Braylon Edwards Accused of Assault
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You left out Donte providing rides home.
Riding Shotgun has a whole new meaning
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I know everyone here is going to crucify Edwards but the way i see it - If i was 130 pounds lighter than any guy, I would trash talk to him esp @ 2:00in the morning when drunk at a bar. i would say the guy got what he deserved.
Yeah, forget that you are a high profile athlete facing a big pay day in free agency, and he is a skinny little 130lb bean counter ... pop him man, and have your homies drag you away.
That's cool.
Sorry, but that's not me. I do his wife.
Yeah, forget that you are a high profile athlete facing a big pay day in free agency, and he is a skinny little 130lb bean counter ... pop him man, and have your homies drag you away.
That's cool.
Sorry, but that's not me. I do his wife.
high profile athletes, low profile athlets ... @ the end we are only human.
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I know everyone here is going to crucify Edwards but the way i see it - If i was 130 pounds lighter than any guy, I would trash talk to him esp @ 2:00in the morning when drunk at a bar. i would say the guy got what he deserved.
I know everyone here is going to crucify Edwards but the way i see it - If i was 130 pounds lighter than any guy, I would trash talk to him esp @ 2:00in the morning when drunk at a bar. i would say the guy got what he deserved.
As the story goes, Edwards started the trash talking to begin with, not the other way around.
By your logic, if someone starts talking crap to you, and you decide to defend yourself, you should get punched
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Yeah, forget that you are a high profile athlete facing a big pay day in free agency, and he is a skinny little 130lb bean counter ... pop him man, and have your homies drag you away.
That's cool.
Sorry, but that's not me. I do his wife.
high profile athletes, low profile athlets ... @ the end we are only human.
high profile athletes, low profile athlets ... @ the end we are only human.
Yea but the question is don't superstars get to make live by different rules?
Maybe he was parking in the guys handicap spot? ooooopps, my bad, he only does that to the secretaries in Berea.
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Yeah, forget that you are a high profile athlete facing a big pay day in free agency, and he is a skinny little 130lb bean counter ... pop him man, and have your homies drag you away.
That's cool.
Sorry, but that's not me. I do his wife.
high profile athletes, low profile athlets ... @ the end we are only human.
high profile athletes, low profile athlets ... @ the end we are only human.
Just some more evolved than others (in this case, looking like BE is the less evolved one)
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I know everyone here is going to crucify Edwards but the way i see it - If i was 130 pounds lighter than any guy, I would trash talk to him esp @ 2:00in the morning when drunk at a bar. i would say the guy got what he deserved.
As the story goes, Edwards started the trash talking to begin with, not the other way around.
By your logic, if someone starts talking crap to you, and you decide to defend yourself, you should get punched
Masters said:
As the story goes, Edwards started the trash talking to begin with, not the other way around.By your logic, if someone starts talking crap to you, and you decide to defend yourself, you should get punched
According to Mr Givens quotes he coms and starts trash talking which i find strange .. why would someone all of a sudden come and start talking trash to a mr givens whom nobody has ever heard of ? There is more to this story than what is being reported for sure. I woul d rather wait for the police report to come out.
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high profile athletes, low profile athlets ... @ the end we are only human.
Just some more evolved than others (in this case, looking like BE is the less evolved one)
Masters said:
Just some more evolved than others (in this case, looking like BE is the less evolved one)So if 2 donkeys are fighting why care about the light weight one that got itself kicked ?
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Masters said:
As the story goes, Edwards started the trash talking to begin with, not the other way around.By your logic, if someone starts talking crap to you, and you decide to defend yourself, you should get punched
According to Mr Givens quotes he coms and starts trash talking which i find strange .. why would someone all of a sudden come and start talking trash to a mr givens whom nobody has ever heard of ? There is more to this story than what is being reported for sure. I woul d rather wait for the police report to come out.
According to Mr Givens quotes he coms and starts trash talking which i find strange .. why would someone all of a sudden come and start talking trash to a mr givens whom nobody has ever heard of ? There is more to this story than what is being reported for sure. I woul d rather wait for the police report to come out.
I don't find it strange, especially if BE has some issue w/ Lebron.
We are talking about BE who parked in a handicap spot and was classy enough to swat a basketball hard into Dana Jacobs face in a game for charity.
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Braylon "Brick hands" Edwards could learn a thing or two about professionalism from Mr. James.
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According to Mr Givens quotes he coms and starts trash talking which i find strange .. why would someone all of a sudden come and start talking trash to a mr givens whom nobody has ever heard of ? There is more to this story than what is being reported for sure. I woul d rather wait for the police report to come out.
I don't find it strange, especially if BE has some issue w/ Lebron.
We are talking about BE who parked in a handicap spot and was classy enough to swat a basketball hard into Dana Jacobs face in a game for charity.
Masters said:
I don't find it strange, especially if BE has some issue w/ Lebron.We are talking about BE who parked in a handicap spot and was classy enough to swat a basketball hard into Dana Jacobs face in a game for charity.
Dude these are minor misdemeanors. I dont think that is good enough for me to call it quits with BE. If he is going to be traded let it be for his lack of production or TO like team destruction , not cos he punched LeBron's friend in his face or something.
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Edwards is as good as gone at the end of this year anyway.
Don't trade him, don't waive him. Play him.
That's right. Play him. He's in a contract year and he's killing himself right now with his performances. Hopefully, he'll come to that realization and give this franchise a few more good games before he skips town.
And as far as LeBron goes, his comments on the story are another gallon of gas in Braylon's car ride out of town. Edwards' departure at the end of this season will be another addition by subtraction situation.
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Why doesn't BE just shoot himself in the leg at clubs like normal WRs???
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I'm not buying this yet.
You telling me the only think BE didn't drop Sunday was a 130lb guy?
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I'm not buying this yet.
You telling me the only think BE didn't drop Sunday was a 130lb guy?
I'm not buying this yet.
You telling me the only think BE didn't drop Sunday was a 130lb guy?
I was with you earlier, but after hearing WKNRs reporter talk about it, and him talking about people he knows who were there that are telling him the same story, I think there is far more truth than rumor to this one.
Alcohol can make some people do some dumb things. Especially someone who might be upset about something else that occured earlier in their day.
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I'm not buying this yet.
You telling me the only think BE didn't drop Sunday was a 130lb guy?
I was with you earlier, but after hearing WKNRs reporter talk about it, and him talking about people he knows who were there that are telling him the same story, I think there is far more truth than rumor to this one.
Alcohol can make some people do some dumb things. Especially someone who might be upset about something else that occured earlier in their day.
Masters said:
I was with you earlier, but after hearing WKNRs reporter talk about it, and him talking about people he knows who were there that are telling him the same story, I think there is far more truth than rumor to this one.Alcohol can make some people do some dumb things. Especially someone who might be upset about something else that occured earlier in their day.
I have to back masters here. I drink a ridiculous amount and I do a ton of dumb things on a fairly regular basis.
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This incident is another example of why it's time to cut ties with Edwards after this year (or before). If you're one of the highest paid players on the team and you're going to do stupid stuff like this and be immature, then you'd BETTER be a star player. Edwards isn't. He is incredibly athletic, but he's proven time and again that he takes almost as much as he gives, and his lack of maturity is flashing in neon.
I think, given the right system and a strong, quality core around him to keep him in line, BE could be very productive. That kind of situation won't be in Cleveland at least for the next two years.
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LeBron calls out Braylon
Posted by Mike Florio on October 5, 2009 5:32 PM ET
Earlier today, a man who claims that Browns receiver Braylon Edwards beat him up attributed the trouble to jealously that Edwards has for Cleveland Cavaliers star LeBron James.
And now James is wading into the dispute.
And, in other words, it's getting goooooood.
"I've never crossed paths with Braylon before, but it seems like there's a little jealousy going on with Braylon and me and my friends," James said Monday, per the Associated Press. "I have no idea why. I've never said anything to Braylon at all. But for him to do that is very childish. My friend is 130 pounds. Seriously. It's like hitting one of my kids. It doesn't make sense."
More importantly for Edwards, his boss responded to the situation on Monday. And coach Eric Mangini, who has been fining guys for parking-space infractions and water-bottle violations, doesn't sound happy.
"I know there is an incident that has been reported with Braylon Edwards, it's something that I am aware of," Mangini said Monday. "It is something that I spoke with Braylon about and personal conduct is very important to me. I always want our players to put themselves in the most positive positions. This is something I will continue to gather information on."
Edwards had zero catches in Sunday's overtime loss to the Browns. Per the AP, it's the first time that Edwards failed to make a reception in his entire career.
UPDATE: The Cleveland Plain Dealer has more from LeBron, who attempts to educate LeBrown on one what it means to be a pro athlete. "I know how to handle myself as a professional athlete and I take care of my friends and my family. It is unfortunate that some guys don't understand that. You are a role model to kids and you should carry yourself that way on and off the field. And I carry that. I'm not going to do anything to jeopardize myself or my family. I'm one of the guys that look at being a professional athlete at more than just being out on the court."
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way better article:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4534215
BEREA, Ohio -- Braylon Edwards was fighting mad Sunday, exchanging a few blows with one of Cincinnati's massive defensive linemen.
Later, Cleveland's contentious wide receiver allegedly took a swing at someone much smaller but with a towering, more famous friend: LeBron James.
And the King isn't happy about it.
James called Edwards "childish" for allegedly punching his friend early Monday morning following an argument outside a Cleveland night club. The Cavaliers superstar said Edwards punched his friend, Edward Givens, a promoter who was working outside the club around 2:30 a.m. EDT.
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I've never crossed paths with Braylon before, but it seems like there's a little jealousy going on with Braylon and me and my friends. I have no idea why. I've never said anything to Braylon at all. But for him to do that is very childish. My friend is 130 pounds. Seriously. It's like hitting one of my kids. It doesn't make sense.
β -- LeBron James
"I've never crossed paths with Braylon before, but it seems like there's a little jealousy going on with Braylon and me and my friends. I have no idea why," a protective and perturbed James said after practice. "I've never said anything to Braylon at all. But for him to do that is very childish. My friend is 130 pounds. Seriously. It's like hitting one of my kids. It doesn't make sense."
Edwards was not available for comment Monday as the Browns regrouped following their 23-20 overtime loss at home to the Cincinnati Bengals. He did post a message on his Twitter account, offering praise to James, the NBA's reigning MVP.
"I have no issue with LeBron," Edwards tweeted. "I respect and admire him."
James said he was home when the alleged fight occurred, but got a call from Givens telling him about it at 7 a.m. Monday.
"The situation is very sensitive right now, but it's unfortunate that it happened," James said. "Hopefully my friend is doing well."
Edwards faces possible disciplinary action from the Browns and the league.
The Plain Dealer first reported the incident on its Web site, cleveland.com.
According to a police incident report, Givens accused an unidentified man of punching him in the face following an argument at approximately 2:30 a.m. Givens, who is listed as 5-foot-7, 135 pounds on the report, said the 6-foot-3, 215-pound Edwards hit him with a closed fist. He told police he suffered a black eye and cut and was treated at a hospital.
Braylon Edwards
Edwards
Edwards' name did not appear on the report. He was not arrested and there are no charges pending against him.
His manager issued a statement, hoping to soothe any perceived bitterness or rivalry between two of Cleveland's biggest sports stars.
"Braylon has nothing but the highest respect for LeBron James as an athlete and person," Hayes Grooms said.
Browns coach Eric Mangini was aware of the alleged altercation and said he spoke with Edwards, who did not catch a pass in Sunday's loss -- the first time in 62 career games he did not have at least one reception.
"Personal conduct is very important to me," said Mangini, who has drawn criticism for fining players this season for breaking team rules. "I always want our players to put themselves in the most positive positions. This is something I will continue to gather information on."
Edwards, who has a long list of off-field issues since being drafted by the Browns with the No. 3 overall pick in 2005, was not in Cleveland's locker room during the portion open to the media.
On Sunday, he drew a 15-yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct after getting tangled up with Bengals defensive lineman Pat Sims following a pile-up near the end zone in the third quarter. He was the last Browns player to leave the locker room and Edwards spent several minutes after the game chatting in the corridor with Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco.
Edwards later went to View Ultralounge & Nightclub, a downtown hot spot located near Quicken Loans Arena.
Givens told the newspaper's Web site that he was outside greeting people when Edwards approached him.
"Braylon comes up and started saying things, degrading me," Givens said. "He said if it wasn't for LeBron [James] or the Four Horsemen [James' friends and business partners], I wouldn't have what I have, nor would I be able to get girls. Everyone knows Braylon has a problem with LeBron.
"I had to speak up for myself. The conversation started to escalate. As some of his teammates started to pull him back, he punched me. As long as I've known Braylon, I've allowed him and his friends to come into our events free of charge. Whatever jealousy he has with LeBron, he felt he needed to take it out on me."
The immensely talented Edwards, who is in the final year of his contract with Cleveland, has been a headache for much of his time with the Browns. While recovering from a foot injury -- he cut his heel running in his socks after practice -- last year, he was pulled over in his Bentley for driving 120 mph in a 65 mph zone.
He has dropped passes, criticized Cleveland's play-calling, argued with teammates and famously took a helicopter to the Ohio State-Michigan game in 2006 despite being told not to go.
Edwards was also out partying in March with teammate Donte' Stallworth, who later that night struck and killed a a 59-year-old pedestrian while driving drunk in Miami. Stallworth has been suspended for the season.
Mangini is trying to instill discipline to the Browns, many of whom took advantage of former coach Romeo Crennel's good-natured ways. Mangini wants his players to be accountable on and off the field.
"The thing I love talking about is how much they're doing in the community, who they're helping, how they're playing, all of those positive things," he said. "Sometimes things happen and you address them and you work to find out the best course of action, but the important thing for all of us is to be the best Cleveland Browns we can be."
For all his worldwide adulation, James has managed to keep a squeaky clean image. Without naming Edwards, he said he wished others would follow suit.
"I know how to handle myself as a professional athlete," James said. "I take care of my friends and my family. It's unfortunate that some guys don't understand you're a role model to kids and you should carry [yourself] that way, on and off the court, on and off the field.
"I'm one of the guys that looks at being a professional athlete as more than just being out on the court."
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