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PFT is reporting that Brady Quinn's house is for sale

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  • @inspecta said:

    I'm not big on players "challenging" the coach cause I think you have to do what you're told, however in Quinns case I think he has an absolutely valid argument.

    This kid sat and waited....and waited....and waited.....the whole time working his ass off, doing the right thing, saying the right things, being a good teammate. Then after 2.5 games he gets pulled. Now that's not even the biggest rub. The biggest rub is how differently they approached the offense once Anderson went in. He had different weapons, and different playcalling. And I'm sure Quinn overheard Mangini or Daboll telling Anderson he could do things that Quinn was told was off limits. Is that last sentence speculation on my part? Yeah, but the fact that Quinn has had enough and is now starting to let this leak out into the media tells a lot of the story. He's been treated like absolute shit since day one, and even then kept his mouth shut and did what was right.

    I don't blame Quinn for wanting a trade, and unless they plan to put him back in the starters role they should grant him a trade.

    Effectively, Mangini is telling Quinn- "Son, you ain't even a practice squad QB in this league. I really don't think you're better than (statistically) the worst starter in the NFL. I'm sticking with DA even though guys with better QB stats are getting benched, and commentators on ESPN and the National Networks are laughing at Anderson, he's so damn inept." EM had damn well better be right!

    PS Jets fans are saying Mangini is a dork- this could be exhibit 1B, Braylon being exhibit 1A.

  • I just have a gut feeling Quinn is going to be a good player on this team if he gets a longer leash or goes to another team fresh. At this point I don't think I care anymore.. I'm just becoming numb.

    *Sigh

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @lemosley01 said:

    If DA continues to suck to high heaven...people will be screaming for Ratliff. I've said it many times: I think Mangini wants Ratliff as the starter. Remove Quinn entirely from the picture, and it's easy to give Ratliff the starting job.

    That's really underhanded, and says a lot about this coach.

    We'll see in the next couple of weeks.

    Ya, and if Ratliff blows, Mangini just punched his ticket out of town.

    @hoorta said:

    Ya, and if Ratliff blows, Mangini just punched his ticket out of town.

    How do you know that?

    Here is a hint: Quinn's mechanics sucks, they always have sucked, they always will suck. This is something you can't teach. The guy has no faith in his ability and it shows.

    Keep on believing. Fantasy can be a hard thing to stop trying at.

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  • R RestinPeace

    @hoorta said:

    Ya, and if Ratliff blows, Mangini just punched his ticket out of town.

    How do you know that?

    Here is a hint: Quinn's mechanics sucks, they always have sucked, they always will suck. This is something you can't teach. The guy has no faith in his ability and it shows.

    Keep on believing. Fantasy can be a hard thing to stop trying at.

    @restinpeace said:

    How do you know that?

    Here is a hint: Quinn's mechanics sucks, they always have sucked, they always will suck. This is something you can't teach. The guy has no faith in his ability and it shows.

    Keep on believing. Fantasy can be a hard thing to stop trying at.

    Make sure you let the 2 1/2 games from the 2009 NFL football season seal the fate of someones life for yah. You're def. a dumbasss

  • @shepwrite said:

    Keep in mind that EVERYBODY saw him as a Top 10 type of player out of college, including Kiper and company.

    Not everybody...The Sporting News had him rated a 3rd round talent.

    We had this discussion last year or the year before....maybe not you and I but it was a topic...I posted TSN rating via link...I am sure a few will remember.

    This link isn't to the article or rating, but it does support what i am saying.

    http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/gbp_rugby...ClevelandBrowns

    It actually makes for a good read. Some of the comments seem spot on.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • Everybody here who supported Quinn said he won the very fair QB competition, including me. Now you're making excuses as to why he was set up to fail by the very coach who awarded him the job? The worst rated QB in the NFL gives this team more of a chance to win, yet that is everyones fault but the actual player who got benched. Amazing. Not too many thoeries dumber than that.

    "I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley
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  • I was going to hit thanks, but it isn't here anymore thanks to some of the children who post on here.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • 1st ,3rd or 6th pick it doesnt really matter...bq has been treated unfairly by this club and unlike anything i have ever seen has not been given a chance to show what he has(if anything)..its almost as if he was setup to fail to make an excuse for a fire sale...

    Fact is it really doesnt matter who is under center the poison fan kool-aid and the illusion that this club is improving with DA under center will be shattered over the next 4 tuff games and then likely over the next few years as the team is rebuilt yet again only this time in mangini's fat failing image...😉

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
  • V Vegasdogg

    Everybody here who supported Quinn said he won the very fair QB competition, including me. Now you're making excuses as to why he was set up to fail by the very coach who awarded him the job? The worst rated QB in the NFL gives this team more of a chance to win, yet that is everyones fault but the actual player who got benched. Amazing. Not too many thoeries dumber than that.

    @vegasdogg said:

    Everybody here who supported Quinn said he won the very fair QB competition, including me. Now you're making excuses as to why he was set up to fail by the very coach who awarded him the job? The worst rated QB in the NFL gives this team more of a chance to win, yet that is everyones fault but the actual player who got benched. Amazing. Not too many thoeries dumber than that.

    I dont think anyone is/was worried with the competition and preseason Vegas. I think the people who have concerns if pulling Quinn was the right decision (based on what we saw in the entire game - not just Quinn's stats/play) are basing those concerns off of the 2.5 games he played.

    I personally have never seen NFL games called so poorly in my entire life. And being in Virginia, I've seen a lot of Joe Gibbs v 2.0 football.

    Are we to believe Braylon was only dogging it when Anderson was on the field? Cant have that theory both ways you know... Cribbs isnt a legit #2 WR only when Anderson plays? Nope. Robert Royal ? Please. Zero Mike Furrey? Robo cleaning the bleachers after games? MoMass tossed in on a situational basis? Turnstile right side of OL? Every single one of these "excuses" has been addressed and improved. After Quinn was benched. Which is really odd.

    Quinn's performance sucked out loud. Derek's has continued to break the sound barrier for going on 2 seasons now. Can't say there is a c-o-n-spiracy, but if the plan was to eventually move Quinn, he was way more valuable in April than he is now. And that decision certainly did not require the 1st 2 and a half games (if you can call them that). Mangini gets an F for the management of this situation. While many are ready to paint the gameball Mangini got from the team last week with various shades of lipstick, he's got a lot of improvement to make, before I get "back on board." Not losing isn't going to cut it for me. I want to see a win, if you're going to be the "my way or highway" type of coach.

    Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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  • none of this would be an issue if DA came in and outplayed BQ. so far DA has played worse than quinn against far worse teams, and we've seen no signs of him being benched. BQ was 6-8 and got benched. DA just went 2-17 in an entire game, and they didn't even have Quinn warming up on the sidelines. Thats kinda telling.

    that is why you are getting people with conspiracy theories.

  • Finally..... Get him outta here

  • R RestinPeace

    @hoorta said:

    Ya, and if Ratliff blows, Mangini just punched his ticket out of town.

    How do you know that?

    Here is a hint: Quinn's mechanics sucks, they always have sucked, they always will suck. This is something you can't teach. The guy has no faith in his ability and it shows.

    Keep on believing. Fantasy can be a hard thing to stop trying at.

    @restinpeace said:

    How do you know that?

    Here is a hint: Quinn's mechanics sucks, they always have sucked, they always will suck. This is something you can't teach. The guy has no faith in his ability and it shows.

    Keep on believing. Fantasy can be a hard thing to stop trying at.

    WTH are you posting in response to. That quote had NOTHING to do with Quinn.

  • If Quinn's practice reps have dried up, yeah. I'd want out to. If you aren't getting any practice reps how are you supposed to improve?

    If true, I'd be making a big xxxxing stink to be traded.

    I wonder if it comes down to he said/she said - do the coaches believe Quinn or the rat?

  • L lemosley01

    If Quinn's practice reps have dried up, yeah. I'd want out to. If you aren't getting any practice reps how are you supposed to improve?

    If true, I'd be making a big xxxxing stink to be traded.

    I wonder if it comes down to he said/she said - do the coaches believe Quinn or the rat?

    @lemosley01 said:

    If Quinn's practice reps have dried up, yeah. I'd want out to. If you aren't getting any practice reps how are you supposed to improve?

    If true, I'd be making a big xxxxing stink to be traded.

    I wonder if it comes down to he said/she said - do the coaches believe Quinn or the rat?

    I don't think anyone is blaming him. I would do the same thing. Good luck Brady.

    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12

  • Here it is.

    brady_house.jpg

    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12

  • Bradys house with photos

    http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-...4012_1113357993

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  • on the bright side, if it were to occur, no more QB controversy !

  • C Crow

    3rd and a 5th...3rd and a 5th.

    Man, I don't know. That doesn't seem like a lot. But then again if we start him more there's a high chance his value plummets further...

    @crow said:

    3rd and a 5th...3rd and a 5th.

    Man, I don't know. That doesn't seem like a lot. But then again if we start him more there's a high chance his value plummets further...

    He's simply not worth a lot. He's shown nothing.

    :neutral_face:

  • @shepwrite said:

    I think the book on him is REALLY mixed around the league, from what I'm reading. Some think he'll be a career backup, an A.J. Feeley type of player... but others haven't lost faith that he's a big-time quarterback, believing that he got epically hosed in Cleveland. Keep in mind that EVERYBODY saw him as a Top 10 type of player out of college, including Kiper and company.

    As King said, did he really just suddenly wake up and suck this year, after a nice debut last year and a good preseason this year? How come?

    He had a good debut last year because Denver had a crappy game plan against him. They figured out by the 4th quarter that he won't go deep, he's captain checkdown. They were still rspecting the deep ball before that. Notice after the third quarter of the Denver game his stats took a nosedive?

    Captain Checkdown.

    :neutral_face:
  • E Earl34

    @shepwrite said:

    I think it's pretty crazy, too... and Quinn should have started at least until the bye. He played against three great defenses with one WR who couldn't catch and another who wasn't a WR, no running game, and severe restrictions.

    Agreed, it wasn't at all pretty. But I was still shocked when he was pulled. Intrigued and a little hopeful... but still shocked. Now that Anderson has blown ass, it looks even crazier.

    I think the 11 mill thing comes into play, given a few things Mangini has said about saving money that will improve the team in the offseason. Quinn needs to start about 11 games to make his money, so the plan might have been to let Anderson suck for a few more games and check into Quinn after the bye.

    I don't think Quinn is down with that plan, though.

    Shep, I won't argue with the craziness of it but I will say that I think that the willingness to look off of the deep routes for the check downs was a problem for this coaching staff to accept. I don't know it for a fact but I have it on authority that I trust. I think that what this says to me is that they never really wanted Quinn and were starting him to make a point and are moving on.

    @earl34 said:

    I will say that I think that the willingness to look off of the deep routes for the check downs was a problem for this coaching staff to accept.

    Bingo.

    :neutral_face:
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