Heyman: Indians Hire Acta

[Kosar_For_President]

@dieselpusher said:

What's the differences, advantages of him over Wedge???

158-252 career managerial record. Be ready for 3, 100 loss seasons.

[Beanpot]

@dieselpusher said:

What's the differences, advantages of him over Wedge???

Hey DP, check out this thread for a little bit of talk about the guy:

http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php...t=0&start=0

Not sure it answers how he compares to Wedge so much, but it'll give you an idea about his philosophy. Basically, he's a fan of game theory and doesn't exactly embrace small-ball. I'm thrilled with his stance on both of those issues, but it's still going to come down to talent, no matter who fills out the lineup card.

Beanpot

[Browns]

I'm not sure how next season will go.

[Beanpot]

@kosar_for_president said:

158-252 career managerial record. Be ready for 3, 100 loss seasons.

C'mon KFP. We can play that sort of game all day long. Joe Torre was 894-1003 before taking over the Yankees. Should they have expected to win only 47% of their games since that's what Torre had done previously?

Again, it's going to come down to talent on the field.

Beanpot

[CIMO.]

Yep, he's definitely grown on me the last few weeks. DiaTribe with a great point on the search...

If Acta could have a destination other than Cleveland this off-season, it seems that Don Mattingly may be keeping his address as Jon Heyman asserts that there is an understanding in place to keep Mattingly in Chavez Ravine as the heir apparent to Joe Torre:

So while no one is saying it officially, the Dodgers are one team that truly has a manager in waiting. (According to Torre, the wait will be one more year, as he reiterated to SI.com that it's his intention to make 2010 his last year as Dodgers manager.)

--snip--

Mattingly said he believes Torre when he says he intends to make 2010 his last season managing the Dodgers. "He's not as leverage-the-media guy," Mattingly said. "But nobody knows the future."

Mattingly understands the future isn't guaranteed to anyone. But his looks pretty secure in Dodger blue.

Could we suddenly be looking at a “always the bridesmaid, never the bride” situation emerging here?

I suppose if anything can be taken from these possibilities, it’s the fact that at least we’re looking at guys other teams are interested in and are targeting managerial candidates that other teams feel just as strongly about. To that end (and to bring this around to a couple of names NOT on the “finalist” list), when was the last time you heard of an interview for Hargrove when a managerial position (or even a coaching position) arose in the past…how about Tony Pena?

http://clevelandtribeblog.blogspot.com/200...-tomahawks.html

[Browns]

Is there going to be a press conference?

[Beanpot]

suns said:

Is there going to be a press conference?

Tomorrow at 4:00, I think.

Beanpot

[Beanpot]

Castro confirms the presser:

The Indians will hold a press conference with Acta at 4 p.m. ET Monday at Progressive Field.

http://castrovince.mlblogs.com/archives/20...acta_their.html

Beanpot

[Browns]

@beanpot said:

Castro confirms the presser:

The Indians will hold a press conference with Acta at 4 p.m. ET Monday at Progressive Field.

http://castrovince.mlblogs.com/archives/20...acta_their.html

Beanpot

I won't be home...

[Beanpot]

Good stuff from Diatribe, CIMO. Here's how the Houston Chronicle reported that he turned down the Stros for the Tribe:

Less than two weeks since declaring a potential return to the Astros as too good to be true, Manny Acta ended talks with the club after intense flirtations Saturday. Instead, he chose the Cleveland Indians.

According to a person with knowledge of the negotiations, the length of the Astros’ offer to Acta became a major hang up on Saturday night.

The Indians hired Acta on Sunday, giving him a three-year deal with a club option for 2013.

Acta, who began his playing and coaching career in the Astros' farm system, was one of three confirmed finalists to replace Cecil Cooper, along with Boston Red Sox bench coach Brad Mills and former Astros manager Phil Garner, who led the franchise to the 2005 World Series.

Asked if they regretted losing Acta, Astros general manager Ed Wade wouldn’t say.

“I’m not getting into this,” he said. “We’re conducting our business in private.”

It was no secret that Acta was a finalist for the Indians’ job.

“It’s like playing the lotto; the more tickets you play, the more chances you have to win,” Acta said after he interviewed with the Astros. “I think it speaks volumes for the respect we have among our peers and we feel blessed that at least we’re able to be – if you want to call it in demand – with two clubs.”

Astros owner Drayton McLane didn’t want to comment on Acta either Sunday.

“We got some more to go,” he said. “Until we get that down. We’re just not going to make any comment. It would not be appropriate.”

Acta, 40, went 158-252 with the Washington Nationals, who let him go after he began his third season this year 26-61 with a club that was considered throughout baseball to have some of the worst talent in the majors.

Acta spent the first 17 years of his professional career with the Astros’ organization until current New York Mets general manager Omar Minaya, who was the Expos’ GM at the time, hired him to become a coach with the Montreal Expos just weeks before the 2002 season.

Dealing with some players who were older, Acta served as the third-base coach of the Expos from 2002 through 2004 before he was hired to become third-base coach of the Mets for the 2005 season.

Arizona Diamondbacks manager A.J. Hinch, 34, is the only manager in the majors younger than Acta, who had been the majors’ youngest active manager since he was 37 in his first season with the Nationals in 2007 until Hinch was hired this May.

The Dominican Republic’s manager for the inaugural World Baseball Classic in 2006, Acta is a dual citizen of the Dominican Republic and the U.S. since 1999. Moreover, he has made his home in Kissimmee, Fla., for more than a decade with his wife Cindy and their two daughters, Jennifer and Leslie.

Kissimmee, the spring home of the Astros since 1985, has been home for Acta since he played for the club’s Class A Florida State League affiliate Osceola in 1988 and parts of the 1989 and 1990 seasons. After hitting .257 with two home runs and 35 RBIs with Burlington in 1991, Acta transitioned into player development at 22 years of age.

“As I mentioned, it would be too good to be true,” Acta said two weeks ago about managing the Astros. “It will give everybody who shows up over here to watch the ballgames a chance or a hope to manage this club. I grew up being an Astro and ended up being signed by them and working for 17 years in the minor leagues.

“And I guess everybody who’s a fan of the Astros will have a shot. It’s amazing because, as I mentioned, I owe them everything, including my wife. I met her while playing in the minor leagues for them.”

The former minor league infielder has specialized in working with young infielders, helping young All-Stars David Wright and Jose Reyes during his tenure as coach with the Mets while also helping veteran shortstop Orlando Cabrera in 2003. Those skills could have been crucial with the Astros in 2010, considering rookies Chris Johnson and Tommy Manzella might man the left side of the infield next season.

Since becoming a minor-league manager with the Astros in 1993 with Auburn of the New York-Penn League through 2000 with Kissimmee of the Florida State League, Acta managed Roy Oswalt in the Florida State League in 2000, Lance Berkman in instructional league and Wandy Rodriguez in the Dominican Winter League.

He also managed Miguel Tejada, Albert Pujols, David Ortiz and Alfonso Soriano to the semifinals of the WBC in 2006. He also has kept close tabs on the Astros’ organization throughout the year, taking time out of a discussion with the Chronicle on a late night in December 2008 at the Winter Meetings in Las Vegas to praise the progress of catcher Jason Castro, the club’s first-round pick in the June 2008 draft.

At that time, he predicted that Castro might be ready by the 2010 season or maybe even late in 2009. Wade also has said that Castro might be ready this year, but Acta wasn't fooling himself about the task with the Astros.

This past season the Astros finished 74-88 for fifth place in the National League Central, 17 games behind the first-place St. Louis Cardinals.

“There’s some work to do, let’s be honest,” he said after his initial interview with the Astros. “The left side of the infield obviously needs some work and the catching situation has given this team some problems up until Castro’s ready to come in and step up. Yeah, I’m not saying anything here that you guys don’t know. I believe that Roy and Wandy need a little bit of a supporting cast, but there’s some bright spots there.

“(Bud) Norris threw the ball very well at the end and (Felipe) Paulino showed flashes and the bullpen was lot better than the numbers show. Guys like (Jeff) Fulchino really stepped up and (Sammy) Gervacio and (LaTroy) Hawkins did a tremendous job. The (free agent Jose) Valverde thing, it’s another situation that needs to be resolved. This team, the main thing is they have some good core players in place and with a couple of supporting cast can be right back in it again.”

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/6685437.html

Beanpot

[Beanpot]

Assuming the link remains active, here's Kurkjian with a video take on the hiring. I think he explains exactly why Acta deserved the job and why it's nothing short of silly to use his previous W/L record as an indicator of future performance:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4593663

Beanpot

[CIMO.]

There aren't very many individual people who would transform our W-L record anyway. I'm thinking along the lines of Greinke, Mauer, and Pujols. We could have Sciosia or Torre or Girardi or whoever managing and we still wouldn't be anyone's favorites. It all still comes down to the players.

One thing that's hard to dispute is what this means for Fausto. Once again one of our most important players, and there's obviously a confidence/comfort issue with him. Hopefully Acta gives him someone to relate to and actually communicate with, and hopefully bring him back to his old self.

[JohnG71097]

@cimo. said:

There aren't very many individual people who would transform our W-L record anyway. I'm thinking along the lines of Greinke, Mauer, and Pujols. We could have Sciosia or Torre or Girardi or whoever managing and we still wouldn't be anyone's favorites. It all still comes down to the players.

One thing that's hard to dispute is what this means for Fausto. Once again one of our most important players, and there's obviously a confidence/comfort issue with him. Hopefully Acta gives him someone to relate to and actually communicate with, and hopefully bring him back to his old self.

I think it is a good hire

Now will they let him be his own man and bring aboard his own staff

or will they try and force Nunally and Radinsky onto his staff

[Kosar_For_President]

@beanpot said:

Again, it's going to come down to talent on the field.

That is really what I was getting at here Bean. It doesn't matter who is there, we just don't have the talent to win.

[Beanpot]

@kosar_for_president said:

That is really what I was getting at here Bean. It doesn't matter who is there, we just don't have the talent to win.

Can't argue with that.

Still, I think this hire was actually kind of inspiring. Shows that the organization remains firmly in the camp of advanced metrics.

And also that they're firmly in the camp of budget constraints.

So it's kinda win/win/lose.

Like you said, nothing is going to change until we get more talent on the field.

Beanpot

[Kosar_For_President]

@beanpot said:

Like you said, nothing is going to change until we get more talent on the field.

And I don't see that happening ANYTIME soon. I for one have already announced not buying my tickets for next year (group season tickets). The group is not going to buy them. They are fed up and I just won't do it. I think fan support is going to be very low, and that means unless Laporta jacks 50 HR's and some of the other players step up, it's going to be 100 loss season.

[ClevelandFanForLife]

the reason i don't like him is because he is a wedge clone. if you look at how he managed, he mimicked wesge in a lot of ways. this choice sucks.

[CIMO.]

I don't think we sniff 100 losses, really. And if we do, it won't be because of the offense.

We could definitely use a reliable, true cleanup hitter (and maybe that's LaPorta), but regardless, this offense will score a lot of runs. A fresh Sizemore, more Brantley leading off, a full season of LaPorta barring any surgery setbacks. Choo is becoming one of the best all-around offensive players in the AL. Santana will be up at some point, maybe Chisenhall, and I don't see Acta having Wedge's problems with getting the young guys regular ABs.

The pitching staff has too many questions for me to even guess how they finish....but that's what the season (and foreseeable future) comes down to. We need to get solid-at-worst seasons from Westbrook and Fausto... Sipp and Chris Perez to keep up their pace, and some semblance of stability from Wood.

[Kosar_For_President]

@cimo. said:

I don't think we sniff 100 losses, really. And if we do, it won't be because of the offense.

We could definitely use a reliable, true cleanup hitter (and maybe that's LaPorta), but regardless, this offense will score a lot of runs. A fresh Sizemore, more Brantley leading off, a full season of LaPorta barring any surgery setbacks. Choo is becoming one of the best all-around offensive players in the AL. Santana will be up at some point, maybe Chisenhall, and I don't see Acta having Wedge's problems with getting the young guys regular ABs.

The pitching staff has too many questions for me to even guess how they finish....but that's what the season (and foreseeable future) comes down to. We need to get solid-at-worst seasons from Westbrook and Fausto... Sipp and Chris Perez to keep up their pace, and some semblance of stability from Wood.

I do appreciate your optimism CIMO. But their A LOT of if's in there. Too many for me to count on this team not losing 90-100 games. 3 proven players (and Wood is still leaving the ball up).

[Browns]

@cimo. said:

I don't think we sniff 100 losses, really. And if we do, it won't be because of the offense.

We could definitely use a reliable, true cleanup hitter (and maybe that's LaPorta), but regardless, this offense will score a lot of runs. A fresh Sizemore, more Brantley leading off, a full season of LaPorta barring any surgery setbacks. Choo is becoming one of the best all-around offensive players in the AL. Santana will be up at some point, maybe Chisenhall, and I don't see Acta having Wedge's problems with getting the young guys regular ABs.

The pitching staff has too many questions for me to even guess how they finish....but that's what the season (and foreseeable future) comes down to. We need to get solid-at-worst seasons from Westbrook and Fausto... Sipp and Chris Perez to keep up their pace, and some semblance of stability from Wood.

I think sizemore will lead off.