"It's a shock to everybody on this team"
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I post on this board alot and I must have missed what everyone is so upset about, and where did the thanks button go?
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Sweet Jesus. I just saw that thread being dug up. WTF?!!?!?!?!?!?
Everyone in this thread has it dead right.
Not to mention that's a thread from the middle of the 2008 season, w/ Lum already ragging on Quinn, having previously shown he's a tool, and not supporting the QB change (you know, the matra of we are Browns fans, we should support the QB). Not to mention our own board owner being a chode in that thread. Yeah, great example of why people should feel bad about Lums
That's a prime example of board members rallying against a troll, a troll supported by management.Straight up more childish behavior to even drag that thing up. And dumb ass thought process to use it as an example of anything.
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I went to Oregon State and fully back DA. I can even say that not everything Lum says is wrong. It is the way he says it. I like reading about the QB situation, i enjoy reading both sides as they both actually have valid points. But I have to say even I would stop reading threads as soon as it became all about Lumbergh.
He has every right to his views and has the right to defend them. But he uses the term BQ fag way way too much and it is even grating on a DA supporter. I really think that it starts with Lumbergh on cleaning things up. Ask him to not call people names and when DA has a bad game just admit it and move on.
There is no defending 2 - 17, there just isn't. But you don't have too, the Browns won. SAy yea he played a bad game and yea the receivers did not help but 2 -17 is bad. He is still young and lets hope he does not repeat the performance against Pittsburgh.
Hell I said DA played bad, and I am not a BQ fag. Lumbergh needs to stop trying to provoke people and the truth is people need to stop addressing him. He can make good comments and he needs to be encouraged to write like that. I think it is a shame if the board losses it's long time posters because they are mad about somebody like Lumbergh.
I appreciate the stats that Flugs posted, even if I don't agree. But it gives me a base to argue with. Same with Shep, do I agree with him? Not really, but he gives you a basis to start a good conversation. That is what a good board needs, level headed people that have differing opinions. All the BQ fag calling translated into DA fag calling which just turned into name calling.
Just everybody knock it off and continue with the good discussions that have been happening lately. And Lum you are not alone now so you do not have to be such a jerk, you have other people in your corner. Just go back to the good posts that you are capable of.
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cmac12 - this thread isn't about DA or Quinn, please don't make it about either of them.
Legacy nails it in his first post.
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cmac12 - this thread isn't about DA or Quinn, please don't make it about either of them.
Legacy nails it in his first post.
cmac12 - this thread isn't about DA or Quinn, please don't make it about either of them.
Legacy nails it in his first post.
I think Cmac was on point. Lum and DA go hand in had, and Cmac was alluding to that.
Heck, if Lum even post regularly about anything other than DA and Quinn, people would probably be even less hard on him.
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This forum has always beem a pretty cool sounding board that would rally together against a-holes and imposters.
This latest trend of 'cleaning' things up is an oddity to the everyday coming and goings, at least since i've been here.
Lumberg has always been fair game to tee off on since his purpose on this board has never been for the good of the Browns, just DA.
The fact that he was able to garner a few upper level allies in his fandom of DA has been disconcerning to many.
The facts are pretty straight up on DA. So are his stats.
What did everybody bitch about before DA/BQ?
A QB?
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Thanks to Cmac as well.
I also came to find a middle ground to discuss with ONB and D&S.
But Lum at his worst wasn't simply tolerated, starting a few months back Stan actually starting supporting it.
Stan simply has sand in his you-know-what. He wanted a tough guy forum and reveled in watching Lum drum up the natives. Kitchen heat turns his way and blam..... I'm taking my ball and going home.
Wow.
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Thanks to Cmac as well.
I also came to find a middle ground to discuss with ONB and D&S.
But Lum at his worst wasn't simply tolerated, starting a few months back Stan actually starting supporting it.
Stan simply has sand in his you-know-what. He wanted a tough guy forum and reveled in watching Lum drum up the natives. Kitchen heat turns his way and blam..... I'm taking my ball and going home.
Wow.
Thanks to Cmac as well.
I also came to find a middle ground to discuss with ONB and D&S.
But Lum at his worst wasn't simply tolerated, starting a few months back Stan actually starting supporting it.
Stan simply has sand in his you-know-what. He wanted a tough guy forum and reveled in watching Lum drum up the natives. Kitchen heat turns his way and blam..... I'm taking my ball and going home.
Wow.
Well said. Especially the take my ball and go home line. I view it the exact same way.
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I know it is not about DA or BQ. Sorry about that. I was really just saying that everything seemed to start with the BQ fag calling and the reality of it is too many people responded to it by DA fag calling and they that became just Name calling.
I have seen posts where lum has made good points without name calling, and those are the posts that he needs to make. And if somebody does name call we all just have to not respond to it.
I remember allot of posts that were going really well until they were hijacked by name calling. That is all I am really saying and I do agree with what Legacy said. That you can not use one of Lums good posts as a true representation of what he brings, but you could use it as an example of what he could bring to the board.
Again sorry about what I said, I was just thinking of where I started seeing all the name calling start. And I do remember Lum making some good posts but then he follows it up with 10 bad posts. He needs to stop the name calling and so does everybody else.
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Turn out Lums was right, and his detractors, myself included, were wrong.
Going back and reading I can see the Administrator's point. Quite clearly, in fact.
I would like to offer an apology to Lumbergh.
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I post on this board alot and I must have missed what everyone is so upset about, and where did the thanks button go?
I post on this board alot and I must have missed what everyone is so upset about, and where did the thanks button go?
For the love of God will someone please explain this to me?
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For the love of God will someone please explain this to me?
they removes it because it was to easy to hit thanks to a post you didn't agree with rather than posting a reply. the only replies that were being posted were negative and they felt the board was way too negative for this treason.
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Turn out Lums was right, and his detractors, myself included, were wrong.
Going back and reading I can see the Administrator's point. Quite clearly, in fact.
I would like to offer an apology to Lumbergh.
Turn out Lums was right, and his detractors, myself included, were wrong.
Going back and reading I can see the Administrator's point. Quite clearly, in fact.
I would like to offer an apology to Lumbergh.
It would only be a good point if that was even one of Lums first few posts and before he was ever a chode to people on this board. Neither is the case. It was an epic fail by Admin.
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I know it is not about DA or BQ. Sorry about that. I was really just saying that everything seemed to start with the BQ fag calling and the reality of it is too many people responded to it by DA fag calling and they that became just Name calling.
I have seen posts where lum has made good points without name calling, and those are the posts that he needs to make. And if somebody does name call we all just have to not respond to it.
I remember allot of posts that were going really well until they were hijacked by name calling. That is all I am really saying and I do agree with what Legacy said. That you can not use one of Lums good posts as a true representation of what he brings, but you could use it as an example of what he could bring to the board.
Again sorry about what I said, I was just thinking of where I started seeing all the name calling start. And I do remember Lum making some good posts but then he follows it up with 10 bad posts. He needs to stop the name calling and so does everybody else.
Again sorry about what I said, I was just thinking of where I started seeing all the name calling start. And I do remember Lum making some good posts but then he follows it up with 10 bad posts. He needs to stop the name calling and so does everybody else.
Don't be man - it's all good. I was just afraid this would devolve into another DA/BQ thread.
Pumpkin Eater, you should read the responses in this thread; that post is not representative of what Lumbergh regularly brought. That was one of the very few good ones.
For whatever reason, 'admin' has decided to turn this around and try to make the rest of us the bad guys when we simply reacted in kind. Lumbergh isn't the 'victim' here.
It's like the kid on the playground that people tolerate. However the kid wants attention so he calls names and makes a scenese, causing everyone to dislike him in the process.
Then the teachers come and whine about how we are mean.
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Turn out Lums was right, and his detractors, myself included, were wrong.
Going back and reading I can see the Administrator's point. Quite clearly, in fact.
I would like to offer an apology to Lumbergh.
It would only be a good point if that was even one of Lums first few posts and before he was ever a chode to people on this board. Neither is the case. It was an epic fail by Admin.
Masters said:
It would only be a good point if that was even one of Lums first few posts and before he was ever a chode to people on this board. Neither is the case. It was an epic fail by Admin.But what point is there to drag negativity from one thread to another? Lums post was perfectly reasonable in that particular thread.
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Again sorry about what I said, I was just thinking of where I started seeing all the name calling start. And I do remember Lum making some good posts but then he follows it up with 10 bad posts. He needs to stop the name calling and so does everybody else.
Don't be man - it's all good. I was just afraid this would devolve into another DA/BQ thread.
Pumpkin Eater, you should read the responses in this thread; that post is not representative of what Lumbergh regularly brought. That was one of the very few good ones.
For whatever reason, 'admin' has decided to turn this around and try to make the rest of us the bad guys when we simply reacted in kind. Lumbergh isn't the 'victim' here.
It's like the kid on the playground that people tolerate. However the kid wants attention so he calls names and makes a scenese, causing everyone to dislike him in the process.
Then the teachers come and whine about how we are mean.
Don't be man - it's all good. I was just afraid this would devolve into another DA/BQ thread.
Pumpkin Eater, you should read the responses in this thread; that post is not representative of what Lumbergh regularly brought. That was one of the very few good ones.
For whatever reason, 'admin' has decided to turn this around and try to make the rest of us the bad guys when we simply reacted in kind. Lumbergh isn't the 'victim' here.
It's like the kid on the playground that people tolerate. However the kid wants attention so he calls names and makes a scenese, causing everyone to dislike him in the process.
Then the teachers come and whine about how we are mean.
But as I said, why carry around hatred for a screen name on a message board? The original post was fine, but people attacked him anyway. I can see why he would be attacked if he had called everyone a BQ Fag along with the rest of his original post. But he didn't.
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Masters said:
It would only be a good point if that was even one of Lums first few posts and before he was ever a chode to people on this board. Neither is the case. It was an epic fail by Admin.But what point is there to drag negativity from one thread to another? Lums post was perfectly reasonable in that particular thread.
But what point is there to drag negativity from one thread to another? Lums post was perfectly reasonable in that particular thread.
You'd have to read all of the posts going on at that time. That is a post in a vacuum (notice Lum even had a post in that thread deleted by a mod, then went at the mod in that same thread).
Lum wasn't trying to be reasonable even w/ that one, he was trying to get the reaction he got. When one constantly instigates, the masses aren't going to suddenly go "he's a troll and tool 90% of the time, but since he wasn't in his OP, we'll forget everything". Life and the world does not work that way.
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Don't be man - it's all good. I was just afraid this would devolve into another DA/BQ thread.
Pumpkin Eater, you should read the responses in this thread; that post is not representative of what Lumbergh regularly brought. That was one of the very few good ones.
For whatever reason, 'admin' has decided to turn this around and try to make the rest of us the bad guys when we simply reacted in kind. Lumbergh isn't the 'victim' here.
It's like the kid on the playground that people tolerate. However the kid wants attention so he calls names and makes a scenese, causing everyone to dislike him in the process.
Then the teachers come and whine about how we are mean.
But as I said, why carry around hatred for a screen name on a message board? The original post was fine, but people attacked him anyway. I can see why he would be attacked if he had called everyone a BQ Fag along with the rest of his original post. But he didn't.
But as I said, why carry around hatred for a screen name on a message board? The original post was fine, but people attacked him anyway. I can see why he would be attacked if he had called everyone a BQ Fag along with the rest of his original post. But he didn't.
But he did in his other gagillion posts prior to that one example.
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