James Davis Drama

ATENEARS

@.mz said:
Read the complaint. It was AFTER practice.

So what? They were still practicing, and if you were just going through the motions then you shouldn't have been out there.

The LB that hit him is the asshole-teammate, not Mangini.

Jets fags just have it out for Mangini, that is where this story just keeps festering. This story broke last week, Browns fans heard it, yawned, and moved on. NY fans, keep it alive to grind on Mangini.

It's a heck of a lot better way to get hurt (hitting in drills) after practice, than racing bare foot. Was Crennel investigated by the league?

pl4tinum

Davis shouldn't have been participating if he wasn't geared up. Anything can happen.

Alo

Masters said:
This just puts more weight behind the Steptoe story/complaint

And if you include Don Carey, it's the third torn labrum suffered by one of our young guys.

It's a really tough break for Davis. Some blamed his poor play last year at Clemson on a bum shoulder, and this is a much more serious injury. A torn labrum can sap a young back's power and toughness - just look at how Laurence Maroney's career has been wrecked by shoulder injuries.

Hopefully, Davis will come back 100%. But we might be drafting a RB somewhere in Rounds 2-4 just in case he doesn't.

I like Ryan Mathews. A lot.

TheClevelandSound

who the hell hits a guy wearing no pads that had his shoulder hurt from hitting a deer? Cmon people grow some brains.

EdwardG

The fact that these stories keep popping up concerns me more than anything else about Mangini. I really question whether he should be around after this year due to all the crap that keeps coming up. It's just never ending, and it always seems like continued smoke means that there is fire around. If I were the owner, I'd be keeping note of all this stuff. Better to admit your mistake and move on within a year, even if it means egg on the face.

Earl34

This is just ESPN and the NY media still having it out for Mangini because they don't like him. Grievances are filed all the time on all teams for all reasons (whether fines or practice issues). To be honest, this one concerns me too but what exactly in the hell was Davis doing with a hurt shoulder and NOT in pads? I'm sure Mangini didn't say "OH, we're thin at RB and this guy is nicked so (insert LB name here)....go plow into him!".

lemosley01

Masters said:
This just puts more weight behind the Steptoe story/complaint

Eh? I didn't hear that. What is that about?

? Masters

@lemosley01 said:
Eh? I didn't hear that. What is that about?

Here is one article on it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp...tory?id=4388347

Earl34

Masters said:
Here is one article on it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp...tory?id=4388347

That's different. That's a mediocre receiver complaining because he got hurt in wet conditions. There were 79 other guys out in wet conditions and none of them got hurt. This, if true, it a bit more legitimate and bit more serious. That said, it makes no sense that this would happen.

? Masters

@earl34 said:
That's different. That's a mediocre receiver complaining because he got hurt in wet conditions. There were 79 other guys out in wet conditions and none of them got hurt. This, if true, it a bit more legitimate and bit more serious. That said, it makes no sense that this would happen.

I'm just saying, you now have Carey story, the Steptoe story, and now the Davis story. As someone else said, that is starting to be a lot of smoke.

lemosley01

@earl34 said:
That's different. That's a mediocre receiver complaining because he got hurt in wet conditions. There were 79 other guys out in wet conditions and none of them got hurt. This, if true, it a bit more legitimate and bit more serious. That said, it makes no sense that this would happen.

You haven't heard anything yet.

Wait until Braylon starts talking.

RestinPeace

BE will be facing some suspension time before his career is over.

Earl34

@lemosley01 said:
You haven't heard anything yet.
Wait until Braylon starts talking.

Wow. You're right. What's taking him so long?

Vegasdogg

Who is the a-hole LB that hit him? Why is he not wearing pads?

Who are the real morons here? The two players involved.

I highly doubt he tore his labrum on this play. That is a long term problem.

But of course this is Mangini's fault.

Earl34

@.mz said:
Because when practice is over, I'm guessing guys take their pads off.
Now we get to see you play lawyer AND doctor on the same message board.

Mangini is a chest-beater. It is what it is.

He injured the shoulder against Minnesota and apparently aggravated it during this "opportunity". Sounds to me like a player who's trying to hang it on the team so that he can collect a full check. It's reminiscent of the player who isn't supposed to be riding motorcycles.....

I can promise you he didn't first tear his labrum in some half-assed drill. (and yes, I am a doctor).

Vegasdogg

@.mz said:
Because when practice is over, I'm guessing guys take their pads off.
Now we get to see you play lawyer AND doctor on the same message board.

Mangini is a chest-beater. It is what it is.

Well if practice is over why is the player alledgely playing blitz pickup without pads against a player who was, and why the f'ck is the player in pads letting him do it? And why is this on Mangini? Until ALL the facts come out how about reserving judgement.

Lawyer and Doctor? Hey asshat do you know what a torn labrum is? Do you know how they happen? How about shutting it while you go find out.

RestinPeace

@.mz said:
Because Mangini is the boss, and the buck stops there, so to speak. You know that. Bullshit going down on his watch, whether he "authorized" it or not, whether he even saw it or not, is on HIM. Because he's the boss.
Is it a torn ballsack, Doctor DD? Broken clitoris??

I'll hit you up later, fellas. Gotta check out Web f-ing MD to catch up with DD's medical expertise.

Sorry, but this isn't on Mangini because Davis had damaged his shoulder BEFORE this supposedly took place. My guess it didn't really happen at all, but the players and players in question who made it look like it to get at Mangini. No different than the non-water bottle incident. I feel sorry for Davis because he is caught up in all this much like Elam.

The Savage/Crennel players will not go down without a fight.

Earl34

@restinpeace said:
Sorry, but this isn't on Mangini because Davis was damaged his shoulder BEFORE this supposedly took place. My guess it didn't really happen at all, but the players and players in question who made it look like it to get at Mangini. No different than the non-water bottle incident. I feel sorry for Davis because he is caught up in all this much like Elam.
The Savage/Crennel players will not go down without a fight.

Very true, and I was reading that there is a financial incentive for this to be on the team as opposed to just your run of the mill injury....just can't seem to find that. Must've been retracted.

Vegasdogg

@.mz said:
I'll hit you up later, fellas. Gotta check out Web f-ing MD to catch up with DD's medical expertise.

You miss the point again. Why give credence to the rumor when you don't know WTF you're talking about? Why are you expanding the rumor based on information a laymen should know not to be true? You're anti-Mangini, I realize that. But use your fooking head.

Earl34

@.mz said:
I miss the point, but you're the one laboring on re: the injury instead of focusing on the big picture. Because you obviously didn't get it the eighth time, I'll spell it out for you: the injury itself wasn't the point, it's the chest-beating man-up pussy dogshit Mangini seems to be spewing that CONTRIBUTED to said injury.

Could you quantify that? "Seems to be spewing"? How do you know what Mangini expects in practice and how far he expects these guys to go? You're trying to make your perception of Mangini's persona translate into responsibility for this injury. You don't have enough data to say that.