The Measurement
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Should they have STILL had possession after the measurement shows they didn't make it to the line to gain? They got 3 points from it and nobody saw Hines Ward arguing the call because that ball never got secured. Are we supposed to feel thankful the refs only handed you 3 points instead of 7?
Comeon, in 1 breath you guys want to act like you don't need any help against the Borwns and in the other breath you still THINK you need the refs.
- Tom F. (The Rooney Rule is they got it covered!)
But our perspective on the call was jaded. It was the angle. Look at replays , I though it was short as well Until the replay. You can see the Camera angle wasn't giving us the true Look. I do a Lot of Filming and Photography , I know this is the case. Its REAL Obvious when you watch the replay and are looking for it.
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
But our perspective on the call was jaded. It was the angle. Look at replays , I though it was short as well Until the replay. You can see the Camera angle wasn't giving us the true Look. I do a Lot of Filming and Photography , I know this is the case. Its REAL Obvious when you watch the replay and are looking for it.Guys stop fighting over this. It's over, man. They won, and we lost again. Yes, lost again. Let's all focus onto Green Bay.
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FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
Add to that IF the refs were "Helping" Pittsburgh they damn sure wouldn't have overturned Hines Wards TD which easily could have been ruled a Catch , esp. since it WAS Ruled a catch in the 1st place , and needed irrefutable evidence (Which there wasn't , he lost the ball on his 2nd Roll over) a little common sense here please.Um there was way more evidence than what they needed on that play. You have to complete the play without losing possession, which he clearly didn't. You could roll 800 times before losing the ball and it's an incompletion. You have to come to a stop with possession, thats when the play ends.
Its a pretty simple rule, you should be able to understand that, you're a pretty simple guy.
Um there was way more evidence than what they needed on that play. You have to complete the play without losing possession, which he clearly didn't. You could roll 800 times before losing the ball and it's an incompletion. You have to come to a stop with possession, thats when the play ends.
Its a pretty simple rule, you should be able to understand that, you're a pretty simple guy.
Dude NO way does that get over turned in many cases. Even the Play by Play guy was saying its a catch . Your jaded in your thinking , as I am . My friend a Philly Fan thought TD. my brother IN law (cowboy Fan) thought TD. Wilcots was doubting it, It was a TD on the Field HA D to be irrefutable thats why this system SUCKS . NO Consistency. I think if you line up 100 people , it would be 50/50 split. Which equals TD. NOT Irrefutable !!
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Um there was way more evidence than what they needed on that play. You have to complete the play without losing possession, which he clearly didn't. You could roll 800 times before losing the ball and it's an incompletion. You have to come to a stop with possession, thats when the play ends.
Its a pretty simple rule, you should be able to understand that, you're a pretty simple guy.
Dude NO way does that get over turned in many cases. Even the Play by Play guy was saying its a catch . Your jaded in your thinking , as I am . My friend a Philly Fan thought TD. my brother IN law (cowboy Fan) thought TD. Wilcots was doubting it, It was a TD on the Field HA D to be irrefutable thats why this system SUCKS . NO Consistency. I think if you line up 100 people , it would be 50/50 split. Which equals TD. NOT Irrefutable !!
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
Dude NO way does that get over turned in many cases. Even the Play by Play guy was saying its a catch . Your jaded in your thinking , as I am . My friend a Philly Fan thought TD. my brother IN law (cowboy Fan) thought TD. Wilcots was doubting it, It was a TD on the Field HA D to be irrefutable thats why this system SUCKS . NO Consistency. I think if you line up 100 people , it would be 50/50 split. Which equals TD. NOT Irrefutable !!I don't care if you have every mentally challenged person you know agreeing with you, it's still a simple rule, not one of the 'judgement call' rules that can be confusing. KEEP POSSESSION UNTIL THE PLAY IS DEAD. It's an end zone rule that is clearly written.
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Here's the rule ya silly Yinzers. You must control the ball when you hit the ground. He didn't, it clearly dislodged even though he still had it. It wasn't overturned from when he rolled over, it was the initial Quincy Morgan bobble that got him.
Why were both teams reacting as if Big Gay was short when they were looking at the measurement? That was ridiculous and a bad spot to begin with.
Since when is it an announcers job to comment on a supposed holding call he thinks he sees on a kickoff return? Not only that, the choad kept talking about for five fooking minutes. I have never seen that before in my life, but for some reason these things only seem to happen when Pittspuke is involved.
Yinz outplayed us and are better, but it still pisses me off you can't see the calls you always seem to get. We got a roughing call cuz our guy was being pulled and held by his facemask right into Big Gay. The ref was standing right there.
Good ole Pittspuke. For those that remember, this shit goes back to 1978 when Larry Anderson of the Steelers fumbled the opening kickoff in OT. Browns recovered, FG and game was over. They ruled him down, although nobody was within three yards of him. The great flea flicker to Bennie Cunningham ensued, another part of Steeler lore precipitated by complete bullshit.
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WTF
Unlike what I said in the tavern....that doesn't appear to be angle...all I can say is I wonder if the pole isn't the maker anymore and the white link is now the measuring point????
In baseball a tie goes to the runner...in football, do you have to make 10 yards or go over 10 yards??
I say go 10 yards.
In the end, that didn't cost us the game.
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WTF
Unlike what I said in the tavern....that doesn't appear to be angle...all I can say is I wonder if the pole isn't the maker anymore and the white link is now the measuring point????
In baseball a tie goes to the runner...in football, do you have to make 10 yards or go over 10 yards??
I say go 10 yards.
In the end, that didn't cost us the game.
Unlike what I said in the tavern....that doesn't appear to be angle...all I can say is I wonder if the pole isn't the maker anymore and the white link is now the measuring point????
In baseball a tie goes to the runner...in football, do you have to make 10 yards or go over 10 yards??
I say go 10 yards.
In the end, that didn't cost us the game.
I agree 100%. This shot seems close enough that they angle shouldn't matter.
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WTF
Unlike what I said in the tavern....that doesn't appear to be angle...all I can say is I wonder if the pole isn't the maker anymore and the white link is now the measuring point????
In baseball a tie goes to the runner...in football, do you have to make 10 yards or go over 10 yards??
I say go 10 yards.
In the end, that didn't cost us the game.
Unlike what I said in the tavern....that doesn't appear to be angle...all I can say is I wonder if the pole isn't the maker anymore and the white link is now the measuring point????
In baseball a tie goes to the runner...in football, do you have to make 10 yards or go over 10 yards??
I say go 10 yards.
In the end, that didn't cost us the game.
LOOK AT the Pink Tag at the Bottom. Its NOT a side angle its from the Left FRONT you can see the FACE of it . Are you seriously That stupid ????????????
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Here's the rule ya silly Yinzers. You must control the ball when you hit the ground. He didn't, it clearly dislodged even though he still had it. It wasn't overturned from when he rolled over, it was the initial Quincy Morgan bobble that got him.
Why were both teams reacting as if Big Gay was short when they were looking at the measurement? That was ridiculous and a bad spot to begin with.
Since when is it an announcers job to comment on a supposed holding call he thinks he sees on a kickoff return? Not only that, the choad kept talking about for five fooking minutes. I have never seen that before in my life, but for some reason these things only seem to happen when Pittspuke is involved.
Yinz outplayed us and are better, but it still pisses me off you can't see the calls you always seem to get. We got a roughing call cuz our guy was being pulled and held by his facemask right into Big Gay. The ref was standing right there.
Good ole Pittspuke. For those that remember, this shit goes back to 1978 when Larry Anderson of the Steelers fumbled the opening kickoff in OT. Browns recovered, FG and game was over. They ruled him down, although nobody was within three yards of him. The great flea flicker to Bennie Cunningham ensued, another part of Steeler lore precipitated by complete bullshit.
Here's the rule ya silly Yinzers. You must control the ball when you hit the ground. He didn't, it clearly dislodged even though he still had it. It wasn't overturned from when he rolled over, it was the initial Quincy Morgan bobble that got him.
Why were both teams reacting as if Big Gay was short when they were looking at the measurement? That was ridiculous and a bad spot to begin with.
Since when is it an announcers job to comment on a supposed holding call he thinks he sees on a kickoff return? Not only that, the choad kept talking about for five fooking minutes. I have never seen that before in my life, but for some reason these things only seem to happen when Pittspuke is involved.
Yinz outplayed us and are better, but it still pisses me off you can't see the calls you always seem to get. We got a roughing call cuz our guy was being pulled and held by his facemask right into Big Gay. The ref was standing right there.
Good ole Pittspuke. For those that remember, this shit goes back to 1978 when Larry Anderson of the Steelers fumbled the opening kickoff in OT. Browns recovered, FG and game was over. They ruled him down, although nobody was within three yards of him. The great flea flicker to Bennie Cunningham ensued, another part of Steeler lore precipitated by complete bullshit.
Dude he had a Catch.. Hit the Ground and Rolled over. As rolling over a SECOND time the ball came loose , shown More than enough control. They Plain of the Goal line was Broken. The Play was Dead as hit hot the ground and Still had the ball locked away... Thats BS and STILL A Judgement call. Typical BS NFL Replay. It doesnt work . And sill with you argument , it just shows NO Bias toward Pittsburgh. Or they would have said No Irrefutable evidence , and let it stand . After all they WANTED Pittsburgh to win... right ?? You guys aint gonna agree with me and I aint gonna agree with you. So , The refs ruled with You and we won anyway , so Thats life.
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Silverback My Bad Bro...misread your Post. Ignor my PM.
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Formerly Stone said:
I'd really like to see a straight angle view!What we have here is a parallax :
A simple everyday example of parallax can be seen in the dashboard of motor vehicles that use a "needle" type speedometer gauge (when the needle is mounted in front of its dial scale in a way that leaves a noticeable spacing between them). When viewed from directly in front, the speed may show 60 (i.e. the needle appears against the '60' mark on the dial behind); but when viewed from the passenger seat (i.e. from an oblique angle) the needle can appear against a slightly lower or higher mark (depending on whether it is viewed from the left or from the right), because of the combined effect of the spacing and the angle of view.
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Formerly Stone said:
Passenger seat is usually right of the driver seat.This is from the Dictionary there Dr. Stone. lol.... You think that all came from MY Brain ?? LOL
*Note but when viewed from the passenger seat (i.e. from an oblique angle) the needle can appear against a slightly lower OR higher mark (depending on whether it is viewed from the left or from the right) it doesn't say specifically Which in this description.
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Formerly Stone said:
just messin with ya bro!LOL... Thanks for thinking I am smart enough to pull that from my Dome though !!!
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This was probably the most mind-blowing thing I have ever witnessed in football. It was clearly not a first down. I can't even say anything else about it. I don't have the words. Would it have made a difference in the outcome? Most likely not, but how in the hell do you mess this up? This is worse than botching a coin toss.
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This was probably the most mind-blowing thing I have ever witnessed in football. It was clearly not a first down. I can't even say anything else about it. I don't have the words. Would it have made a difference in the outcome? Most likely not, but how in the hell do you mess this up? This is worse than botching a coin toss.
This was probably the most mind-blowing thing I have ever witnessed in football. It was clearly not a first down. I can't even say anything else about it. I don't have the words. Would it have made a difference in the outcome? Most likely not, but how in the hell do you mess this up? This is worse than botching a coin toss.
See the Above ....
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This was probably the most mind-blowing thing I have ever witnessed in football. It was clearly not a first down. I can't even say anything else about it. I don't have the words. Would it have made a difference in the outcome? Most likely not, but how in the hell do you mess this up? This is worse than botching a coin toss.
This was probably the most mind-blowing thing I have ever witnessed in football. It was clearly not a first down. I can't even say anything else about it. I don't have the words. Would it have made a difference in the outcome? Most likely not, but how in the hell do you mess this up? This is worse than botching a coin toss.
You mean the famous Jerome Bettis coin toss in Detroit?
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I'm surprised some really hasn't said anything about the spot of the ball instead of the view of the measurement. Anyone noticed when he dove he was stopped about a yard short but the ball was spotted at the front of the pile? Did he army crawl on the ground after the play to get there? Hehe
I think he's a 🥷 <-- that's supposed to be a ninja by the way.
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You Underdawgs must feel like the world is stacked against you when even the referees turn out to be Steelers fans. You got screwed on that call.
And you got screwed by Modell, Couch, Winslow, The Drive, Bradshaw, Ben, your sorry city, fate... hell, you have to speak of Bernie Never-Won-Anything Kosar in the same reverent tones that real teams reserve for the Montanas, Namaths and Aikmans of their past. It's a shame.
I applaud your dedicated fandom.
But you really should put up an over/under poll on whiny threads about cheating the day before the game so we can at least have someone benefit from your stale luck.
Pops
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Formerly Stone said:
I really wish there was a straight look at it. I just saw it again on ESPN and its clear that the angle of the camera is "way" off but why can't we see a straight angle?there are some pictures posted in some of the threads that give the best angle. we got hosed. i am not saying that it changed the outcome of the game or that the steelers cheat; but come on, you know that was a bs call.
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Unlike what I said in the tavern....that doesn't appear to be angle...all I can say is I wonder if the pole isn't the maker anymore and the white link is now the measuring point????
In baseball a tie goes to the runner...in football, do you have to make 10 yards or go over 10 yards??
I say go 10 yards.
In the end, that didn't cost us the game.
LOOK AT the Pink Tag at the Bottom. Its NOT a side angle its from the Left FRONT you can see the FACE of it . Are you seriously That stupid ????????????
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
LOOK AT the Pink Tag at the Bottom. Its NOT a side angle its from the Left FRONT you can see the FACE of it . Are you seriously That stupid ????????????Apparently so...I don't know what you are talking about when you talk about the pink tag at the bottom.
As I said earlier, I thought it was angle as my first impression.
While I know there is some angle in the shot, i don't know if it is enough to distort the view that much....thus why I said i wonder if the pole isn't the mark and the links on the chain are now the measuring point.
And left front angle?? Seems that would make it look over the line needed...do you mean left rear??
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