germany situation from happening here.
And here's a poll showing the majority of Americans prefer a pathway to citizenship
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3926
Though I've seen other polls online showing majority approval of deporting illegals but then majority disapproval of how Trump is doing it. How the question is asked / the context is important here, obviously.
What do you think has damaged the middle class, impacted affordability, and widened the wealth gap more: illegal immigrants or the actions of elites / wealthy and powerful individuals in this country?
What do you think has damaged the middle class, impacted affordability, and widened the wealth gap more: illegal immigrants or the actions of elites / wealthy and powerful individuals in this country?
Yes.
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What do you think has damaged the middle class, impacted affordability, and widened the wealth gap more: illegal immigrants or the actions of elites / wealthy and powerful individuals in this country?
Yes.
Yes.
Just another area we'll agree to disagree
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Yes.
Just another area we'll agree to disagree
Just another area we'll agree to disagree
Facts? I don't need no stinkin' facts...
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Illegal Immigrants and Foreign Fraudsters steal BILLIONS every year from the American Taxpayer. As part of my Administration’s Historic effort to end FRAUD and reverse MASS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, I recently signed a powerful new Executive Order, which will be led by the Treasury Department, to stop Banks, Credit Cards, and Financial Institutions from being used to facilitate Human Smuggling, Drug Trafficking, Illegal Immigration, and the Criminal Cartels who orchestrate these activities. Access to our Nation’s Financial Systems must be limited to those who have a Legal Right to be here, and who are engaged in Lawful and Legitimate Commerce. Bank Accounts being used to enable Illegal Immigration, or to store the Welfare received by Illegal Aliens, will be shut down, and funds will ultimately face Impoundment and Seizure so they can to be returned to Taxpayers. It is not ludicrous, but profoundly dangerous, that any Illegal Alien can simply present a Blue State Drivers License, or Biden Border Document, and have unrestricted access to the U.S. Financial System. This also sends a clear message to the anti-ICE rioters that your violent disruptions are only strengthening our resolve. My Executive Order will also allow us to stop Billions in leaving our Country in all manner of criminal activity. It has been said this measure we are taking is the most effective means of reversing Biden’s Border Invasion. We shall soon find out! President DONALD J. TRUMP - Tump
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"you need facts! Facts I say! Speaking of facts, here's some propaganda from the Trump admin I believe completely! And they've totally never lied about anything!"
My guy, as much as the right likes to pretend they only care about facts it's been made abundantly clear over the last decade you, in fact, do not. It's anecdotes, fear mongering, lies, etc. is what you care about. Whatever Trump says, whatever "owns the libs", etc.
Trying to engage with any of you in a fact based "debate" couldn't be a bigger waste of time
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"you need facts! Facts I say! Speaking of facts, here's some propaganda from the Trump admin I believe completely! And they've totally never lied about anything!"
My guy, as much as the right likes to pretend they only care about facts it's been made abundantly clear over the last decade you, in fact, do not. It's anecdotes, fear mongering, lies, etc. is what you care about. Whatever Trump says, whatever "owns the libs", etc.
Trying to engage with any of you in a fact based "debate" couldn't be a bigger waste of time
"you need facts! Facts I say! Speaking of facts, here's some propaganda from the Trump admin I believe completely! And they've totally never lied about anything!"
My guy, as much as the right likes to pretend they only care about facts it's been made abundantly clear over the last decade you, in fact, do not. It's anecdotes, fear mongering, lies, etc. is what you care about. Whatever Trump says, whatever "owns the libs", etc.
Trying to engage with any of you in a fact based "debate" couldn't be a bigger waste of time
Right...and Trump is an evil fascist dictator hitler that's come to eat your babies and if you don't win the next election then your democracy is lost. ?Oh yeah, and the sea level will rise by 3 feet!
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"you need facts! Facts I say! Speaking of facts, here's some propaganda from the Trump admin I believe completely! And they've totally never lied about anything!"
My guy, as much as the right likes to pretend they only care about facts it's been made abundantly clear over the last decade you, in fact, do not. It's anecdotes, fear mongering, lies, etc. is what you care about. Whatever Trump says, whatever "owns the libs", etc.
Trying to engage with any of you in a fact based "debate" couldn't be a bigger waste of time
Right...and Trump is an evil fascist dictator hitler that's come to eat your babies and if you don't win the next election then your democracy is lost. ?Oh yeah, and the sea level will rise by 3 feet!
Right...and Trump is an evil fascist dictator hitler that's come to eat your babies and if you don't win the next election then your democracy is lost. ?Oh yeah, and the sea level will rise by 3 feet!
This is Woody in a nutshell:..
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Dr.'s and engineers can't afford it apparently.....
I can afford it just fine. I feel terrible for all the Americans with blue collar jobs who are going to have to make some tough choices.
I can afford it just fine. I feel terrible for all the Americans with blue collar jobs who are going to have to make some tough choices.
When was the last time you checked in on the blue collar folks? I make more money than I ever believed I possibly could. And I have a company vehicle so I dont pay out of pocket for gas.
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I can afford it just fine. I feel terrible for all the Americans with blue collar jobs who are going to have to make some tough choices.
When was the last time you checked in on the blue collar folks? I make more money than I ever believed I possibly could. And I have a company vehicle so I dont pay out of pocket for gas.
When was the last time you checked in on the blue collar folks? I make more money than I ever believed I possibly could. And I have a company vehicle so I dont pay out of pocket for gas.
I guess "blue collar" means leftwing Israel haters on welfare or fraud to him.
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