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Why is it so hard to believe that Quinn could be a bust?

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  • I have no doubt in believing that Quinn could be a bust.

    I just dont believe we know if he is or isnt yet. Drew Brees and Eli Manning werent busts, but everyone thought they were after 6 NFL games.

    I dont think you play a first round draft pick for 6 games then bench him.... sorry, doesnt work like that. Gotta give him 2-3 seasons starting to see his progress and develpment

  • It's not hard to believe Quinn's a bust, it's impossible to know he is without actually seeing him in enough games to let him get a chance to figure things out.

    QB's bust all the time but BQ is either the worst QB to ever play the position after 6 games or he hasn't been given enough games to accurately judge.

    I'm betting it's the latter. And, hopefully, some other team will bet on that too or we've really screwed this whole thing up royally. AGAIN.

  • Quinn could be a bust..however the team is short selling itself and us fans by not allowing him to play enough to find out.. I would hate to trade or cut him only to find out he is going to be Awsome..while we tromp in the pig stye with DA the "thow into double and triple coverage king" but he could be a bust..

    The question is.... will that fact be known in Cleveland where it SHOULD be found out.. or somewhere else?

  • @jadbf said:

    Or it just could be that Al Davis is in charge in Oakland.........

    Screw Al Davis. You don't think a guy drafted 1 gets a longer leash than a guy drafted 22? Really????

  • It's not hard to believe Quinn's a bust, it's impossible to know he is without actually seeing him in enough games to let him get a chance to figure things out.

    QB's bust all the time but BQ is either the worst QB to ever play the position after 6 games or he hasn't been given enough games to accurately judge.

    I'm betting it's the latter. And, hopefully, some other team will bet on that too or we've really screwed this whole thing up royally. AGAIN.

    @damajuki said:

    It's not hard to believe Quinn's a bust, it's impossible to know he is without actually seeing him in enough games to let him get a chance to figure things out.

    QB's bust all the time but BQ is either the worst QB to ever play the position after 6 games or he hasn't been given enough games to accurately judge.

    I'm betting it's the latter. And, hopefully, some other team will bet on that too or we've really screwed this whole thing up royally. AGAIN.

    I don't think he should have ever been pulled. Mangini could have done it so much differently.

  • I think so little of Brady Quinn, and Brady Quinn has done so little to gain the attention of the franchise that I refuse to even talk about him again.

    I'm not so certain that Ratliff ain't the back-up in the event that Anderson goes down.

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  • It isn't for me.

    I am good with it....at least in a realistic sense.

    We have a history of drafting players WAY before their time.

  • @jadbf said:

    Sure . but 17 starts longer? Russel has PROVEN beyaond a shadow of doubt he's not a QB in this league. he's played 23 games, 20 of them starts. with 16 TOTAL TD's in his career.

    He's wrapped the leash around the tree, around the porch, and is stuck under the lamp panting and can't reach his water.

    Agree totally. JaMarcus is a total train wreck.

    And he got 20 starts.

  • Noway 5 1/2 games is enough to see what Quinn is capable of

    But ,he has had 2 1/2 training camps with 2 different coaching staffs

    and no one has seen the "IT" ,the glimpse of greatness to come

    that they obvoiusly saw from Manning & Breeze.

    Hell ,maybe new town,new team ,new offense, Quinn gets it all together

    Don't Care,time to move on ,Pick wasted

  • Quinn is our personal Ryan Leaf, or Tim Couch.

  • As much as we have seen of DA its hard to tell yet if he can learn or is a bust...and as little that we have seen of BQ its impossible to tell...it is possible bq could be a bust and it is possible DA could never learn and be a pro bowler thats a bust overall...

    As an avid nfl fan and a bq fan i can say from what i have seen of bq in his 10 quarters was unimpressive and that theres a real probability that he may be just an average nfl qb but there is no way to tell without sticking with him for at least 6 to 8 games...

    DA has started 2 seasons worth of games but seems to have improved little until sundays game...would bq be better for the longrun?

    I dont know...but if DA keeps playing well and loses the tunnelvision and making bad decisions he will be our guy and BQ will be traded for better or worse..im a DA fag too..i like them both but DA is looking better at the moment...😉

  • As much as we have seen of DA its hard to tell yet if he can learn or is a bust...and as little that we have seen of BQ its impossible to tell...it is possible bq could be a bust and it is possible DA could never learn and be a pro bowler thats a bust overall...

    As an avid nfl fan and a bq fan i can say from what i have seen of bq in his 10 quarters was unimpressive and that theres a real probability that he may be just an average nfl qb but there is no way to tell without sticking with him for at least 6 to 8 games...

    DA has started 2 seasons worth of games but seems to have improved little until sundays game...would bq be better for the longrun?

    I dont know...but if DA keeps playing well and loses the tunnelvision and making bad decisions he will be our guy and BQ will be traded for better or worse..im a DA fag too..i like them both but DA is looking better at the moment...😉

    @gips said:

    As much as we have seen of DA its hard to tell yet if he can learn or is a bust...and as little that we have seen of BQ its impossible to tell...it is possible bq could be a bust and it is possible DA could never learn and be a pro bowler thats a bust overall...

    As an avid nfl fan and a bq fan i can say from what i have seen of bq in his 10 quarters was unimpressive and that theres a real probability that he may be just an average nfl qb but there is no way to tell without sticking with him for at least 6 to 8 games...

    DA has started 2 seasons worth of games but seems to have improved little until sundays game...would bq be better for the longrun?

    I dont know...but if DA keeps playing well and loses the tunnelvision and making bad decisions he will be our guy and BQ will be traded for better or worse..im a DA fag too..i like them both but DA is looking better at the moment...😉

    Uh, how did DA "improve" yesterday? Looked like good ole DA to me.

  • Quinn is our personal Ryan Leaf, or Tim Couch.

    @crow said:

    Quinn is our personal Ryan Leaf, or Tim Couch.

    No, he is not, Tim Couch and Ryan leaf both started 2 full seasons, Quinn never even got that chance

  • @gips said:

    As much as we have seen of DA its hard to tell yet if he can learn or is a bust...and as little that we have seen of BQ its impossible to tell...it is possible bq could be a bust and it is possible DA could never learn and be a pro bowler thats a bust overall...

    As an avid nfl fan and a bq fan i can say from what i have seen of bq in his 10 quarters was unimpressive and that theres a real probability that he may be just an average nfl qb but there is no way to tell without sticking with him for at least 6 to 8 games...

    DA has started 2 seasons worth of games but seems to have improved little until sundays game...would bq be better for the longrun?

    I dont know...but if DA keeps playing well and loses the tunnelvision and making bad decisions he will be our guy and BQ will be traded for better or worse..im a DA fag too..i like them both but DA is looking better at the moment...😉

    Uh, how did DA "improve" yesterday? Looked like good ole DA to me.

    @restinpeace said:

    Uh, how did DA "improve" yesterday? Looked like good ole DA to me.

    He found a WR in Massaquoi that can actually hang on to his 5 yard rocket shots

  • @restinpeace said:

    Uh, how did DA "improve" yesterday? Looked like good ole DA to me.

    He found a WR in Massaquoi that can actually hang on to his 5 yard rocket shots

    @brownb499 said:

    He found a WR in Massaquoi that can actually hang on to his 5 yard rocket shots

    Just like with Winslow and Edwards, he'll grow tired of the hits and develope gattor arms 😁

  • @brownb499 said:

    He found a WR in Massaquoi that can actually hang on to his 5 yard rocket shots

    Just like with Winslow and Edwards, he'll grow tired of the hits and develope gattor arms 😁

    Masters said:

    Just like with Winslow and Edwards, he'll grow tired of the hits and develope gattor arms 😁

    Isn't that what might have happened to Cribbs?

  • It's certainly possible the Quinn is a bust. Mangini didnt give him a fair shot, imo and whatever. If we win with DA then who cares. We haven't, but that's what we're up against now.

  • Quinn's still brand new. He has more upside than DA. DA is who yinz thought he was. Who knows what BQ will turn out to be.

    I know one thing for sure, if this kid gets too screwed up - forget it. He'll go the Tim Couch route.

    The entire stains roster has problems. If Mangina has any coaching sense, he'll recognize undeveloped potential in BQ. I'm just not sure Mangina has that sense.

    Yinz are 0-4. Quarter way through the season. Think it's turn-aroundable? Probably not and playing DA at this point is a panic move. Just like when Mangina brought Brett into NJ - panic move, an attempt to save his own ass.

    Regards

    .... an'at

    .

  • Masters said:

    Just like with Winslow and Edwards, he'll grow tired of the hits and develope gattor arms 😁

    Isn't that what might have happened to Cribbs?

    @atenears said:

    Isn't that what might have happened to Cribbs?

    He'd actually have to get open first.

  • Quinn's still brand new. He has more upside than DA. DA is who yinz thought he was. Who knows what BQ will turn out to be.

    I know one thing for sure, if this kid gets too screwed up - forget it. He'll go the Tim Couch route.

    The entire stains roster has problems. If Mangina has any coaching sense, he'll recognize undeveloped potential in BQ. I'm just not sure Mangina has that sense.

    Yinz are 0-4. Quarter way through the season. Think it's turn-aroundable? Probably not and playing DA at this point is a panic move. Just like when Mangina brought Brett into NJ - panic move, an attempt to save his own ass.

    Regards

    .... an'at

    .

    Steeler SChuck said:

    Quinn's still brand new. He has more upside than DA. DA is who yinz thought he was. Who knows what BQ will turn out to be.

    I know one thing for sure, if this kid gets too screwed up - forget it. He'll go the Tim Couch route.

    The entire stains roster has problems. If Mangina has any coaching sense, he'll recognize undeveloped potential in BQ. I'm just not sure Mangina has that sense.

    Yinz are 0-4. Quarter way through the season. Think it's turn-aroundable? Probably not and playing DA at this point is a panic move. Just like when Mangina brought Brett into NJ - panic move, an attempt to save his own ass.

    One flaw there. The owner and GM brought Favre to the NYJ, not Mangini. Mangini just hung w/ him too long when he knew Brett was hurt.