Final: Steelers (6-2) 27, Browns (5-3) 6 · Week 8

Dutch Oven

@Orion It’s fucking cal.

He’s a 75 year old toddler with paper thin skin. Every single game the Browns lose he will come on here and post word salad nonsense with OUR QB IS STUPID and I wish we had fill-in-the-blank white QB instead. Then he’ll mention how poor Baker was treated by people on this board FIVE years ago, and he’ll burst into tears over other grievances he has because he has ovaries.

Orion

@Korsou-Dawg said:
And if we want to win, we need to improve the other areas you mentioned too.

I think Berry and Co know this. Watson is our sacrificial QB this season.

Berry worked out a couple of LB's a week or so ago. He knows we're thin there. And I think he guessed that teams might start to try and run on us with us running so much man to man D. Which is what we kinda' have to do because we sucked at zone D at the start of the season. And although we brought in multiple TE's via the draft and FA, we're playing with only Fannin & Whitehurst. And they're not the greatest at helping the OL block for the run. And although our OL is all new, it's not improved much over last year's pathetic OL..although Fano & Zion aren't doing bad on the left side.

We're going to have to figure out how to stop the run because the Titans & Steelers have shown what to do against us. Our back 7 began biting on anything that looked remotely like a run, allowing the Steelers TE's to wind up with 129 yards. I mean, that's what being able to run can do for your pass offense.

Dutch Oven

Speaking of stopping the run, I wonder how healthy Mason Graham is. He’s been pretty invisible since coming back

calfoxwc

@tiamat63 said:
QBR is a pretty garbage stat, just FYI.

your belligerent arrogance is garbage. I posted about twatson's history everywhere of
being slow to read, holding onto the ball too long. A lot of folks are saying it, folks who know football and aren't too arrogant to
really understand what they are seeing. People who are more mature, and smarter.

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2026/11/how-deshaun-watson-contributed-to-his-8-sacks-vs-the-steelers-leads-the-nfl-with-33-and-wont-make-it-through-the-season-at-this-clip-mary-kay-cabot.html

Browns' Loss to Steelers Confirms One Undeniable Truth ...

"However, one thing really stood out above all else as the Browns now attempt to gather themselves for a third road trip in as many weeks: Deshaun Watson cannot be the team's quarterback in 2027 and beyond.
Listen, everyone can reasonably accept that Cleveland's latest rebuild endeavour might take more than one year after the club replaced head coach Kevin Stefanski with Todd Monken, even if the Browns have hit multiple home runs on two straight draft classes.
But one thing has become evident after Week 8's disappointing outing, one that included eight sacks on Watson: the Browns will need another quarterback to complete this comeback.
Now, the offensive line was going to be a work in progress throughout the year. Watson wasn't. At least that's what the team has been telling us repeatedly since he was inserted into a two-way competition for the starting job, and then again when he was designated winner of said competition over Shedeur Sanders.
Watson's experience would help mitigate some of the issues that naturally arise on a budding young team. And an offensive line with five new starters, including two rookies playing out of their most recent college spots was going to need all the help it could get.
It's getting zilch out of Watson.
Because Watson plays the position in a similar way as he does his pressers, he lacks general awareness of what's going on around him. That commonly leads to dropbacks out of the shotgun where Watson ends up with 11 to 13 yards of depth, which in turn leads to the tackles getting beat constantly."

Roberto Shenanigans on X: "Watch Tytus Howard throw up his arms several times out of frustration. Watson takes a 7-step drop out of the shotgun. At the top of his drop he is 13 yards from the line of scrimmage. It's impossible to block the edges when a QB does this."

Roberto Shenanigans@Rob_Shenanigans
Watch Tytus Howard throw up his arms several times out of frustration. Watson takes a 7-step drop out of the shotgun. At the top of his drop he is 13 yards from the line of scrimmage. It's impossible to block the edges when a QB does this.

4 hours ago — Out of Watson's eight sacks on Sunday, at least five of them came on plays where Watson's deep dropback contributed to the outcome. On at ...

https://x.com/Rob_Shenanigans/status/2117455921420869776/video/1

"Out of Watson's eight sacks on Sunday, at least five of them came on plays where Watson's deep dropback contributed to the outcome. On at least three of those sacks, he had more than 2.5 seconds to get rid of the ball, and he didn't.
Another consequence of Watson's deep dropbacks is that tackles are then forced to hold defenders in order to avoid a hit on the passer. That happened at least a couple of times against Pittsburgh on Sunday.
And to make things worse, Watson's tendency to drop back so deep is so easily detectable, that you could see the Steelers' edge rushers pinning their ears back and targeting that range around 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage because they knew that's where they would find the quarterback.
Watson didn't actually trim his dropback and speed up his delivery until about six minutes remaining in the fourth quarter. Even so, he was still sacked a couple more times, with Watson feeling outside pressure and then stepping into the sack on the inside.
But Watson's issues go further than just making life miserable for his tackles. He also had two grossly overthrown passes, two one-hoppers, and two passes batted down at the line of scrimmage as part of a performance that did, however, manage to cover up some of the blunders with plenty of garbage-time yards."
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that is from this guy:
Rafael Zamorano (Sports Journalist and Writer)

Role / Occupation: Football and NFL journalist and editor with over two decades of experience. [1, 2]
Associated Platforms: Covers the NFL and college football for outlets including Sports Illustrated (Browns On SI), BIGPLAY, and NFL.com. He previously served as an NFL editor and columnist for ESPN México / ESPN Deportes from September 2007 to April 2025. [1, 2, 3, 4]

calfoxwc

of course, Tiam, you blame the offensive line to protect your hero twatson. But you "know football" so you think the offensive line forced twatson to take a seven step drop out of the shotgun. wow.

"Watch Tytus Howard throw up his arms several times out of frustration. Watson takes a 7-step drop out of the shotgun. At the top of his drop he is 13 yards from the line of scrimmage. It's impossible to block the edges when a QB does this."

Dutch Oven

I wonder why cal is so worked up tonight?

tiamat63

Yeah nobody's reading a sundowning rant.

Good for you. Or good luck with that, depending on how it was.

Orion

@Dutch-Oven said:
Speaking of stopping the run, I wonder how healthy Mason Graham is. He’s been pretty invisible since coming back

Yeah, he can't be 100%.

tiamat63

@Orion said:
Yeah, he can't be 100%.

I don't think he is 100%. That said, so much of what the Steelers did was built to nullify the IDL. Trap, DUO, Toss off Pin & Pin

calfoxwc

Tiam translation:
"I demand to be the local football expert that looks good in a fairy princess halloween costume"

tiamat63

@calfoxwc said:
Tiam translation:
"I demand to be the local football expert that looks good in a fairy princess halloween costume"

Jokes on you, we both know I wouldn't look that magical in that outfit.

calfoxwc

@tiamat63 said:
Jokes on you, we both know I wouldn't look that magical in that outfit.

You probably shouldn't eat all that candy you got. Hope you didn't step on any trick or treat kids, or break anyone's porch.