The reinvention of eric mangini
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I have to strongly agree with Masters. While progress definitely was made (and it was VERY entertaining), how many times have we seen this in the past. One good game will not win championships. Consistency will. We need a team that brings the same quality play (like yesterday) every week. Not this once every 5 weeks stuff we've seen for the last umpteen years.
Although I love your winning mentality, we are talking about the Cleveland Browns right? Not your local pee-wee football team that you watch every saturday moring.
Why dont we try and win a game first. And then we can talk about back to back wins and then we can talk about playoffs and then we can talk about playoffs every year and the we can talk about going to the super bowl. We are at being competitive in the NFL first. And if you thought we were going to win a championship before this season then I see why your guys hopes are all shot to hell.
Until then I will get excited about our over 100 rusher that got good playing time and the 150 yard rookie WR and a QB that can actually move the ball and pick up first downs and get touchdowns and the D that did a way better job because they were not on the field for 59 minutes and 32 seconds and the fun of being in the game in the 4th quarter instead of staring at the T.V with this are you kidding me look while getting blown out and nothing to play for.
Until then I will get excited about our over 100 rusher that got good playing time and the 150 yard rookie WR and a QB that can actually move the ball and pick up first downs and get touchdowns and the D that did a way better job because they were not on the field for 59 minutes and 32 seconds and the fun of being in the game in the 4th quarter instead of staring at the T.V with this are you kidding me look while getting blown out and nothing to play for.
Take a breath! Jesus.
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How do you do that with crossing that stuff out? That is fukcing cool. I be dumb when it comes to computers.
Oh and what do they fool you on? We knew that we were bad every year before it starts and guess what? We are bad. Im not telling you to look at the glass half full because you are your own person but damn start looking at the glass half full.
I just figured it out after seeing other do it. Up in the tool bar next to bold, indent, and underline is "aA" drop down menu. Highlight what you want and select Strike Through.
Year in and year out of these moral victories, little pep talk speeches, etc., yet the results are continually the same after them. Loses and losing seasons. Let's just say over the last 9 years the Browns organization has drank and spilled all that was left in my glass. I was ready to be half-ful as with every season, but starting off the season as bad as the expansion year ended that. They need to start filling the glass again before I will get duped into thinking its half full.
Masters said:
I just figured it out after seeing other do it. Up in the tool bar next to bold, indent, and underline is "aA" drop down menu. Highlight what you want and select Strike Through.Year in and year out of these moral victories, little pep talk speeches, etc., yet the results are continually the same after them. Loses and losing seasons. Let's just say over the last 9 years the Browns organization has drank and spilled all that was left in my glass. I was ready to be half-ful as with every season, but starting off the season as bad as the expansion year ended that. They need to start filling the glass again before I will get duped into thinking its half full.
i am probably going to use this in everyone of my posts now Thanks.
I do hear ya. If it makes you feel any better I was born in 1982 and dont REALLY dont remember the the drive and the fumble. So I have never really expierenced a good team. Maybe a couple years in there 90's or something like that they were ok. And I still try and look at the glass half full.
Its like when you tell yourself your sick when you dont fell well then you will probably feel like shit. I see my son and when he throws up and you know he doesnt fell well but he doesnt know any better and he still is jumping around and playing like nothing happend. If that makes sense.
Thats what I think the problem is with our fans. Look at the positives and build on it. Our fans dont give our players, coach and team a chance. Just saying.
Oh and Quinn sucks thanks for teaching me that again. One day I will learn how to put a picture on here. Cause the copy and paste thing would be just to easy.
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Masters said:
I just figured it out after seeing other do it. Up in the tool bar next to bold, indent, and underline is "aA" drop down menu. Highlight what you want and select Strike Through.Year in and year out of these moral victories, little pep talk speeches, etc., yet the results are continually the same after them. Loses and losing seasons. Let's just say over the last 9 years the Browns organization has drank and spilled all that was left in my glass. I was ready to be half-ful as with every season, but starting off the season as bad as the expansion year ended that. They need to start filling the glass again before I will get duped into thinking its half full.
i am probably going to use this in everyone of my posts now Thanks.
I do hear ya. If it makes you feel any better I was born in 1982 and dont REALLY dont remember the the drive and the fumble. So I have never really expierenced a good team. Maybe a couple years in there 90's or something like that they were ok. And I still try and look at the glass half full.
Its like when you tell yourself your sick when you dont fell well then you will probably feel like shit. I see my son and when he throws up and you know he doesnt fell well but he doesnt know any better and he still is jumping around and playing like nothing happend. If that makes sense.
Thats what I think the problem is with our fans. Look at the positives and build on it. Our fans dont give our players, coach and team a chance. Just saying.
Oh and Quinn sucks thanks for teaching me that again. One day I will learn how to put a picture on here. Cause the copy and paste thing would be just to easy.
Thats what I think the problem is with our fans. Look at the positives and build on it. Our fans dont give our players, coach and team a chance. Just saying.
Oh, I'd disagree with you there. The fans have blindly done that for Palmer/Policy, then Davis, then RAC/Savage.
Oh, and for the picture, I believe it is the button 3 to the right from the strikethrough drop down
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Until then I will get excited about our over 100 rusher that got good playing time and the 150 yard rookie WR and a QB that can actually move the ball and pick up first downs and get touchdowns and the D that did a way better job because they were not on the field for 59 minutes and 32 seconds and the fun of being in the game in the 4th quarter instead of staring at the T.V with this are you kidding me look while getting blown out and nothing to play for.
Take a breath! Jesus.
Take a breath! Jesus.
I thought this was a football forum and didn't have to put periods, commas and shit. But no problem I will just for you.
I was trying to make a point with the and the and a and the and the and the. In case you didn't get it, it was me saying there were alot of positives.
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Its a fact that Lerner forced Mangini to start Quinn. It was a forgone conclusion before the season even started. Hell, Romeo told us in week 12 of last year that Quinn would be the starter for 2009, and he knew he wouldnt be here to make that call. Mangini did what the guy signing the checks told him to do. He gave Quinn his chance like Lerner wanted. This team didnt become Manginis until the Bengals game when Mangini could play his own line-up. As far as Im concerned Mangini is 0-1 as our coach. Lerner however is 0-3.
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Its a fact that Lerner forced Mangini to start Quinn. It was a forgone conclusion before the season even started. Hell, Romeo told us in week 12 of last year that Quinn would be the starter for 2009, and he knew he wouldnt be here to make that call. Mangini did what the guy signing the checks told him to do. He gave Quinn his chance like Lerner wanted. This team didnt become Manginis until the Bengals game when Mangini could play his own line-up. As far as Im concerned Mangini is 0-1 as our coach. Lerner however is 0-3.
Its a fact that Lerner forced Mangini to start Quinn.
I will have to presume that you do not know the definition of the word FACT.
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Thats what I think the problem is with our fans. Look at the positives and build on it. Our fans dont give our players, coach and team a chance. Just saying.
Oh, I'd disagree with you there. The fans have blindly done that for Palmer/Policy, then Davis, then RAC/Savage.
Oh, and for the picture, I believe it is the button 3 to the right from the strikethrough drop down
Masters said:
Oh, I'd disagree with you there. The fans have blindly done that for Palmer/Policy, then Davis, then RAC/Savage.Oh, and for the picture, I believe it is the button 3 to the right from the strikethrough drop down
Button 3 to the right from the strikethough drop down. Damn I told you I'm not bright with this. You lost me at Button.
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Masters said:
Oh, I'd disagree with you there. The fans have blindly done that for Palmer/Policy, then Davis, then RAC/Savage.Oh, and for the picture, I believe it is the button 3 to the right from the strikethrough drop down
Button 3 to the right from the strikethough drop down. Damn I told you I'm not bright with this. You lost me at Button.
Button 3 to the right from the strikethough drop down. Damn I told you I'm not bright with this. You lost me at Button.
Icon might have been a better choice of words.
Another way to look for it is below the Fonts drop down (when you move your cursor over it it will say insert image, and it looks like a picture).
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Button 3 to the right from the strikethough drop down. Damn I told you I'm not bright with this. You lost me at Button.
Icon might have been a better choice of words.
Another way to look for it is below the Fonts drop down (when you move your cursor over it it will say insert image, and it looks like a picture).
Masters said:
Icon might have been a better choice of words.Another way to look for it is below the Fonts drop down (when you move your cursor over it it will say insert image, and it looks like a picture).
Got it. Thanks my man.
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Masters said:
Icon might have been a better choice of words.Another way to look for it is below the Fonts drop down (when you move your cursor over it it will say insert image, and it looks like a picture).
Got it. Thanks my man.
Got it. Thanks my man.
Glad to help. I have had to blindly find them myself.
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Got it. Thanks my man.
Glad to help. I have had to blindly find them myself.
Masters said:
Glad to help. I have had to blindly find them myself.Alright back to arguing football talk.
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Masters, It was reported to be fact by Grossi and Cabbot in different articles. That fact enough for me. Now I wasnt there for Manginis interview with Lerner, but when you put Romeos, Cabbot, and Grossis words together with a pathetic Brady Quinn starting the season, the information supports their stories as fact as they reported.
And who the F*#! made you the Browns Boards editor and chief.
You sound like that crazy ass in Iran trying to explain away the holocaust. "How do you know the holocaust happened, this is not a fact its a made up story".
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Masters, It was reported to be fact by Grossi and Cabbot in different articles. That fact enough for me. Now I wasnt there for Manginis interview with Lerner, but when you put Romeos, Cabbot, and Grossis words together with a pathetic Brady Quinn starting the season, the information supports their stories as fact as they reported.
And who the F*#! made you the Browns Boards editor and chief.
You sound like that crazy ass in Iran trying to explain away the holocaust. "How do you know the holocaust happened, this is not a fact its a made up story".
Masters, It was reported to be fact by Grossi and Cabbot in different articles. That fact enough for me. Now I wasnt there for Manginis interview with Lerner, but when you put Romeos, Cabbot, and Grossis words together with a pathetic Brady Quinn starting the season, the information supports their stories as fact as they reported.
And who the F*#! made you the Browns Boards editor and chief.
You sound like that crazy ass in Iran trying to explain away the holocaust. "How do you know the holocaust happened, this is not a fact its a made up story".
Um, no it wasn't (speculation and fact are two different things. I have given the definition of both below for you, since you obviously need them). There have been zero reports stating Quinn starting was Lerners decision.
To date, there has been no verifyable reports, or even any with the infamous "unnamed source" stating that Quinn starting was Lerners decision.
Fact
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.
5. Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.
βIdioms6. after the fact, Law. after the commission of a crime: an accessory after the fact.
7. before the fact, Law. prior to the commission of a crime: an accessory before the fact.
8. in fact, actually; really; indeed: In fact, it was a wonder that anyone survived.
Speculation
1. the contemplation or consideration of some subject: to engage in speculation on humanity's ultimate destiny.
2. a single instance or process of consideration.
3. a conclusion or opinion reached by such contemplation: These speculations are impossible to verify.
4. conjectural consideration of a matter; conjecture or surmise: a report based on speculation rather than facts.
5. engagement in business transactions involving considerable risk but offering the chance of large gains, esp. trading in commodities, stocks, etc., in the hope of profit from changes in the market price.
6. a speculative commercial venture or undertaking.
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Masters, It was reported to be fact by Grossi and Cabbot in different articles. That fact enough for me. Now I wasnt there for Manginis interview with Lerner, but when you put Romeos, Cabbot, and Grossis words together with a pathetic Brady Quinn starting the season, the information supports their stories as fact as they reported.
And who the F*#! made you the Browns Boards editor and chief.
You sound like that crazy ass in Iran trying to explain away the holocaust. "How do you know the holocaust happened, this is not a fact its a made up story".
You sound like that crazy ass in Iran trying to explain away the holocaust. "How do you know the holocaust happened, this is not a fact its a made up story".
Apparently you don't understand how to use an analogy either, based on the above failed attempt.
Analogy
1. a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based: the analogy between the heart and a pump.
2. similarity or comparability: I see no analogy between your problem and mine.
3. Biology. an analogous relationship.
4. Linguistics. a. the process by which words or phrases are created or re-formed according to existing patterns in the language, as when shoon was re-formed as shoes, when -ize is added to nouns like winter to form verbs, or when a child says foots for feet.
b. a form resulting from such a process.
5. Logic. a form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects
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Would you guys make up your minds. I thought this was the worst hire in NFL history. How can he change his stripes so fast? Isn't this the asshole that fined guys for raiding the mini bars at hotels on their way out and not paying for them.
Oh, and the fine was after they were warned. But, hell that still makes him an asshole for trying to establish some rules and people follow them................even the superstars.
Are you sure this is a reinvention? Maybe it's just players starting to buy in and man up.
The invention is still under construction and the reinvention is next year.
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All you unsatisfied fans with no appreciation for PROGRESS are kidding yourselves.
Kind of like when we were satisfied with this under every other staff.
Sorry Vegas, but I have drank enough Kool-aid over the last 9 years. I am off the stuff.
Masters said:
Kind of like when we were satisfied with this under every other staff.Sorry Vegas, but I have drank enough Kool-aid over the last 9 years. I am off the stuff.
You just cannot compare regimes. This one has nothing to do with the last one. That's part of the problem with firing coaches; you have to start all over again. And as fans, we can only compare the four games of this year. You cannot go back any further than that. And so, with that as the barometer, we have made some progress and about 4 weeks sooner than I thought we would. I'm pleased. Still 5-11 is the best we should hope for.
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Masters said:
Kind of like when we were satisfied with this under every other staff.Sorry Vegas, but I have drank enough Kool-aid over the last 9 years. I am off the stuff.
You just cannot compare regimes. This one has nothing to do with the last one. That's part of the problem with firing coaches; you have to start all over again. And as fans, we can only compare the four games of this year. You cannot go back any further than that. And so, with that as the barometer, we have made some progress and about 4 weeks sooner than I thought we would. I'm pleased. Still 5-11 is the best we should hope for.
You just cannot compare regimes. This one has nothing to do with the last one. That's part of the problem with firing coaches; you have to start all over again. And as fans, we can only compare the four games of this year. You cannot go back any further than that. And so, with that as the barometer, we have made some progress and about 4 weeks sooner than I thought we would. I'm pleased. Still 5-11 is the best we should hope for.
So every year I should just forget everything I have ever seen of the Browns and heard from the various staffs
Again, if you want to drink the kool-aid again, have at it. But I am going to have to see real progress and wins before I get on board with this one. No matter how bad this team was when EM took over, it was not as bad talent wise as the 1999 expansion team, yet have done just as much/little as that team.
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Call me when we STOP somebody's, anybody's, an NFL 2 minute offense.
Thanks Masters for thing
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Call me when we STOP somebody's, anybody's, an NFL 2 minute offense.
Thanks Masters for thing
Call me when we STOP somebody's, anybody's, an NFL 2 minute offense.
Thanks Masters for thing
I try to contribute
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@planet-0range said:
And then we lost.No dude, and then YOU lost.
Yesterdays game was entertaining. I felt and heard the pulse of the fans as they streamed out of Cleveland Browns Stadium yesterday, stating that all they wanted at this point was a competitive game and to be in the game until the end. Baby-steps for a once proud franchise, but certainly reality in week #4.
The place wasn't packed as the club seats were only about 70% full, most other sections though were filled and all stayed until the end (or until Palmer broke the long run in over-time).
We got our monies worth yesterday, unlike week #1.
No dude, and then YOU lost.
Yesterdays game was entertaining. I felt and heard the pulse of the fans as they streamed out of Cleveland Browns Stadium yesterday, stating that all they wanted at this point was a competitive game and to be in the game until the end. Baby-steps for a once proud franchise, but certainly reality in week #4.
The place wasn't packed as the club seats were only about 70% full, most other sections though were filled and all stayed until the end (or until Palmer broke the long run in over-time).
We got our monies worth yesterday, unlike week #1.
Amen, brother. Amen.
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