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  • Something interesting of note. Even excellent Broncos QB Bo Nix had a similar off day @ KC. He was 17 of 28 131 yds one Int early in the game leading to a KC TD, ran for 2 yds, sacked 4 times, one TD and a QB rating of 69.1 in a 31-10 loss to KC. The team had a total of 61 yds rushing with no TD.

    Nobody in Denver is calling for his head yet. Nor for the HC's.

  • So far I'm not one bit impressed with Rutenberg... This passive sit and wait zone bullshit has to stop.. We were sold a bill of goods thinking we would run anything like the Schwartz system.. What I see is the complete opposite.. I see guys out of position,,, Lost and gassed out by the 2nd quarter.. Rutenberg better get it together or Jason Tarver needs to take over... Thats who I wanted to get the gig.. He's paid his dues.

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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  • BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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  • nickersN nickers

    So far I'm not one bit impressed with Rutenberg... This passive sit and wait zone bullshit has to stop.. We were sold a bill of goods thinking we would run anything like the Schwartz system.. What I see is the complete opposite.. I see guys out of position,,, Lost and gassed out by the 2nd quarter.. Rutenberg better get it together or Jason Tarver needs to take over... Thats who I wanted to get the gig.. He's paid his dues.

    @nickers said:

    This passive sit and wait zone bullshit has to stop

    That's addressed in the above video. Ward & Campbell should each be taking one receiver out. They're good at man.

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  • nickersN nickers

    So far I'm not one bit impressed with Rutenberg... This passive sit and wait zone bullshit has to stop.. We were sold a bill of goods thinking we would run anything like the Schwartz system.. What I see is the complete opposite.. I see guys out of position,,, Lost and gassed out by the 2nd quarter.. Rutenberg better get it together or Jason Tarver needs to take over... Thats who I wanted to get the gig.. He's paid his dues.

    @nickers said:

    So far I'm not one bit impressed with Rutenberg... This passive sit and wait zone bullshit has to stop.. We were sold a bill of goods thinking we would run anything like the Schwartz system.. What I see is the complete opposite.. I see guys out of position,,, Lost and gassed out by the 2nd quarter.. Rutenberg better get it together or Jason Tarver needs to take over... Thats who I wanted to get the gig.. He's paid his dues.

    Man to man coverage with a lack of pass rush is easier said than done.

    A pass-rushing DE needs to be a priority this coming off-season. Verse is a solid all-around DE, but he's a great complement IMO, not a stud pass rusher.

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  • OrionO Orion

    @hoorta said:

    And scored 3 points- until garbage time.

    The thing I wanted/want this year is for our QB's to have no excuses. But I'm about to make some:

    We couldn't run the ball. Watson was our leading rusher. (Don't worry, it's only a matter of time before the backup QB is in the game. Watson will get hurt while running with the ball) We NEED the running game to take some pressure off of the passing game. That kinda' points to our newly revamped OL. And with the amount of play Watson has had in the last 3 years it might not be absurd to think that it may take a little time to catch back up to the speed of the live games.

    We have a new HC. He's got a ton of NFL experience. He's got pretty much a clean slate right now. (though he should've called TO on 3rd & 2 near the opponent's goal line) And he thinks that Watson is the best QB we have right now. So, I've gotta trust him for now.

    @orion said:

    The thing I wanted/want this year is for our QB's to have no excuses. But I'm about to make some:

    We couldn't run the ball. Watson was our leading rusher. (Don't worry, it's only a matter of time before the backup QB is in the game. Watson will get hurt while running with the ball) We NEED the running game to take some pressure off of the passing game. That kinda' points to our newly revamped OL. And with the amount of play Watson has had in the last 3 years it might not be absurd to think that it may take a little time to catch back up to the speed of the live games.

    We have a new HC. He's got a ton of NFL experience. He's got pretty much a clean slate right now. (though he should've called TO on 3rd & 2 near the opponent's goal line) And he thinks that Watson is the best QB we have right now. So, I've gotta trust him for now.

    Our new HC is nuts- someone said "It's Monken er Monkey time." Go ahead, keep trotting this bum out until the season is over after a few more weeks. Yep #32 out of 32 starting QBs after week one. Per NFL.com Count me not surprised.

    Deshaun Watson's numbers lied to you. He looked just as slow to make decisions as he did in the preseason, was consistently inaccurate (especially when unsettled by the pass rush), threw an awful interception on his third attempt of the season, ran himself into pressures with remarkably deep pass drops and generally played like a quarterback who hadn't seen regular-season action in two years. Todd Monken told reporters he found plenty to like in Watson's tape, ?but the only example I can support was his downfield shot to rookie Denzel Boston for a touchdown in garbage time. I think Week 2 might be his last shot to prove he's still worth rostering -- that is, unless Monken stubbornly keeps rolling with him.

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @nickers said:

    So far I'm not one bit impressed with Rutenberg... This passive sit and wait zone bullshit has to stop.. We were sold a bill of goods thinking we would run anything like the Schwartz system.. What I see is the complete opposite.. I see guys out of position,,, Lost and gassed out by the 2nd quarter.. Rutenberg better get it together or Jason Tarver needs to take over... Thats who I wanted to get the gig.. He's paid his dues.

    Man to man coverage with a lack of pass rush is easier said than done.

    A pass-rushing DE needs to be a priority this coming off-season. Verse is a solid all-around DE, but he's a great complement IMO, not a stud pass rusher.

    @dutch-oven said:

    Man to man coverage with a lack of pass rush is easier said than done.

    A pass-rushing DE needs to be a priority this coming off-season. Verse is a solid all-around DE, but he's a great complement IMO, not a stud pass rusher.

    No question about that but on one hand I don't think he's chopped liver either... Is he Garrett?... Hell no but he's still one of the best out there... But asking guys who aren't zone corners to play a ton of zone is risky business.. Getting a couple guys back healthy would be helpful, yes... And I agree DE and Oline should be priority with next years draft beside what QB is gonna lead this sorry ass franchise... I think we can agree that dude isn't on the roster yet....

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • nickersN nickers

    So far I'm not one bit impressed with Rutenberg... This passive sit and wait zone bullshit has to stop.. We were sold a bill of goods thinking we would run anything like the Schwartz system.. What I see is the complete opposite.. I see guys out of position,,, Lost and gassed out by the 2nd quarter.. Rutenberg better get it together or Jason Tarver needs to take over... Thats who I wanted to get the gig.. He's paid his dues.

    @nickers said:

    So far I'm not one bit impressed with Rutenberg... This passive sit and wait zone bullshit has to stop..

    On Lawrence's 1st 3 throws, including the touchdown, 2 of them were man coverage and only 1 was man match. I haven't had a chance to chart all the vision match zones, but these are defenses that are successful at the highest levels of the NFL (Vic Fangio and beyond)

    So man got us burnt early and often because of Jacksonville's clever use of spacing in their motions.

    This team plays little "zone" coverage (spot drop) as most of you here would understand it. That really isn't how most zones function in the modern NFL.

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    If you're interested in seeing more of the game, you're welcomed to join us.

    Hey, friends. We'll be having one of our community, All-22 film reviews tonight, at 8:15PM EST on the RT9 discord.

    discord.gg/bJjgqBjJq

    We'll be taking a live, 'rough draft' viewing of the Browns defense vs the Jaguars ; under new DC, Mike Rutenberg and doing some play charting along the way.

    This is hosted like a virtual classroom - nothing is needed of you. Join the channel, click on the screen share and that's it.

    See you then!

  • Watching the Bills game at their new stadium and it’s fantastic to see them playing on real grass.

    I think overall we will have the superior stadium, but I will never get used to seeing the Browns playing on fake turf.

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