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  • wasn't the knock on MoMass that he dropped the big catches?

  • wasn't the knock on MoMass that he dropped the big catches?

    @choco said:

    wasn't the knock on MoMass that he dropped the big catches?

    People around here brought that up around draft time. However, I don't recall reading anything like that for myself.

  • You know what would be crazy? If DA got traded right now while he has some value after that game, thatd be another Mangini WTF move

  • I know Anderson doesn't have the greatest accuracy...however, he seemed to find MoMass right where the ball needed to be. His routes looked pretty crisp to me. Timing is everything in the NFL. Edwards used to drive me nuts with his erratic route running. In turn, he often had to work hard for the catch. (again I wont place blame on only the WR...just saying).

    I'm looking forward to seeing him and Robo progress and young WRs

    @onefellswoop7 said:

    I know Anderson doesn't have the greatest accuracy...however, he seemed to find MoMass right where the ball needed to be. His routes looked pretty crisp to me. Timing is everything in the NFL. Edwards used to drive me nuts with his erratic route running. In turn, he often had to work hard for the catch. (again I wont place blame on only the WR...just saying).

    I'm looking forward to seeing him and Robo progress and young WRs

    I really think this will be a good audition year for some of our young guys and let the staff know what direction to go in the draft. A shame Davis got put on IR, it would have been nice to see if he was a real option or just a training camp phenom.

    This trade could go a long way in determining where we are in this rebuilding process. We'll see who steps up. I'm pulling for Robo.

  • @onefellswoop7 said:

    He caught a few in tough double coverage. I sure hope he is up for the challange. Leon Hall couldn't have played him any tighter and he gained 148 yards...

    (side note: BE was NEVER triple teamed lol)

    I'm dying to know what the draft picks are...BE would have walked at the season's end anyway. With a season all but over we miught as well build on what we have and get rid of a bad egg.

    You wont be too excited about the draft picks ...

    @brownindian said:

    You wont be too excited about the draft picks ...

    I'm excited as hell about a third and a fifth for a guy we get nothing for if we keep him for four more games! A second and a fifth was all that the Giants were offering and we got a player in Stuckey who easily grades a quality fifth round success and a guy that's a ST ace with good size and speed. If Edwards actually produces and gets this up to a second and fifth, this was a fabulous trade!

  • Best move mangini has made all year to bad it wasnt earlier...MoMass will be fine and funny enough Catch is the key word and BAT IT DOWN if you cant catch it 2 things edwards couldnt do at all even in single coverage....😉

  • Im going on record right now as saying BE is going to have another Pro Bowl year and be a huge reason they make it to the playoffs we really xxxxed up on this one. The guy has insane potential and I was praying we could unlock that. It will happen in NY and we'll be fleeced once again by the Jets and Mangina.

    Are we the Jets farm system now? Iss Mangina secretly still on their payroll? We gave them a franchise QB and now a franchise WR. Mark my words folks and be ready for an 0-16 season! Wheres the fawking grocery bags!

    P.S. The optimism of getting even a 3rd and 5th is outlandish, we got bent over!

    @ithika said:

    Im going on record right now as saying BE is going to have another Pro Bowl year and be a huge reason they make it to the playoffs we really xxxxed up on this one. . . . The optimism of getting even a 3rd and 5th is outlandish, we got bent over!

    If you are right about Edwards, it's a second and a fifth. Plus a guy drafted in the 7th two years ago that was the Jets #2 receiver Stuckey and a ST Ace. I'll take that for a guy who wasn't going to sign next year and might yet get suspended by the NFL.

    Dude has 139 yards after 4 games. 78th in the NFL! Drops as many passes as he catches and is a CANCER. Who's going to give the Browns more value??

  • @ithika said:

    Problem is I don't believe it and I won't believe it until it equates to wins. For instance the game this weekend vs the Bills I thought was very winnable, now not so much. We'll see how the offense plays this weekend and I might brighten up to this trade. I just dont see anything good coming in the near future.

    He ain't gettin us any wins NOW is the issue man. He has 10 catches this year. Yeah he commands a doubleteam.. so what.

    AdaM said:

    He ain't gettin us any wins NOW is the issue man. He has 10 catches this year. Yeah he commands a doubleteam.. so what.

    Eventually he was going to have a break out game with DA, my bet was this weekend against Buffalo who he had a huge game against last year. You cant tell me you thought he was going to end the season with 10 catches can you? Get a grip man, we're playing for next year and less than a handful of wins this year! In fact since BE has been traded were now not favored to win the game against Buffalo on Vegas odds. They usually seem to be right! Thats a game we probably should have won!

  • AdaM said:

    He ain't gettin us any wins NOW is the issue man. He has 10 catches this year. Yeah he commands a doubleteam.. so what.

    Eventually he was going to have a break out game with DA, my bet was this weekend against Buffalo who he had a huge game against last year. You cant tell me you thought he was going to end the season with 10 catches can you? Get a grip man, we're playing for next year and less than a handful of wins this year! In fact since BE has been traded were now not favored to win the game against Buffalo on Vegas odds. They usually seem to be right! Thats a game we probably should have won!

    @ithika said:

    Eventually he was going to have a break out game with DA, my bet was this weekend against Buffalo who he had a huge game against last year. You cant tell me you thought he was going to end the season with 10 catches can you? Get a grip man, we're playing for next year and less than a handful of wins this year! In fact since BE has been traded were now not favored to win the game against Buffalo on Vegas odds. They usually seem to be right! Thats a game we probably should have won!

    You're making yourself look dumber and dumber man...

  • @ithika said:

    I disagree with you BE and DA's chemistry is very good and took years to build.

    Uh, WTF are you talking about "years to build?"

    First of all it didn't take years to develop, it happened in one season, and was undone in the next. In fact it started with one game - just like MoMass - against the Bengals.

    Relax dude. You're way off the deep end.

    Year to build? LOL....now that's fooking funny.

    @vegasdogg said:

    Uh, WTF are you talking about "years to build?"

    First of all it didn't take years to develop, it happened in one season, and was undone in the next. In fact it started with one game - just like MoMass - against the Bengals.

    Relax dude. You're way off the deep end.

    Year to build? LOL....now that's fooking funny.

    My point was that BE and DA have the most chemistry on the team and that chemistry was built at the end of 06 (Steelers/KC game) and in the offseason of 07 when BQ and Fry tied themselves to K2 and DA and BE developed with each other. They also became good friends to, its been well publicized. At the beginning of camp last year that chemistry that took YEARS to buiild was evident in the preseason opener vs the Jets, bad luck, bad coaching and a QB change however destroyed all of that! Going into this year and at the end of last BE knew he had to start gelling with BQ therefor that friendship and chemistry may have been lost with DA at the seasons start, but with DA and BE back in the lineup it was bound to come out at some point for him to have some big games. It wasn't made over night and BE wasn't a rookie in 07! If you think there is going to be even close to that much success with any other WR on this roster this year your INSANE!

  • @ithika said:

    Eventually he was going to have a break out game with DA, my bet was this weekend against Buffalo who he had a huge game against last year. You cant tell me you thought he was going to end the season with 10 catches can you? Get a grip man, we're playing for next year and less than a handful of wins this year! In fact since BE has been traded were now not favored to win the game against Buffalo on Vegas odds. They usually seem to be right! Thats a game we probably should have won!

    You're making yourself look dumber and dumber man...

    AdaM said:

    You're making yourself look dumber and dumber man...

    Only one that looks unintelligent is the person not explaining their point with one sentence posts!

  • @jadbf said:

    You mean the same DA who stopped looking to even throw it to BE last week and instead lit Momass up for 140 and is now reported to be HAPPY BE is gone?

    And we weren't going to be favored to beat Buffalo WITH Edwards....

    Yeah, any given sunday! eventually he would of thrown Be's way and Be would have a big game, my guess was this weekend! And check Vegas odds bud we were a six point favorite now we're not!

  • @jadbf said:

    You mean the same DA who stopped looking to even throw it to BE last week and instead lit Momass up for 140 and is now reported to be HAPPY BE is gone?

    And we weren't going to be favored to beat Buffalo WITH Edwards....

    Yeah, any given sunday! eventually he would of thrown Be's way and Be would have a big game, my guess was this weekend! And check Vegas odds bud we were a six point favorite now we're not!

    @ithika said:

    Yeah, any given sunday! eventually he would of thrown Be's way and Be would have a big game, my guess was this weekend! And check Vegas odds bud we were a six point favorite now we're not!

    Dude... who gives a shit if he gave us a couple of "breakout" games this year.

    He's gone next year EITHER WAY, hes a CANCER, and he already gave up trying this year....

    Go root for the jets dumbass.

  • @vegasdogg said:

    Uh, WTF are you talking about "years to build?"

    First of all it didn't take years to develop, it happened in one season, and was undone in the next. In fact it started with one game - just like MoMass - against the Bengals.

    Relax dude. You're way off the deep end.

    Year to build? LOL....now that's fooking funny.

    My point was that BE and DA have the most chemistry on the team and that chemistry was built at the end of 06 (Steelers/KC game) and in the offseason of 07 when BQ and Fry tied themselves to K2 and DA and BE developed with each other. They also became good friends to, its been well publicized. At the beginning of camp last year that chemistry that took YEARS to buiild was evident in the preseason opener vs the Jets, bad luck, bad coaching and a QB change however destroyed all of that! Going into this year and at the end of last BE knew he had to start gelling with BQ therefor that friendship and chemistry may have been lost with DA at the seasons start, but with DA and BE back in the lineup it was bound to come out at some point for him to have some big games. It wasn't made over night and BE wasn't a rookie in 07! If you think there is going to be even close to that much success with any other WR on this roster this year your INSANE!

    @ithika said:

    My point was that BE and DA have the most chemistry on the team and that chemistry was built at the end of 06 (Steelers/KC game) and in the offseason of 07 when BQ and Fry tied themselves to K2 and DA and BE developed with each other. They also became good friends to, its been well publicized. At the beginning of camp last year that chemistry that took YEARS to buiild was evident in the preseason opener vs the Jets, bad luck, bad coaching and a QB change however destroyed all of that! Going into this year and at the end of last BE knew he had to start gelling with BQ therefor that friendship and chemistry may have been lost with DA at the seasons start, but with DA and BE back in the lineup it was bound to come out at some point for him to have some big games. It wasn't made over night and BE wasn't a rookie in 07! If you think there is going to be even close to that much success with any other WR on this roster this year your INSANE!

    I still feel that Derek Anderson & Massaquoi lit things up last week because DA established some chemistry with him while running the scout teams, and #2's.

    If so, you have to like that trait of DA in finding a connection with certain receivers. He seemed to love Joe J running consistient patterns and Robiskie and Massaquoi may provide that again ... add in Stukey and we may see DA's completiton percentages go up ... although there will be certain growing pains learning each other against real defenses.

  • @ithika said:

    Yeah, any given sunday! eventually he would of thrown Be's way and Be would have a big game, my guess was this weekend! And check Vegas odds bud we were a six point favorite now we're not!

    Dude... who gives a shit if he gave us a couple of "breakout" games this year.

    He's gone next year EITHER WAY, hes a CANCER, and he already gave up trying this year....

    Go root for the jets dumbass.

    AdaM said:

    Dude... who gives a shit if he gave us a couple of "breakout" games this year.

    He's gone next year EITHER WAY, hes a CANCER, and he already gave up trying this year....

    Go root for the jets dumbass.

    You're a dick Adam the avoid button is a nice feature for dbags like you who cant have a debate without insulting someone. That will be the last thing I type in response to you and your moronic comments..

  • @ithika said:

    Yeah, any given sunday! eventually he would of thrown Be's way and Be would have a big game, my guess was this weekend! And check Vegas odds bud we were a six point favorite now we're not!

    Dude... who gives a shit if he gave us a couple of "breakout" games this year.

    He's gone next year EITHER WAY, hes a CANCER, and he already gave up trying this year....

    Go root for the jets dumbass.

    AdaM said:

    Dude... who gives a shit if he gave us a couple of "breakout" games this year.

    He's gone next year EITHER WAY, hes a CANCER, and he already gave up trying this year....

    Go root for the jets dumbass.

    Whoa, that is the most I have ever seen you type in one single post. Good job buddy keep it up. Your growing.

  • @ithika said:

    My point was that BE and DA have the most chemistry on the team and that chemistry was built at the end of 06 (Steelers/KC game) and in the offseason of 07 when BQ and Fry tied themselves to K2 and DA and BE developed with each other. They also became good friends to, its been well publicized. At the beginning of camp last year that chemistry that took YEARS to buiild was evident in the preseason opener vs the Jets, bad luck, bad coaching and a QB change however destroyed all of that! Going into this year and at the end of last BE knew he had to start gelling with BQ therefor that friendship and chemistry may have been lost with DA at the seasons start, but with DA and BE back in the lineup it was bound to come out at some point for him to have some big games. It wasn't made over night and BE wasn't a rookie in 07! If you think there is going to be even close to that much success with any other WR on this roster this year your INSANE!

    I still feel that Derek Anderson & Massaquoi lit things up last week because DA established some chemistry with him while running the scout teams, and #2's.

    If so, you have to like that trait of DA in finding a connection with certain receivers. He seemed to love Joe J running consistient patterns and Robiskie and Massaquoi may provide that again ... add in Stukey and we may see DA's completiton percentages go up ... although there will be certain growing pains learning each other against real defenses.

    @atenears said:

    I still feel that Derek Anderson & Massaquoi lit things up last week because DA established some chemistry with him while running the scout teams, and #2's.

    If so, you have to like that trait of DA in finding a connection with certain receivers. He seemed to love Joe J running consistient patterns and Robiskie and Massaquoi may provide that again ... add in Stukey and we may see DA's completiton percentages go up ... although there will be certain growing pains learning each other against real defenses.

    I hope you're right.

    I think he happened to love that Joe J, K2 & BE caught every flippin thing he threw at them in 2007.

    But I hope you're right.

  • In closing because this can go on and on is, I'd rather see this team compete with some semblance of building something and to watch progress than watch what I watched from the first three games. This move IMO has us taking a huge step back from that, I really hope Im wrong but there's not a lot to be positive about right now. Secondly I feel like no matter if BE left at seasons end or not we didn't get VALUE for him. The standard was set with Roy Williams and we got nothing close to that. For K2 we got value(IE Shockey trade), for BE we got fleeced pure and simple and to make matters worse we're going to lose even more this year now that he's gone. I don't see what there is to be optimistic about fellas, maybe after the Bills game there will be..

  • @jadbf said:

    You mean the same DA who stopped looking to even throw it to BE last week and instead lit Momass up for 140 and is now reported to be HAPPY BE is gone?

    And we weren't going to be favored to beat Buffalo WITH Edwards....

    Yeah, any given sunday! eventually he would of thrown Be's way and Be would have a big game, my guess was this weekend! And check Vegas odds bud we were a six point favorite now we're not!

    @ithika said:

    Yeah, any given sunday! eventually he would of thrown Be's way and Be would have a big game, my guess was this weekend! And check Vegas odds bud we were a six point favorite now we're not!

    We were never 6 point favorites. The opening line was Buffalo -6 and that is where it still is today.

    Nice try though...

  • In closing because this can go on and on is, I'd rather see this team compete with some semblance of building something and to watch progress than watch what I watched from the first three games. This move IMO has us taking a huge step back from that, I really hope Im wrong but there's not a lot to be positive about right now. Secondly I feel like no matter if BE left at seasons end or not we didn't get VALUE for him. The standard was set with Roy Williams and we got nothing close to that. For K2 we got value(IE Shockey trade), for BE we got fleeced pure and simple and to make matters worse we're going to lose even more this year now that he's gone. I don't see what there is to be optimistic about fellas, maybe after the Bills game there will be..

    @ithika said:

    In closing because this can go on and on is, I'd rather see this team compete with some semblance of building something and to watch progress than watch what I watched from the first three games. This move IMO has us taking a huge step back from that, I really hope Im wrong but there's not a lot to be positive about right now. Secondly I feel like no matter if BE left at seasons end or not we didn't get VALUE for him. The standard was set with Roy Williams and we got nothing close to that. For K2 we got value(IE Shockey trade), for BE we got fleeced pure and simple and to make matters worse we're going to lose even more this year now that he's gone. I don't see what there is to be optimistic about fellas, maybe after the Bills game there will be..

    How can it be a step back when BE meant no step foward? Simply deal man. Deal that BE was a subpar pick. Deal that BE may be facing some nasty suspensions in the future. He is the posterboy for everything wrong in professional sports.