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    1. American Enterprise Institute - AEI

      https://www.aei.org › research-products › report › why-socialism-fails

      Why Socialism Fails - American Enterprise Institute - AEI

      Socialism is the ultimate big lie. While it falsely promises prosperity, equality, and security, it delivers the exact opposite: poverty, misery, inequality, and tyranny. Equality is achieved ...

    2. mises.org.ico

      Mises Institute

      https://mises.org › mises-wire › mises-explains-why-socialism-fails

      Mises Explains Why Socialism Fails

      So, why does socialism fail? It fails because it's the very negation of the idea of economy —economizing man. Abolishing private ownership for production goods, socialism abolishes the market for them and makes it impossible for market prices to emerge and for costs of production to be computed—thus impairing the profit and loss mechanism.

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      American Enterprise Institute - AEI

      https://www.aei.org › economics › why-socialism-failed-a-2018-update-part-i

      'Why Socialism Failed: A 2018 Update,' Part I - AEI

      In 1995, I wrote an article titled "Why Socialism Failed" and it appeared in The Freeman, the flagship publication of the Foundation for Economic Education. It was one of the first essays or ...

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      1. The Heritage Foundation

        https://www.heritage.org › progressivism › commentary › three-nations-tried-socialism-and-rejected-it

        Three Nations That Tried Socialism and Rejected It

        But in truth, socialism has failed in every country in which it has been tried, from the Soviet Union beginning a century ago to three modern countries that tried but ultimately rejected socialism ...

      2. www.forbes.com.ico

        Forbes

        https://www.forbes.com › sites › rainerzitelmann › 2020 › 03 › 16 › socialism-the-failed-idea-that-never-dies

        Socialism: The Failed Idea That Never Dies - Forbes

        Mar 16, 2020Bernie Sanders is a self-avowed socialist—but why is an idea that has failed throughout history still so popular? Why have socialist ideas become so attractive again, despite the fact that ...

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        CrossExamined.org

        https://crossexamined.org › 10-reasons-why-socialism-fails

        10 Reasons Why Socialism Fails - Cross Examined

        What is socialism and why doesn't it work? In this special podcast, Frank shows that socialism doesn't work because it ignores economics 101 in ten ways.

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        exactly as I've said:

        www.hoover.org.ico

        Hoover Institution

        https://www.hoover.org › research › false-appeal-socialism

        The False Appeal Of Socialism - Hoover Institution

        Authoritarian socialism is lethal because it brooks no dissent. In every implementation of authoritarian socialism, individual freedom has been irrevocably compromised for a utopian and unattainable collective idea. The sheer number of failed socialist experiments raises unavoidable questions about politics, economics, justice, and human nature.

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          losers like the woodpecker FEEL issues, but don't UNDERSTAND issues.

          assbird always gets it wrong.

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            SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK, ASSBIRD WOODPECKER !

            https://www.foxnews.com/media/government-run-grocery-stores-face-renewed-scrutiny-chicago-experiment-fizzles

            Government-run grocery stores face renewed scrutiny after Chicago's experiment fizzles

            Seven stores on the South and West sides of Chicago closed as critics say taxpayer-funded grocery initiatives ignore market realities

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              I got through about half of it. It’s a PR piece, that’s for sure. Another good topic htown.

              My position is we’re all on the train, and we have some degree of steering it, but only so much.

              Whatever economic system we steer towards has to show clear opportunity for younger generations growing up in it. If they can’t see it, then this is the sort of thing they will gravitate towards.

              I grew up poor and carved out a living in our capitalist system. It’s all l know. It seems harder now than when l was younger.

              it’s largely on the current administration to make it crystal clear that there is still opportunity under the current system. Of course they gotta work for it, that’s how this works.

              But if younger people can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel, we might be fucked.

              I don't know what you could say to the young people other than the truth. Global economics are shifting to something we have no historical reference to, but no matter what comes out the other end this country will still be leading the world. There will be opportunities, it's just hard to say what they will be now.

              But I would hope they understand that making everything public property means you will own nothing. Everything will become a slum because there are no vested interests.

              The thing about countries that are communist/socialist is there's no room for failure. You will become what society needs you to become. Your skill set doesn't matter as much a necessity. And if you don't comply there will be hell to pay.

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              @htownbrown said:

              I don't know what you could say to the young people other than the truth. Global economics are shifting to something we have no historical reference to, but no matter what comes out the other end this country will still be leading the world. There will be opportunities, it's just hard to say what they will be now.

              But I would hope they understand that making everything public property means you will own nothing. Everything will become a slum because there are no vested interests.

              The thing about countries that are communist/socialist is there's no room for failure. You will become what society needs you to become. Your skill set doesn't matter as much a necessity. And if you don't comply there will be hell to pay.

              They’ll figure out the truth of it regardless, but what l hope gets impressed upon them is the hope of opportunity much like we had growing up. I’m admittedly a little out of touch with younger generations. I have a 20 something kid and her friends as personal reference points, but l also get pings of apathy here and there and l don’t fully know the lay of the land with how younger generations are processing their prospects in the world.

              I think that’s the lynch pin in all this though and l think it would behoove whoever is in charge to make it a focus. Otherwise l fear we’ll have a younger generation that is out of sync with us older folks and they will seek change that makes us older folks a little uncomfortable, and they will eventually have the numbers to steer the train.

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                I’m going to fess up and admit l have no idea what Pareto distribution means. I’m pretty nerdy, but you guys might be nerdier. Keep it up, l appreciate it.

                I’m attaching an AI screenshot for my own purposes and anyone else who wants to follow along. It’s only so helpful, but it’s a start.

                Whenever you see text like this, you know you’re in to some nerdy shit.

                “Scale Parameter (??): The minimum possible value that the random variable can take (always greater than zero).”

                IMG_7375.jpeg

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                  kids tend to be easier to deceive emotionally on issues - they just don't have the experience in life to benefit from. The one help is if parents can communicate value system aspects of issues to them, and have them learn history on subjects, especially American history.

                  But so far too many public schools are failing - some of them fail because they have an agenda that doesn't include simple teaching of math,

                  history, physics, simple economics, etc.

                  Those admin/teachers tend to have personal issues, and they try to deal with them by teaching students in terms of their own weaknesses. Those teachers got into the profession for the wrong reasons, obviously.

                  About socialism - https://www.facebook.com/reel/2941316289550217

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                    1. 15 Failures of U.S. Public Education in 2025 - Public School Review

                      Mar 10, 2026Updated for 2026: the 15 biggest failures of the American public education system, with new data, expert insights, and reform examples.

                    2. www.highereducationinquirer.org.ico

                      highereducationinquirer.org

                      https://www.highereducationinquirer.org › 2025 › 02 › blackboard-jungle-2025-how-us-schools.html

                      Higher Education Inquirer : Blackboard Jungle 2025: How US Schools ...

                      Feb 19, 2025In 2025 the state of American education is more precarious than ever. Many public schools, especially those in underfunded urban and rural areas, are failing their students. The term "failing schools" is often thrown around in political debates, but what does it actually mean? And how did we get here? The Markers of Failure Failing schools are characterized by a combination of low test scores ...

                    3. www.theedadvocate.org.ico

                      The Edvocate

                      https://www.theedadvocate.org › 18-reasons-the-u-s-education-system-is-failing

                      18 Reasons the U.S. Education System is Failing

                      Spread the loveIntroduction: Understanding the Challenges in U.S. Education The education system in the United States has long been a topic of debate and concern. Despite significant investments in education, the system faces persistent challenges that hinder its effectiveness and impact. From disparities in funding to outdated curricula, the reasons behind the failures of the U.S. education ...

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                      Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)
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                      THE NATIONAL POLITICAL COMMITTEE DSA’s primary political leadership is the National Political Committee (NPC), a twenty-five-person body which functions as the board of directors of DSA and is elected

                      These two are the highest ranking members of the DSA national committee.

                      As I watch interviews of this committee I will post them in this thread.

                      Remember these people will be in charge of all means of essential production.

                      “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                        "united federation of planets" tells the truth about it.

                        Using climate to manipulate people, etc etc etc.

                        Emotional manipulation based on asinine utopian lies.

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                          "united federation of planets" tells the truth about it.

                          Using climate to manipulate people, etc etc etc.

                          Emotional manipulation based on asinine utopian lies.

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                          @calfoxwc said:

                          "united federation of planets" tells the truth about it.

                          Using climate to manipulate people, etc etc etc.

                          Emotional manipulation based on asinine utopian lies.

                          Well, not quite.

                          United Federation of Planets is from Star Trek.

                          The other flag is from a cartoon called One Piece....similar to Pokémon.

                          But yes, the guy is formerly a climate activist.

                          “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                            I stumbled across this interview where the man suggests grad employees and professors from Columbia University and the University of Michigan are major influencers in this "movement". Hmmm. It's at the 23:00 minute mark, but the whole interview is interesting.

                            “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                              htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                              2025-2027-NPC-Graphic-With-Headshots-.png

                              Ready to build something better than capitalism?

                              “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                                Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)
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                                THE NATIONAL POLITICAL COMMITTEE DSA’s primary political leadership is the National Political Committee (NPC), a twenty-five-person body which functions as the board of directors of DSA and is elected

                                These two are the highest ranking members of the DSA national committee.

                                As I watch interviews of this committee I will post them in this thread.

                                Remember these people will be in charge of all means of essential production.

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                                IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                                @htownbrown said:

                                Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)
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                                THE NATIONAL POLITICAL COMMITTEE DSA’s primary political leadership is the National Political Committee (NPC), a twenty-five-person body which functions as the board of directors of DSA and is elected

                                These two are the highest ranking members of the DSA national committee.

                                As I watch interviews of this committee I will post them in this thread.

                                Remember these people will be in charge of all means of essential production.

                                I watched the interview with Megan. You gotta hand it to her that she more often than not directly answers questions, which is refreshing after seeing so many politicians dance around questions without giving a direct answer.

                                Nonetheless, l can’t see this utopian world she describes without cops and prisons, and how all the problems in the world can be accomplished with social workers. It sounds nice, but l don’t think it’s practical.

                                I also don’t think the average person wants the added responsibility of having a say in the means of production.

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                                  @htownbrown said:

                                  Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)
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                                  THE NATIONAL POLITICAL COMMITTEE DSA’s primary political leadership is the National Political Committee (NPC), a twenty-five-person body which functions as the board of directors of DSA and is elected

                                  These two are the highest ranking members of the DSA national committee.

                                  As I watch interviews of this committee I will post them in this thread.

                                  Remember these people will be in charge of all means of essential production.

                                  I watched the interview with Megan. You gotta hand it to her that she more often than not directly answers questions, which is refreshing after seeing so many politicians dance around questions without giving a direct answer.

                                  Nonetheless, l can’t see this utopian world she describes without cops and prisons, and how all the problems in the world can be accomplished with social workers. It sounds nice, but l don’t think it’s practical.

                                  I also don’t think the average person wants the added responsibility of having a say in the means of production.

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                                  @ibleedbrown said:

                                  I watched the interview with Megan. You gotta hand it to her that she more often than not directly answers questions, which is refreshing after seeing so many politicians dance around questions without giving a direct answer.

                                  Nonetheless, l can’t see this utopian world she describes without cops and prisons, and how all the problems in the world can be accomplished with social workers. It sounds nice, but l don’t think it’s practical.

                                  I also don’t think the average person wants the added responsibility of having a say in the means of production.

                                  They'll tell you exactly what they want, but they seem oblivious to how stupid they sound. "We'll tear it all down and the committee will vote later on how it will be rebuilt" is child's play.

                                  The way they speak as if everything will shift slowly over time from capitalism to socialism, it's as if they believe there will never be another election after they gain control.....

                                  “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                                    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_JbI7KvQmU/?hl=en

                                    Bonus points if anyone can figure which one of these mimes is credited with getting Mamdani elected.

                                    “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                                      @ibleedbrown said:

                                      I watched the interview with Megan. You gotta hand it to her that she more often than not directly answers questions, which is refreshing after seeing so many politicians dance around questions without giving a direct answer.

                                      Nonetheless, l can’t see this utopian world she describes without cops and prisons, and how all the problems in the world can be accomplished with social workers. It sounds nice, but l don’t think it’s practical.

                                      I also don’t think the average person wants the added responsibility of having a say in the means of production.

                                      They'll tell you exactly what they want, but they seem oblivious to how stupid they sound. "We'll tear it all down and the committee will vote later on how it will be rebuilt" is child's play.

                                      The way they speak as if everything will shift slowly over time from capitalism to socialism, it's as if they believe there will never be another election after they gain control.....

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                                      @htownbrown said:

                                      They'll tell you exactly what they want, but they seem oblivious to how stupid they sound. "We'll tear it all down and the committee will vote later on how it will be rebuilt" is child's play.

                                      The way they speak as if everything will shift slowly over time from capitalism to socialism, it's as if they believe there will never be another election after they gain control.....

                                      Her statement about sending an army of diplomats to settle the Russia/Ukraine war was particularly “come on now…”

                                      I don’t know who vibes with messages like this, but l suspect it’s younger people who aren’t optimistic about their prospects in the world. I already said that though, so l think all any of us can do is watch how it plays out and dig in to the numbers if the DSA starts pulling a respectable amount of support.

                                      There’s not a whole lot of DSA politicians at the federal level as of now. AOC and Rashida Talib is basically the whole list.

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Socialists_of_America_public_officeholders

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                                        @htownbrown said:

                                        They'll tell you exactly what they want, but they seem oblivious to how stupid they sound. "We'll tear it all down and the committee will vote later on how it will be rebuilt" is child's play.

                                        The way they speak as if everything will shift slowly over time from capitalism to socialism, it's as if they believe there will never be another election after they gain control.....

                                        Her statement about sending an army of diplomats to settle the Russia/Ukraine war was particularly “come on now…”

                                        I don’t know who vibes with messages like this, but l suspect it’s younger people who aren’t optimistic about their prospects in the world. I already said that though, so l think all any of us can do is watch how it plays out and dig in to the numbers if the DSA starts pulling a respectable amount of support.

                                        There’s not a whole lot of DSA politicians at the federal level as of now. AOC and Rashida Talib is basically the whole list.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Socialists_of_America_public_officeholders

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                                        @ibleedbrown said:

                                        Her statement about sending an army of diplomats to settle the Russia/Ukraine war was particularly “come on now…”

                                        I don’t know who vibes with messages like this, but l suspect it’s younger people who aren’t optimistic about their prospects in the world. I already said that though, so l think all any of us can do is watch how it plays out and dig in to the numbers if the DSA starts pulling a respectable amount of support.

                                        There’s not a whole lot of DSA politicians at the federal level as of now. AOC and Rashida Talib is basically the whole list.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Socialists_of_America_public_officeholders

                                        I would prefer to keep reminding people of how dumb this is, everyday if need be, before it becomes a problem.

                                        I hoped young people would read up on global economics before they go full "Lord of the Flies", but here we are.

                                        “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                                          There are a bunch, however relatively small, that FEEL that the grass is greener on the other side of the fence.

                                          But let them learn history of socialism-->communism, and that would change.

                                          It's kinda like they grew up in the city, and FEEL that the grass is imperfect in Louisiana and there are mosquitoes, etc, and they FEEL that if they

                                          could just get everyone to jump the high fence, everything would be far better, far more wonderful, and free stuff would fall like rain drops.

                                          Then, they jump the high fence, and land in 8' of swamp water, quick sand, alligators and cotton mouth snakes.

                                          But then, it's too late. "Tear it all down, build utopia" sounds like a Star Trek show.

                                          BTW, years ago, we mentioned that the dem party was just starting to lean socialist in some of their policies, and it was laughed at.

                                          Not a funny matter anymore.

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