The Official Browns at Buccaneers Game 2 Thread
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This buys Watson another start for sure. He played well enough today and the D helped him more than the 1st game.
This buys Watson another start for sure. He played well enough today and the D helped him more than the 1st game.
Well, I'm shocked, I say. Watson looked like a semi competent starting NFL QB. And the defense played very well. Watson bought himself another start, but he will never be loved in Browns fandom. Play like crap this coming Sunday expect a chorus of boos.
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This buys Watson another start for sure. He played well enough today and the D helped him more than the 1st game.
I can't believe I'm writing this:
He actually deserves to start next week. Nothing I think about him personally or long-term has changed, but on the field, he played well.
I can't believe I'm writing this:
He actually deserves to start next week. Nothing I think about him personally or long-term has changed, but on the field, he played well.
If the O-line had given him decent protection, especially in the first half, this may even have been a comfortable win.
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I can't believe I'm writing this:
He actually deserves to start next week. Nothing I think about him personally or long-term has changed, but on the field, he played well.
If the O-line had given him decent protection, especially in the first half, this may even have been a comfortable win.
If the O-line had given him decent protection, especially in the first half, this may even have been a comfortable win.
He also threw an absolute dime to Boston in the endzone in the third quarter that the defender made a great play to knock the ball out on a fade pass
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I'm happy that we beat Tampa Bay. I'm happy that Baker didn't throw for 400 yards & 4TD's. This way we don't have to put up with the Baker Bro Talking Heads, or The Baker Bro Browns Fans, or the Watson Hater Browns Fans / Talking Heads. We don't have to listen to any of that bull-shit. We can instead enjoy a win and look towards the home opener with just the slightest bit of hope.
I'd like to see our OL improve / gel / whatever, so that Judkins can have a nice game and get some love. I swear that he's a good RB that just does not get the kind of OLine help that other RB's are getting.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Here’s the highlights.
Watson was downright terrific today. More please.
The TD by Boston was the stuff of legend. He bounced 3 would be defenders on the way to the end zone.
How about Denzel Ward? Too soon to talk HOF? No one even throws his way, and they got him sprinting off the edge on opposing field goal tries now? Hats off Denzel.
I only got to watch the highlights, but our center looked good. Elgton Jenkins, but it’s Mr. Jenkins to you.
Szmyt might be the first kicker l have confidence in after 1+ years on the team. I’ll admit l had a crush on Hopkins for a minute. The mighty Phil Dawson is the gold standard.
Bahr and Stover get big love. Lou Groza too, before my time.
Peanuts are legumes
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Watson played well today.. He had one great game against the Rats in the past.. But consistency will be key going forward.. Next week we play the Panthers here at home and they just absolutely drubbed the Falcons who are 0-2.. 34-3. Let's see if Mr. Rub n Tugs can do it twice... Because I think next weeks defense (Carolina) will be a little tougher and more disciplined..
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Hickman & Delpit each had a sack. There's no Myles Garrett, so you've got to try and create sacks. Graham had a crap luck sack.
Here he is, going in the wrong direction....but he gets the sack
This was a delightful win.
We can't run. There's no holes. But the D played better. Which kept us in the game. And our QB position played better...actually bringing the offense down the field for the go ahead TD late in the 4th quarter. Go figure.
It was good to see improvement over last week. Some will say, Well THAT was a low bar! Which it was, but we had absolutely NO reason to think we'd do any better. So, it really is quite a nice step forward. Now, we need the OL to play better. Perhaps DeWand Jones at RT might help??
Hickman & Delpit each had a sack. There's no Myles Garrett, so you've got to try and create sacks. Graham had a crap luck sack.
Here he is, going in the wrong direction....but he gets the sack
This was a delightful win.
We can't run. There's no holes. But the D played better. Which kept us in the game. And our QB position played better...actually bringing the offense down the field for the go ahead TD late in the 4th quarter. Go figure.
It was good to see improvement over last week. Some will say, Well THAT was a low bar! Which it was, but we had absolutely NO reason to think we'd do any better. So, it really is quite a nice step forward. Now, we need the OL to play better. Perhaps DeWand Jones at RT might help??
I'll slightly disagee with "we can't run" - only because there were a few good runs by Judkins mixed into the frustrating inconsistency otherwise. I like your idea of considering Dawand Jones at RT if struggles continue off-tackle/outside (never thought I'd say this til he showed up in shape this year). Having said that, my memory of how he did in the pre-season eludes me. ANOTHER thought is giving the better athlete (Barber) the RT job and remembering Tytus Howard started games at OG and OT for Houston so that could be a more suitable niche for the former 1st round pick as depicted in cut and paste.
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I'm happy that we beat Tampa Bay. I'm happy that Baker didn't throw for 400 yards & 4TD's. This way we don't have to put up with the Baker Bro Talking Heads, or The Baker Bro Browns Fans, or the Watson Hater Browns Fans / Talking Heads. We don't have to listen to any of that bull-shit. We can instead enjoy a win and look towards the home opener with just the slightest bit of hope.
I'd like to see our OL improve / gel / whatever, so that Judkins can have a nice game and get some love. I swear that he's a good RB that just does not get the kind of OLine help that other RB's are getting.
I'm happy that we beat Tampa Bay. I'm happy that Baker didn't throw for 400 yards & 4TD's. This way we don't have to put up with the Baker Bro Talking Heads, or The Baker Bro Browns Fans, or the Watson Hater Browns Fans / Talking Heads. We don't have to listen to any of that bull-shit. We can instead enjoy a win and look towards the home opener with just the slightest bit of hope.
I'd like to see our OL improve / gel / whatever, so that Judkins can have a nice game and get some love. I swear that he's a good RB that just does not get the kind of OLine help that other RB's are getting.
Extremely well said!
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Watson played well today.. He had one great game against the Rats in the past.. But consistency will be key going forward.. Next week we play the Panthers here at home and they just absolutely drubbed the Falcons who are 0-2.. 34-3. Let's see if Mr. Rub n Tugs can do it twice... Because I think next weeks defense (Carolina) will be a little tougher and more disciplined..
Watson played well today.. He had one great game against the Rats in the past.. But consistency will be key going forward.. Next week we play the Panthers here at home and they just absolutely drubbed the Falcons who are 0-2.. 34-3. Let's see if Mr. Rub n Tugs can do it twice... Because I think next weeks defense (Carolina) will be a little tougher and more disciplined..
Carolina gave up 59 points (per souce below) in their opener so I hope we see that version instead of the one that graciously accepted all Stefanski's gifts yesterday.
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Watson played well today.. He had one great game against the Rats in the past.. But consistency will be key going forward.. Next week we play the Panthers here at home and they just absolutely drubbed the Falcons who are 0-2.. 34-3. Let's see if Mr. Rub n Tugs can do it twice... Because I think next weeks defense (Carolina) will be a little tougher and more disciplined..
Carolina gave up 59 points (per souce below) in their opener so I hope we see that version instead of the one that graciously accepted all Stefanski's gifts yesterday.
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This buys Watson another start for sure. He played well enough today and the D helped him more than the 1st game.
Well, I'm shocked, I say. Watson looked like a semi competent starting NFL QB. And the defense played very well. Watson bought himself another start, but he will never be loved in Browns fandom. Play like crap this coming Sunday expect a chorus of boos.
Well, I'm shocked, I say. Watson looked like a semi competent starting NFL QB. And the defense played very well. Watson bought himself another start, but he will never be loved in Browns fandom. Play like crap this coming Sunday expect a chorus of boos.
It's Cleveland so all I care about at this point is if Watson can give us more watchable football. We're not spoiled here; so if he can't - they'll still be auditioning the other QBs they brought here. Last I knew, Watson narrowed his search of finalists down to NOT including Cleveland. Jimmy didn't take no for an answer so here we are...
Just this weekend, I'm reading Jimmy only has eyes for Arch Manning in the next draft. Hoping like crazy here the criteria exceeds Jimmy has a nice on-going close friendship with Peyton Manning & that entire family... Peyton looks like the ONLY QB Jimmy ever got right; and yet UT still went 0 for Florida - and didn't win the National Championship until the year after Peyton left (with Tee Martin playing QB). Not that winning the Natty assures NFL success for a QB; but it sure did sweeten the attaction of Kosar up and over just the local hometown hero thing. I adored him and Sipe...
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selecting a number 1 pic this long before the draft is stupid
Everyone seems to forget about Anhdrew Berry : THE GM 1 ?
it'a only one game....
the Browns have a lot to prove and a very long season ahead
selecting a number 1 pic this long before the draft is stupid
Everyone seems to forget about Anhdrew Berry : THE GM 1 ?
it'a only one game....
the Browns have a lot to prove and a very long season ahead
It’s browns fans. It can not be helped.
With some time, the fans will realize we have a genius GM, and they will also realize why they are fans, and not working in the front office.
This team is loaded with talent, and is also the second youngest team in NFL next to Miami. (25.5 years avg vs 25)
There is no way a first rounder will be wasted on a QB in next years draft. We are lucky to have Sanders as a back up QB.
It’s time to stop obsessing over QBs in next years draft. Those days are over.
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selecting a number 1 pic this long before the draft is stupid
Everyone seems to forget about Anhdrew Berry : THE GM 1 ?
it'a only one game....
the Browns have a lot to prove and a very long season ahead
It’s browns fans. It can not be helped.
With some time, the fans will realize we have a genius GM, and they will also realize why they are fans, and not working in the front office.
This team is loaded with talent, and is also the second youngest team in NFL next to Miami. (25.5 years avg vs 25)
There is no way a first rounder will be wasted on a QB in next years draft. We are lucky to have Sanders as a back up QB.
It’s time to stop obsessing over QBs in next years draft. Those days are over.
There is no way a first rounder will be wasted on a QB in next years draft. We are lucky to have Sanders as a back up QB.
It’s time to stop obsessing over QBs in next years draft. Those days are over.
You failed miserably to remember who the owner is and how he always obsesses over QB's. Arch is coming ready or not.
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In honor of Boston’s TD.
In honor of Boston’s TD.
>I always called this, Dolly Parton's Theme Song.
Heaven is a better place with you there Dolly. And Earth is a better place for having had you here. -
There is no way a first rounder will be wasted on a QB in next years draft. We are lucky to have Sanders as a back up QB.
It’s time to stop obsessing over QBs in next years draft. Those days are over.
You failed miserably to remember who the owner is and how he always obsesses over QB's. Arch is coming ready or not.
You failed miserably to remember who the owner is and how he always obsesses over QB's. Arch is coming ready or not.
The same way I failed miserably to predict the outcome of this game.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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I'm happy that we beat Tampa Bay. I'm happy that Baker didn't throw for 400 yards & 4TD's. This way we don't have to put up with the Baker Bro Talking Heads, or The Baker Bro Browns Fans, or the Watson Hater Browns Fans / Talking Heads. We don't have to listen to any of that bull-shit. We can instead enjoy a win and look towards the home opener with just the slightest bit of hope.
I'd like to see our OL improve / gel / whatever, so that Judkins can have a nice game and get some love. I swear that he's a good RB that just does not get the kind of OLine help that other RB's are getting.
I'm happy that we beat Tampa Bay. I'm happy that Baker didn't throw for 400 yards & 4TD's. This way we don't have to put up with the Baker Bro Talking Heads, or The Baker Bro Browns Fans, or the Watson Hater Browns Fans / Talking Heads. We don't have to listen to any of that bull-shit. We can instead enjoy a win and look towards the home opener with just the slightest bit of hope.
I'd like to see our OL improve / gel / whatever, so that Judkins can have a nice game and get some love. I swear that he's a good RB that just does not get the kind of OLine help that other RB's are getting.
At least we dont have the steelers O line....now that is bad
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Re: the OL
I'm seeing a bit of mismatch between Coaching Philosophy/preference and personnel. Not all that dissimilar to what I was concerned about with the DL & LB's coming into the season.
Dating back to his time with Georiga and all the way through with Baltimore, coach Monk is been a heavily invested gap-focused play caller in the run game. I'm watching how this OL executes and maintains gap/down/power and I'm not liking it. Where the OL has their better moments are when we work off vertical zones. I don't think the running game issues are solely to blame on QJ or the QB situation, I think we're run into a wall of what our OL's strengths are (their feet) and their weakness (lateral displacement with technique and sheer force)
The nice part is that it's fixable - to an extent. There are a lot of vertical/inside zone structures that can be installed to hit in sort of, what I can only call a 'gap fashion'. Especially against teams that run a lot of odd/mint/tite fronts. I'm of the mind Coach Monk and the rest of the offensive play staff need to start considering IZ as their running game foundation sooner rather than later. That will help create lateral displacement and that vertical separation in the running game we just aren't getting right now with sustainability.
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