PFT is reporting that Brady Quinn's house is for sale
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Bradys house with photos
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-...4012_1113357993
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on the bright side, if it were to occur, no more QB controversy !
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3rd and a 5th...3rd and a 5th.
Man, I don't know. That doesn't seem like a lot. But then again if we start him more there's a high chance his value plummets further...
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@shepwrite said:
I think the book on him is REALLY mixed around the league, from what I'm reading. Some think he'll be a career backup, an A.J. Feeley type of player... but others haven't lost faith that he's a big-time quarterback, believing that he got epically hosed in Cleveland. Keep in mind that EVERYBODY saw him as a Top 10 type of player out of college, including Kiper and company.As King said, did he really just suddenly wake up and suck this year, after a nice debut last year and a good preseason this year? How come?
He had a good debut last year because Denver had a crappy game plan against him. They figured out by the 4th quarter that he won't go deep, he's captain checkdown. They were still rspecting the deep ball before that. Notice after the third quarter of the Denver game his stats took a nosedive?
Captain Checkdown.
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@shepwrite said:
I think it's pretty crazy, too... and Quinn should have started at least until the bye. He played against three great defenses with one WR who couldn't catch and another who wasn't a WR, no running game, and severe restrictions.Agreed, it wasn't at all pretty. But I was still shocked when he was pulled. Intrigued and a little hopeful... but still shocked. Now that Anderson has blown ass, it looks even crazier.
I think the 11 mill thing comes into play, given a few things Mangini has said about saving money that will improve the team in the offseason. Quinn needs to start about 11 games to make his money, so the plan might have been to let Anderson suck for a few more games and check into Quinn after the bye.
I don't think Quinn is down with that plan, though.
Shep, I won't argue with the craziness of it but I will say that I think that the willingness to look off of the deep routes for the check downs was a problem for this coaching staff to accept. I don't know it for a fact but I have it on authority that I trust. I think that what this says to me is that they never really wanted Quinn and were starting him to make a point and are moving on.
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I think the incentives were the nail in the coffin, too.
Pretty good break down, if no one's read it:
"Cleveland Browns QB Conspiracy Corner
This is a new feature of mine. It will run this one time. Then it will be gone. Until it comes back.
When I started writing my piece yesterday about the QB Break Down (double-entendre alert!), I never had an honest thought in my head that by the time I was done DA would actually have been named the starter. Call it wishful thinking; call it naiveté; call it whatever you must. The fact is, I never dreamed that after only 2.5 games anyone would be willing to say they’d seen enough of Brady Quinn to know he had no future with this team.
Alas, I was wrong.
But, I don’t think it’s that simple. As Keyser Soze once opined, “The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.” So, while some may choose to believe that Brady Quinn got hosed, and that Eric Mangini is merely trying to net some offense to stave off the wolves at the door for awhile at the expense of long-term development, I think the answer has been hiding right in front of our faces all along.
1. Brady Quinn’s contract is laden with incentives.
As Deep Throat (the Nixon guy, you pervs) once stated, “Follow the money!” It’s not a secret that Quinn’s deal has escalators that kick in after he plays a certain percentage of the team’s snaps as well as anything stats-related. It’s not a secret that the lion’s share of DA’s money has already been paid out in bonus form. By pulling Quinn in favor of Anderson after such a short period of time, Mangini has all but guaranteed that Quinn cannot reach those escalators, and will cost much, much less against the salary cap, and will also make him more tradeable.
2. Eric Mangini never wanted Quinn as his starter to begin with.
Why else would this competition have gone on so long in the pre-season? Why else would Anderson–a guy we already have quite an extensive tome on with respect to his strengths and weaknesses as a player–keep getting so many chances? Why else would Mangini insist that Brett Ratliff be included in the trade with the Jets on draft-day?
3. Mangini wanted an excuse to get rid of Quinn.
Following up on #2, Mangini knew that it would be a mistake simpy to cut Quinn, which would basically tell the fan base, “Look, we’re going to suck on ice for the next two years, so we’re just going to with the guy who’s under the expensive contract and will keep the seat warm until I can get more of my guys in here on both sides of the ball to be ready for a new QB of the future.” To do so would be a PR suicide. Browns fans are nothing if not willing to forget things in the short-term and go into almost every season with some kind of blind optimism. Why urinate on that before the season even started?
4. Mangini set Quinn up to fail.
Because of #2 and #3, Mangini pre-orchestrated a plan to give Quinn a minscule shot so that he could say to the fan base, “See? We tried. It didn’t work. Time to move on to Plan B-as-in-’Blow Up’ folks,” and at the first sign of struggle would then jettison the Golden Domer in favor of Anderson to ride out the next two years while DA’s still under contract. Why else would we have such crappy play-calling game-in and game-out? Why else would the playcalling open up somewhat once DA was inserted in the third quarter on Sunday? Why else would Josh Cribbs be the starting #2 wide receiver when he hasn’t showed enough to merit that continued opportunity?
5. The Smoking Gun: Brian Robiskie will not only be active on Sunday, but will start opposite Edwards.
Mangini will announce that Robiskie made great strides in practice this week, and not only will he be active, but will start and make an impact. Cincinnati’s secondary is by far their weakest area, and Mangini will set Anderson up to look light years better than Quinn in an effort to justify moving Mr. Myoplex at the trading deadline for additional draft picks.
It’s all part of the master plan, folks. Mangini played us all like fiddles in an effort to get Quinn out of here and buy some time to build a team for his own QB in 2011, whether it be Ratliff or someone else not yet on the roster.
And, in a final move, Quinn will rip off his Browns jersey on Sunday to reveal a Dolphins jersey underneath, will hit Mangini with a folding chair, and then climb to the top of the benches and deliver one last flying elbow to the lumbar region, marking the end of this clowny chapter in Browns QB history."
It is actually lame. Why would a coach put his job on the line just to save money for the team ? Also Robiskie did not play in the Cincy game. Mangini is not here to play punkd. He is trying to do things his own way without caring for anyone and he will continue to do so until Lerner has had enough.
It is actually lame. Why would a coach put his job on the line just to save money for the team ? Also Robiskie did not play in the Cincy game. Mangini is not here to play punkd. He is trying to do things his own way without caring for anyone and he will continue to do so until Lerner has had enough.
I know. Why would a coach care if a player gets performance bonuses if he gives his team the best chance to win? They would not. I'm not buying the conspiracy theory, but I will buy that Quinn simply doesn't have what it takes. It's amazing that people will concoct conspiracy theories before they believe Quinn just isn't that good.
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Mark, I don't think Parcells would take a guy like Quinn as one of his "Commandments of QBs" is to "never have a celebrity QB".
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Everybody here who supported Quinn said he won the very fair QB competition, including me. Now you're making excuses as to why he was set up to fail by the very coach who awarded him the job? The worst rated QB in the NFL gives this team more of a chance to win, yet that is everyones fault but the actual player who got benched. Amazing. Not too many thoeries dumber than that.
I dont think anyone is/was worried with the competition and preseason Vegas. I think the people who have concerns if pulling Quinn was the right decision (based on what we saw in the entire game - not just Quinn's stats/play) are basing those concerns off of the 2.5 games he played.
I personally have never seen NFL games called so poorly in my entire life. And being in Virginia, I've seen a lot of Joe Gibbs v 2.0 football.
Are we to believe Braylon was only dogging it when Anderson was on the field? Cant have that theory both ways you know... Cribbs isnt a legit #2 WR only when Anderson plays? Nope. Robert Royal ? Please. Zero Mike Furrey? Robo cleaning the bleachers after games? MoMass tossed in on a situational basis? Turnstile right side of OL? Every single one of these "excuses" has been addressed and improved. After Quinn was benched. Which is really odd.
Quinn's performance sucked out loud. Derek's has continued to break the sound barrier for going on 2 seasons now. Can't say there is a c-o-n-spiracy, but if the plan was to eventually move Quinn, he was way more valuable in April than he is now. And that decision certainly did not require the 1st 2 and a half games (if you can call them that). Mangini gets an F for the management of this situation. While many are ready to paint the gameball Mangini got from the team last week with various shades of lipstick, he's got a lot of improvement to make, before I get "back on board." Not losing isn't going to cut it for me. I want to see a win, if you're going to be the "my way or highway" type of coach.
Not losing isn't going to cut it for me. I want to see a win, if you're going to be the "my way or highway" type of coach.
That is exactly how I feel, and especially about the BUF game. CLE didn't win, they just didn't lose.
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Everybody here who supported Quinn said he won the very fair QB competition, including me. Now you're making excuses as to why he was set up to fail by the very coach who awarded him the job? The worst rated QB in the NFL gives this team more of a chance to win, yet that is everyones fault but the actual player who got benched. Amazing. Not too many thoeries dumber than that.
Everybody here who supported Quinn said he won the very fair QB competition, including me. Now you're making excuses as to why he was set up to fail by the very coach who awarded him the job? The worst rated QB in the NFL gives this team more of a chance to win, yet that is everyones fault but the actual player who got benched. Amazing. Not too many thoeries dumber than that.
And what is this difference in playcalling everyone keeps talking about?
Could it be tha tQuinn just didn't execute? Captain Checkdown?
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Bradys house with photos
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-...4012_1113357993
Bradys house with photos
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-...4012_1113357993
What they didn't show is the disco in the basement with YMCA posters everywhere.
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Everybody here who supported Quinn said he won the very fair QB competition, including me. Now you're making excuses as to why he was set up to fail by the very coach who awarded him the job? The worst rated QB in the NFL gives this team more of a chance to win, yet that is everyones fault but the actual player who got benched. Amazing. Not too many thoeries dumber than that.
And what is this difference in playcalling everyone keeps talking about?
Could it be tha tQuinn just didn't execute? Captain Checkdown?
And what is this difference in playcalling everyone keeps talking about?
Could it be tha tQuinn just didn't execute? Captain Checkdown?
Do you mean the same playcalling that the people who want DA to play are complaining about?
I observed how plain our playcalling was this week. I thought it was Quinn that was holding the playbook back. The playbook changed (because Anderson can't throw short passes at all), but it still sucks.
Seems like that is an indictment that neither of these guys are worth a damn.
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And what is this difference in playcalling everyone keeps talking about?
Could it be tha tQuinn just didn't execute? Captain Checkdown?
Do you mean the same playcalling that the people who want DA to play are complaining about?
I observed how plain our playcalling was this week. I thought it was Quinn that was holding the playbook back. The playbook changed (because Anderson can't throw short passes at all), but it still sucks.
Seems like that is an indictment that neither of these guys are worth a damn.
Do you mean the same playcalling that the people who want DA to play are complaining about?
I observed how plain our playcalling was this week. I thought it was Quinn that was holding the playbook back. The playbook changed (because Anderson can't throw short passes at all), but it still sucks.
Seems like that is an indictment that neither of these guys are worth a damn.
I think its more of an indictment that Daboll is not worth a damn.
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Brady's house aint shit to LeBrons haha. I live on the same street as LeBron.
and it looks like its too recent for google maps.
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Brady's house aint shit to LeBrons haha. I live on the same street as LeBron.
and it looks like its too recent for google maps.
Brady's house aint shit to LeBrons haha. I live on the same street as LeBron.
and it looks like its too recent for google maps.
I think Brady has made less than $8 million so far, Lebron is probably getting close to $1 billion.
Go figure on that house huh?
some people...
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Ding Dong, the male model('s career in Cleveland) is dead! Rejoice!
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From: @TheOBR
Sent: Oct 14, 2009 10:31a
Number of legitimate sources quoted in articles with proof that Brady Quinn has demanded a trade: Exactly Zero.
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I agree with Inspecta. Quinn gets moved and we regret it for a LONG TIME.
On that same token, if he stays here, I bet he ammounts to little.
Such is life in Cleveland Sports.
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@shepwrite said:
I can so totally see Quinn debuting in Carolina in 3-4 weeks with a really good game... and the puking.I wouldn't puke, it would just be another lump in the pile of shit that is bad cleveland decisions.
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...mangini_14.html
Cleveland Browns' Eric Mangini: 'We're not looking to move Brady Quinn'
By Plain Dealer staff
October 14, 2009, 10:41AM
Updated at 11:55 a.m. with Brady Quinn quotes
By Mary Kay Cabot and Tony Grossi,
The Plain Dealer
BEREA, Ohio -- Browns quarterback Brady Quinn said this morning that he has not asked to be traded and coach Eric Mangini said during his press conference, "We're not looking to move Brady Quinn.''
Quinn was asked if he would request a trade.
"No, that's not my nature to do something like that. I have a contract with the Browns and I intend to play that out."
When asked if he would welcome a trade, Quinn said: "It's tough to put out a hypothetical like that. At this point in time, obviously, I want to play. I think I'm good enough to play in the league. I'm here right now to do the best I can for this team."
The questions about Quinn's status were prompted by growing speculation that Quinn would like to go somewhere where he can start. The trading deadline is next Tuesday at 4 p.m. Quinn's house was put up for sale on Tuesday, fueling speculation that he might be on the move.
Managini said he's talked to Quinn and "He's focused on Pittsburgh." Mangini also said, "We get calls all the time that we listen to, but Brady is a Cleveland Brown and it's not anything we're looking to do.''
Quinn stands to lose $11 million this season if he doesn't start and finish about 11 games. He's played 2 1/2 games this season, and Mangini has expressed his commitment to Derek Anderson, at least for the time being.
Quinn shrugged off theories that putting his house up for sale indicated he was anticipating a trade.
"No, that indicates a house is for sale," Quinn said. "I appreciate the free advertising. It doesn't have anything to do with what we're here for -- prepare for Pittsburgh.
"I'm a guy who doesn't want to continue to drive 30 minutes to the facility every day (from Avon Lake). I'm a bachelor who lives in a house that has maybe too much upkeep. There's other reasons (to sell it). I'm trying to downsize."
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