The Measurement
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Here's the rule ya silly Yinzers. You must control the ball when you hit the ground. He didn't, it clearly dislodged even though he still had it. It wasn't overturned from when he rolled over, it was the initial Quincy Morgan bobble that got him.
Why were both teams reacting as if Big Gay was short when they were looking at the measurement? That was ridiculous and a bad spot to begin with.
Since when is it an announcers job to comment on a supposed holding call he thinks he sees on a kickoff return? Not only that, the choad kept talking about for five fooking minutes. I have never seen that before in my life, but for some reason these things only seem to happen when Pittspuke is involved.
Yinz outplayed us and are better, but it still pisses me off you can't see the calls you always seem to get. We got a roughing call cuz our guy was being pulled and held by his facemask right into Big Gay. The ref was standing right there.
Good ole Pittspuke. For those that remember, this shit goes back to 1978 when Larry Anderson of the Steelers fumbled the opening kickoff in OT. Browns recovered, FG and game was over. They ruled him down, although nobody was within three yards of him. The great flea flicker to Bennie Cunningham ensued, another part of Steeler lore precipitated by complete bullshit.
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WTF
Unlike what I said in the tavern....that doesn't appear to be angle...all I can say is I wonder if the pole isn't the maker anymore and the white link is now the measuring point????
In baseball a tie goes to the runner...in football, do you have to make 10 yards or go over 10 yards??
I say go 10 yards.
In the end, that didn't cost us the game.
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WTF
Unlike what I said in the tavern....that doesn't appear to be angle...all I can say is I wonder if the pole isn't the maker anymore and the white link is now the measuring point????
In baseball a tie goes to the runner...in football, do you have to make 10 yards or go over 10 yards??
I say go 10 yards.
In the end, that didn't cost us the game.
Unlike what I said in the tavern....that doesn't appear to be angle...all I can say is I wonder if the pole isn't the maker anymore and the white link is now the measuring point????
In baseball a tie goes to the runner...in football, do you have to make 10 yards or go over 10 yards??
I say go 10 yards.
In the end, that didn't cost us the game.
I agree 100%. This shot seems close enough that they angle shouldn't matter.
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WTF
Unlike what I said in the tavern....that doesn't appear to be angle...all I can say is I wonder if the pole isn't the maker anymore and the white link is now the measuring point????
In baseball a tie goes to the runner...in football, do you have to make 10 yards or go over 10 yards??
I say go 10 yards.
In the end, that didn't cost us the game.
Unlike what I said in the tavern....that doesn't appear to be angle...all I can say is I wonder if the pole isn't the maker anymore and the white link is now the measuring point????
In baseball a tie goes to the runner...in football, do you have to make 10 yards or go over 10 yards??
I say go 10 yards.
In the end, that didn't cost us the game.
LOOK AT the Pink Tag at the Bottom. Its NOT a side angle its from the Left FRONT you can see the FACE of it . Are you seriously That stupid ????????????
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Here's the rule ya silly Yinzers. You must control the ball when you hit the ground. He didn't, it clearly dislodged even though he still had it. It wasn't overturned from when he rolled over, it was the initial Quincy Morgan bobble that got him.
Why were both teams reacting as if Big Gay was short when they were looking at the measurement? That was ridiculous and a bad spot to begin with.
Since when is it an announcers job to comment on a supposed holding call he thinks he sees on a kickoff return? Not only that, the choad kept talking about for five fooking minutes. I have never seen that before in my life, but for some reason these things only seem to happen when Pittspuke is involved.
Yinz outplayed us and are better, but it still pisses me off you can't see the calls you always seem to get. We got a roughing call cuz our guy was being pulled and held by his facemask right into Big Gay. The ref was standing right there.
Good ole Pittspuke. For those that remember, this shit goes back to 1978 when Larry Anderson of the Steelers fumbled the opening kickoff in OT. Browns recovered, FG and game was over. They ruled him down, although nobody was within three yards of him. The great flea flicker to Bennie Cunningham ensued, another part of Steeler lore precipitated by complete bullshit.
Here's the rule ya silly Yinzers. You must control the ball when you hit the ground. He didn't, it clearly dislodged even though he still had it. It wasn't overturned from when he rolled over, it was the initial Quincy Morgan bobble that got him.
Why were both teams reacting as if Big Gay was short when they were looking at the measurement? That was ridiculous and a bad spot to begin with.
Since when is it an announcers job to comment on a supposed holding call he thinks he sees on a kickoff return? Not only that, the choad kept talking about for five fooking minutes. I have never seen that before in my life, but for some reason these things only seem to happen when Pittspuke is involved.
Yinz outplayed us and are better, but it still pisses me off you can't see the calls you always seem to get. We got a roughing call cuz our guy was being pulled and held by his facemask right into Big Gay. The ref was standing right there.
Good ole Pittspuke. For those that remember, this shit goes back to 1978 when Larry Anderson of the Steelers fumbled the opening kickoff in OT. Browns recovered, FG and game was over. They ruled him down, although nobody was within three yards of him. The great flea flicker to Bennie Cunningham ensued, another part of Steeler lore precipitated by complete bullshit.
Dude he had a Catch.. Hit the Ground and Rolled over. As rolling over a SECOND time the ball came loose , shown More than enough control. They Plain of the Goal line was Broken. The Play was Dead as hit hot the ground and Still had the ball locked away... Thats BS and STILL A Judgement call. Typical BS NFL Replay. It doesnt work . And sill with you argument , it just shows NO Bias toward Pittsburgh. Or they would have said No Irrefutable evidence , and let it stand . After all they WANTED Pittsburgh to win... right ?? You guys aint gonna agree with me and I aint gonna agree with you. So , The refs ruled with You and we won anyway , so Thats life.
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Silverback My Bad Bro...misread your Post. Ignor my PM.
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Formerly Stone said:
I'd really like to see a straight angle view!What we have here is a parallax :
A simple everyday example of parallax can be seen in the dashboard of motor vehicles that use a "needle" type speedometer gauge (when the needle is mounted in front of its dial scale in a way that leaves a noticeable spacing between them). When viewed from directly in front, the speed may show 60 (i.e. the needle appears against the '60' mark on the dial behind); but when viewed from the passenger seat (i.e. from an oblique angle) the needle can appear against a slightly lower or higher mark (depending on whether it is viewed from the left or from the right), because of the combined effect of the spacing and the angle of view.
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Formerly Stone said:
Passenger seat is usually right of the driver seat.This is from the Dictionary there Dr. Stone. lol.... You think that all came from MY Brain ?? LOL
*Note but when viewed from the passenger seat (i.e. from an oblique angle) the needle can appear against a slightly lower OR higher mark (depending on whether it is viewed from the left or from the right) it doesn't say specifically Which in this description.
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Formerly Stone said:
just messin with ya bro!LOL... Thanks for thinking I am smart enough to pull that from my Dome though !!!
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This was probably the most mind-blowing thing I have ever witnessed in football. It was clearly not a first down. I can't even say anything else about it. I don't have the words. Would it have made a difference in the outcome? Most likely not, but how in the hell do you mess this up? This is worse than botching a coin toss.
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This was probably the most mind-blowing thing I have ever witnessed in football. It was clearly not a first down. I can't even say anything else about it. I don't have the words. Would it have made a difference in the outcome? Most likely not, but how in the hell do you mess this up? This is worse than botching a coin toss.
This was probably the most mind-blowing thing I have ever witnessed in football. It was clearly not a first down. I can't even say anything else about it. I don't have the words. Would it have made a difference in the outcome? Most likely not, but how in the hell do you mess this up? This is worse than botching a coin toss.
See the Above ....
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This was probably the most mind-blowing thing I have ever witnessed in football. It was clearly not a first down. I can't even say anything else about it. I don't have the words. Would it have made a difference in the outcome? Most likely not, but how in the hell do you mess this up? This is worse than botching a coin toss.
This was probably the most mind-blowing thing I have ever witnessed in football. It was clearly not a first down. I can't even say anything else about it. I don't have the words. Would it have made a difference in the outcome? Most likely not, but how in the hell do you mess this up? This is worse than botching a coin toss.
You mean the famous Jerome Bettis coin toss in Detroit?
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I'm surprised some really hasn't said anything about the spot of the ball instead of the view of the measurement. Anyone noticed when he dove he was stopped about a yard short but the ball was spotted at the front of the pile? Did he army crawl on the ground after the play to get there? Hehe
I think he's a 🥷 <-- that's supposed to be a ninja by the way.
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You Underdawgs must feel like the world is stacked against you when even the referees turn out to be Steelers fans. You got screwed on that call.
And you got screwed by Modell, Couch, Winslow, The Drive, Bradshaw, Ben, your sorry city, fate... hell, you have to speak of Bernie Never-Won-Anything Kosar in the same reverent tones that real teams reserve for the Montanas, Namaths and Aikmans of their past. It's a shame.
I applaud your dedicated fandom.
But you really should put up an over/under poll on whiny threads about cheating the day before the game so we can at least have someone benefit from your stale luck.
Pops
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Formerly Stone said:
I really wish there was a straight look at it. I just saw it again on ESPN and its clear that the angle of the camera is "way" off but why can't we see a straight angle?there are some pictures posted in some of the threads that give the best angle. we got hosed. i am not saying that it changed the outcome of the game or that the steelers cheat; but come on, you know that was a bs call.
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Unlike what I said in the tavern....that doesn't appear to be angle...all I can say is I wonder if the pole isn't the maker anymore and the white link is now the measuring point????
In baseball a tie goes to the runner...in football, do you have to make 10 yards or go over 10 yards??
I say go 10 yards.
In the end, that didn't cost us the game.
LOOK AT the Pink Tag at the Bottom. Its NOT a side angle its from the Left FRONT you can see the FACE of it . Are you seriously That stupid ????????????
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
LOOK AT the Pink Tag at the Bottom. Its NOT a side angle its from the Left FRONT you can see the FACE of it . Are you seriously That stupid ????????????Apparently so...I don't know what you are talking about when you talk about the pink tag at the bottom.
As I said earlier, I thought it was angle as my first impression.
While I know there is some angle in the shot, i don't know if it is enough to distort the view that much....thus why I said i wonder if the pole isn't the mark and the links on the chain are now the measuring point.
And left front angle?? Seems that would make it look over the line needed...do you mean left rear??
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Where is the ONE intelligent Steeler poster that comes here often to post. He usually makes sense.
The spot of the ball was a gift to big Ben. When watching the ref that was running up had the right spot. Then all of the sudden it was put a YARD further then it actually was. And after all that they still were short. And the refs give it to them? I'm still speechless. ANYONE that watched that play saw big BEN was short the 1st time and the time after they gave him that gift as a spot. Unbelievable.
Now the catch of Hines Ward. In my opinion and everyone else should be on board that, that was a catch. Rolled over two times and then lost the ball. IMO opinion TD. But in the NFL rulebook this year they said when catching a ball in the endzone for a TD you must maintain control through the whole process when hitting the GROUND. He didn't so by rule no catch.
You might have watched Sunday night football with the play to Johnny Knox. Where he didn't hit the ground got two feet in and then got the ball knocked out of his hands. Still a TD by rule cause he maintained possession of the ball withOUT hitting the ground.
In our opinion Ward caught the ball. But the nfl rules say he didn't. And he shouldn't have been in a position to catch shit because it was Clevelands ball. If they were playing the Patriots or Colts I would have to believe that it goes the other way.
And why did Mangini not run out there and lose his mind?
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I'm surprised some really hasn't said anything about the spot of the ball instead of the view of the measurement. Anyone noticed when he dove he was stopped about a yard short but the ball was spotted at the front of the pile? Did he army crawl on the ground after the play to get there? Hehe
I think he's a 🥷 <-- that's supposed to be a ninja by the way.
I'm surprised some really hasn't said anything about the spot of the ball instead of the view of the measurement. Anyone noticed when he dove he was stopped about a yard short but the ball was spotted at the front of the pile? Did he army crawl on the ground after the play to get there? Hehe
I think he's a 🥷 <-- that's supposed to be a ninja by the way.
I did point out that the spot of the ball might have been the biggest error in the whole thing (4th post in this same thread). We got the double whammy of a bad spot and phantom non-chain link (or two).
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Where is the ONE intelligent Steeler poster that comes here often to post. He usually makes sense.
The spot of the ball was a gift to big Ben. When watching the ref that was running up had the right spot. Then all of the sudden it was put a YARD further then it actually was. And after all that they still were short. And the refs give it to them? I'm still speechless. ANYONE that watched that play saw big BEN was short the 1st time and the time after they gave him that gift as a spot. Unbelievable.
Now the catch of Hines Ward. In my opinion and everyone else should be on board that, that was a catch. Rolled over two times and then lost the ball. IMO opinion TD. But in the NFL rulebook this year they said when catching a ball in the endzone for a TD you must maintain control through the whole process when hitting the GROUND. He didn't so by rule no catch.
You might have watched Sunday night football with the play to Johnny Knox. Where he didn't hit the ground got two feet in and then got the ball knocked out of his hands. Still a TD by rule cause he maintained possession of the ball withOUT hitting the ground.
In our opinion Ward caught the ball. But the nfl rules say he didn't. And he shouldn't have been in a position to catch shit because it was Clevelands ball. If they were playing the Patriots or Colts I would have to believe that it goes the other way.
And why did Mangini not run out there and lose his mind?
Where is the ONE intelligent Steeler poster that comes here often to post. He usually makes sense.
The spot of the ball was a gift to big Ben. When watching the ref that was running up had the right spot. Then all of the sudden it was put a YARD further then it actually was. And after all that they still were short. And the refs give it to them? I'm still speechless. ANYONE that watched that play saw big BEN was short the 1st time and the time after they gave him that gift as a spot. Unbelievable.
Now the catch of Hines Ward. In my opinion and everyone else should be on board that, that was a catch. Rolled over two times and then lost the ball. IMO opinion TD. But in the NFL rulebook this year they said when catching a ball in the endzone for a TD you must maintain control through the whole process when hitting the GROUND. He didn't so by rule no catch.
You might have watched Sunday night football with the play to Johnny Knox. Where he didn't hit the ground got two feet in and then got the ball knocked out of his hands. Still a TD by rule cause he maintained possession of the ball withOUT hitting the ground.
In our opinion Ward caught the ball. But the nfl rules say he didn't. And he shouldn't have been in a position to catch shit because it was Clevelands ball. If they were playing the Patriots or Colts I would have to believe that it goes the other way.
And why did Mangini not run out there and lose his mind?
Thank-you, saved me a post and long drwan out explanation. In a nut shell: By NFL Rule change, THAT was not a catch. They have been enforcing that rule since the biginning of the season, just as if you are forced out of bounds on a catch, it is no longer a catch had they determined you would have been inbounds without the bump. New rules ... end of story.
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