Is He or Isn't He?
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@shepwrite said:
I said very publicly backing McCain in the Year of Obama did not endear Quinn to many of his teammates. It isn't a matter of right and wrong. More than a few pundits pointed out that it wasn't popular in the locker room and that's why most pro athletes keep their politics private.his support of the old white man instead of the cool black dude probably had something to do with it.
but also keep in mind that Quinn is an arrogant prick as well, which has more to do with it.
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it's there if you squint your eyes right: The offense does look better with Anderson at the helm.
no squinting needed. It is pretty much pasted on a billboard bigger than Jerry Jones' plasma TV screens. The key is just don't listen to the Frye Guys and BQ Fags who've harped on passer rating for the last 3 years like it actually means jack shit.
someone pointed out that Quinn's rating vs the Vikings was very similar in passer rating to Anderson's vs the Bengals. That fact is probably the biggest indictment on the passer rating system as there is...Well that and the fact that Charlie Frye's rating was actually good because of his comp%.
no squinting needed.
someone pointed out that Quinn's rating vs the Vikings was very similar in passer rating to Anderson's vs the Bengals. That fact is probably the biggest indictment on the passer rating system as there is...Well that and the fact that Charlie Frye's rating was actually good because of his comp%.
Quinn faced the NFL's #3 defense while Anderson faced the NFL's # 18th defense.
You make a good point, the numbers dont lie.
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it's there if you squint your eyes right: The offense does look better with Anderson at the helm.
no squinting needed. It is pretty much pasted on a billboard bigger than Jerry Jones' plasma TV screens. The key is just don't listen to the Frye Guys and BQ Fags who've harped on passer rating for the last 3 years like it actually means jack shit.
someone pointed out that Quinn's rating vs the Vikings was very similar in passer rating to Anderson's vs the Bengals. That fact is probably the biggest indictment on the passer rating system as there is...Well that and the fact that Charlie Frye's rating was actually good because of his comp%.
no squinting needed. It is pretty much pasted on a billboard bigger than Jerry Jones' plasma TV screens. The key is just don't listen to the Frye Guys and BQ Fags who've harped on passer rating for the last 3 years like it actually means jack shit.
someone pointed out that Quinn's rating vs the Vikings was very similar in passer rating to Anderson's vs the Bengals. That fact is probably the biggest indictment on the passer rating system as there is...Well that and the fact that Charlie Frye's rating was actually good because of his comp%.
And DA's is generally low because of his horrid comp%.
Once again, did the Cleveland Browns win a game yesterday?
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@shepwrite said:
I said very publicly backing McCain in the Year of Obama did not endear Quinn to many of his teammates. It isn't a matter of right and wrong. More than a few pundits pointed out that it wasn't popular in the locker room and that's why most pro athletes keep their politics private.his support of the old white man instead of the cool black dude probably had something to do with it.
but also keep in mind that Quinn is an arrogant prick as well, which has more to do with it.
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no squinting needed.
someone pointed out that Quinn's rating vs the Vikings was very similar in passer rating to Anderson's vs the Bengals. That fact is probably the biggest indictment on the passer rating system as there is...Well that and the fact that Charlie Frye's rating was actually good because of his comp%.
Quinn faced the NFL's #3 defense while Anderson faced the NFL's # 18th defense.
You make a good point, the numbers dont lie.
Quinn faced the NFL's #3 defense while Anderson faced the NFL's # 18th defense.
The D's Quinn played are rated high because they played Quinn.
Rivers put up 436 yards on Baltimore.
Quinn put up 34 yards.
case closed.
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Stan, STOP thanking yourself,
That was dumb. The Chargers offense is one of the more prolific offenses
in recent years. Actually, that was worse than dumb, it was ridiculous.
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QB order
#1 Anderson
#2 Ratliff
#3 Cribbs
#55 Quinn
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The D's Quinn played are rated high because they played Quinn.
Rivers put up 436 yards on Baltimore.
Quinn put up 34 yards.
case closed.
You really didn't just post that. Yeah, BALT has a aweful D. I mean by your logic, DA should have had 200 yards at least in his half against BALT.
Meanwhile that vaunted Cincy D allowed Kyle Orton put up 243 yards on Cincy in only 28 ATT, completed 60% of his passes, 8.7 Y/A and didn't turn the ball over against Cicny.
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@shepwrite said:
No. It was actually very accurate. You just don't like it.I never said I think Quinn is a racist. You and T SAID I said it, which isn't the same. You're just doing your Glenn Beck imitation... and nobody likes Glenn Beck outside of your small circle of inbreds.
I said very publicly backing McCain in the Year of Obama did not endear Quinn to many of his teammates. It isn't a matter of right and wrong. More than a few pundits pointed out that it wasn't popular in the locker room and that's why most pro athletes keep their politics private.
Well, the way the Browns have been playing, I wouldn't be surprised if his anti h@mo rant got him into trouble with the rest of the players.
PS Come on back to the Politics Board.
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FWIW, Shep, your comment was the s-t-r-e-t-c-h of the century.
I disagree. Obviously, Quinn's got a right to express his opinion, but the issue is whether it was a tactful decision on his part.
If you're Mike Tomlin, you can endorse Obama. If you're Peyton Manning, you can endorse McCain. But if you're the backup QB waiting for your chance to play and win over the locker room, you probably shouldn't be wading into anything as divisive as politics. Even without the racial element, his endorsing a candidate could have brought up some "Who does he think he is?" grumbles in the locker room. After all, Joe Thomas was then and is a Pro Bowler; Quinn hadn't even started a game.
Many of you may disagree, but I don't think it was a smart move on Quinn's part.
I disagree. Obviously, Quinn's got a right to express his opinion, but the issue is whether it was a tactful decision on his part.
If you're Mike Tomlin, you can endorse Obama. If you're Peyton Manning, you can endorse McCain. But if you're the backup QB waiting for your chance to play and win over the locker room, you probably shouldn't be wading into anything as divisive as politics. Even without the racial element, his endorsing a candidate could have brought up some "Who does he think he is?" grumbles in the locker room. After all, Joe Thomas was then and is a Pro Bowler; Quinn hadn't even started a game.
Many of you may disagree, but I don't think it was a smart move on Quinn's part.
You're a good guy, Alo but your post is 100% BS.
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The D's Quinn played are rated high because they played Quinn.
Rivers put up 436 yards on Baltimore.
Quinn put up 34 yards.
case closed.
You really didn't just post that. Yeah, BALT has a aweful D. I mean by your logic, DA should have had 200 yards at least in his half against BALT.
Meanwhile that vaunted Cincy D allowed Kyle Orton put up 243 yards on Cincy in only 28 ATT, completed 60% of his passes, 8.7 Y/A and didn't turn the ball over against Cicny.
Masters said:
Meanwhile that vaunted Cincy D allowed Kyle Orton put up 243 yards on Cincy in only 28 ATT, completed 60% of his passes, 8.7 Y/A and didn't turn the ball over against Cicny.I assume you realize that 87 of Orton's yards came on that one batted ball at the end.
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Masters said:
Meanwhile that vaunted Cincy D allowed Kyle Orton put up 243 yards on Cincy in only 28 ATT, completed 60% of his passes, 8.7 Y/A and didn't turn the ball over against Cicny.I assume you realize that 87 of Orton's yards came on that one batted ball at the end.
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Could you imagine had Lums called Quinn a racist how much Shep and Company would be up in arms?
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Except Shep didn't say, all but say, or anything close that Quinn was a racist. You have to go looking for that to get that out of what Shep said, and that says more about the reader than poster.
Masters said:
Except Shep didn't say, all but say, or anything close that Quinn was a racist. You have to go looking for that to get that out of what Shep said, and that says more about the reader than poster.Yeah, and when I've called someone gay in the past, I wasn't referring to them as homosexuals, just that they were a little too happy.
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Masters said:
Except Shep didn't say, all but say, or anything close that Quinn was a racist. You have to go looking for that to get that out of what Shep said, and that says more about the reader than poster.Yeah, and when I've called someone gay in the past, I wasn't referring to them as homosexuals, just that they were a little too happy.
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@shepwrite said:
John, I'm sorry... but you're just 100% dead wrong on this. There's not a microscopic shred of wrong in what I typed. Let it go.I wasn't talking to you, Shep.
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This question was answered long ago. DA has already shown that he can not get it done and when under pressure will fold like a house of cards. He has regressed ever since he had a nice 5-6 game streak against sub par teams. After that he sucked bad. Don't have short term memory loss.
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@shepwrite said:
Again, you keep misstating the (very correct) point because it bugs you. There were MULTIPLE reports that Quinn and Thomas openly stumping for McCain didn't endear them to the mostly black locker room that was feeling very passionate about Obama. It isn't even about liberals (most pro athletes lean conservative but aren't very political in general).Again, it isn't about right or wrong and nobody said they hated either guy. It just went over like a lead balloon at a time when African Americans felt a lot of pride for Obama and McCain/Palin was starting to go ugly (with the pitchfork rallies and all).
Is what it is.
You have a habit of stating things like absolute fact. I'd like a link where multiple Browns had a problem with who someone supported for POTUS, especially since you were entrenched on this issue on the Obama side. I think you get away with a dozen or so of these kinds of fairytales a year on this board. Throw up a link.
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it's there if you squint your eyes right: The offense does look better with Anderson at the helm.
no squinting needed. It is pretty much pasted on a billboard bigger than Jerry Jones' plasma TV screens. The key is just don't listen to the Frye Guys and BQ Fags who've harped on passer rating for the last 3 years like it actually means jack shit.
someone pointed out that Quinn's rating vs the Vikings was very similar in passer rating to Anderson's vs the Bengals. That fact is probably the biggest indictment on the passer rating system as there is...Well that and the fact that Charlie Frye's rating was actually good because of his comp%.
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