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  • Browns fans are so jealous of everything Steelers. It is sad you cannot compete in the AFC North.

    But the Steelers, Ravens, and now the Bengals are competing for king of the hill and the browns are 1-7.

    THE RAGING JEALOUSY OF THE STEELERS SUCCESS continues in Cleveland.. How sad..

  • OK, I will conduct this exercise myself. This would be my priority list of who is HOF worthy from the names I posted. Please let me know if you think I left anyone off:

    1. Jerry Rice

    2. Chris Carter

    3. Marvin Harrison

    4. Tony Gonzales

    5. Randy Moss

    6. Tim Brown

    7. Terrell Owens

    8. Shannon Sharpe

    9. Isaac Bruce

    10. TJ Houshmanzedah

    11. Andre Reed

    12. Art Powell

    13. Hines Ward

    14. Tori Holt

    15. Muhsin Muhammed

    16. Donald Driver

    17. Chad Octopussy

    18. Irving Fryar

    19. Joey Galloway

    20. Eric Moulds

    21. Laverneus Coles

    22. Derrick Mason

  • Browns fans are so jealous of everything Steelers. It is sad you cannot compete in the AFC North.

    But the Steelers, Ravens, and now the Bengals are competing for king of the hill and the browns are 1-7.

    THE RAGING JEALOUSY OF THE STEELERS SUCCESS continues in Cleveland.. How sad..

    @djhero said:

    Browns fans are so jealous of everything Steelers. It is sad you cannot compete in the AFC North.

    But the Steelers, Ravens, and now the Bengals are competing for king of the hill and the browns are 1-7.

    THE RAGING JEALOUSY OF THE STEELERS SUCCESS continues in Cleveland.. How sad..

    Are you so dimwitted as to not be able to engage in a meaningful discussion/debate on any subject whatsoever? You were too dumb even to answer one single question on Steeler History.

  • Browns fans are so jealous of everything Steelers. It is sad you cannot compete in the AFC North.

    But the Steelers, Ravens, and now the Bengals are competing for king of the hill and the browns are 1-7.

    THE RAGING JEALOUSY OF THE STEELERS SUCCESS continues in Cleveland.. How sad..

    @djhero said:

    Browns fans are so jealous of everything Steelers. It is sad you cannot compete in the AFC North.

    But the Steelers, Ravens, and now the Bengals are competing for king of the hill and the browns are 1-7.

    THE RAGING JEALOUSY OF THE STEELERS SUCCESS continues in Cleveland.. How sad..

    That's completely missing the point. I wouldn't like Ward any more in a Browns uniform. God, that would truly suck. It was hard for me when Butch Davis was coach, and I thought of him as an asshole. I want players/coaches I respect and care about.

  • OK, I will conduct this exercise myself. This would be my priority list of who is HOF worthy from the names I posted. Please let me know if you think I left anyone off:

    1. Jerry Rice

    2. Chris Carter

    3. Marvin Harrison

    4. Tony Gonzales

    5. Randy Moss

    6. Tim Brown

    7. Terrell Owens

    8. Shannon Sharpe

    9. Isaac Bruce

    10. TJ Houshmanzedah

    11. Andre Reed

    12. Art Powell

    13. Hines Ward

    14. Tori Holt

    15. Muhsin Muhammed

    16. Donald Driver

    17. Chad Octopussy

    18. Irving Fryar

    19. Joey Galloway

    20. Eric Moulds

    21. Laverneus Coles

    22. Derrick Mason

    @the-gipper said:

    OK, I will conduct this exercise myself. This would be my priority list of who is HOF worthy from the names I posted. Please let me know if you think I left anyone off:

    1. Jerry Rice

    2. Chris Carter

    3. Marvin Harrison

    4. Tony Gonzales

    5. Randy Moss

    6. Tim Brown

    7. Terrell Owens

    8. Shannon Sharpe

    9. Isaac Bruce

    10. TJ Houshmanzedah

    11. Andre Reed

    12. Art Powell

    13. Hines Ward

    14. Tori Holt

    15. Muhsin Muhammed

    16. Donald Driver

    17. Chad Octopussy

    18. Irving Fryar

    19. Joey Galloway

    20. Eric Moulds

    21. Laverneus Coles

    22. Derrick Mason

    I think the HOF list ends at #9 with the exception of possibly #17 Chad Ochostinko because his mouth makes him so well known and even liked by some of the voters.

  • I am a diehard Browns fan & this isn't politically correct in NE Ohio, but...

    Hines Ward is one HELL of a football player & I just wish the Browns had him.

    Mike

  • I am a diehard Browns fan & this isn't politically correct in NE Ohio, but...

    Hines Ward is one HELL of a football player & I just wish the Browns had him.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    I am a diehard Browns fan & this isn't politically correct in NE Ohio, but...

    Hines Ward is one HELL of a football player & I just wish the Browns had him.

    Mike

    If we had him, I would like him. He is a good tough player. I don't think anyone denies that. It's just that in about 1 in every 100 plays he does something that his peers feel is beyond the realm of proper conduct.

    Again, I don't know why a Steeler fan would complain to us about this. It was the other 1643 NFL football players in the league from Seattle to Miami, from New England to San Diego that placed the distinction on him as dirtiest player in the league. It wasn't Cleveland Browns fans.

    If he were on the Browns, absolutely we would probably overlook his shortcomings.

    By the way, and let me know if anyone agrees with me: I still think Albert Belle had every right to clean Fernando Vina's clock even though a lot of people raged about what a dirty play it was. You all know what I am talking about. No way. Vina's butt was in the way and AB did what he had to do to break up that double play. Maybe Steeler fans see Whiney the way we saw Albert.

  • Zombo said:

    You have Houshmanzedah WAY too high.

    Zombo

    In retrospect, I think perhaps you are right. He should go down about 17/18.

  • I just can't agree. Even if he were a Brown, I'd still dislike Ward in spite of how much improved our offense would be with a veteran, tough presence at that position. He's just too smug and plays too dirty.

  • Again DJ I will ask you, why are you dedicating hours of your life to a Browns board if your not a fan? It would be different if you talked football but you dont. Just think all that time you spend on here signing up, reading the post, and posting yourself could be used for something useful, such as a dna test to find out which uncle you have that is also your dad? Did the bully at school have a Browns hat on when he took your lunch money? Is that why your here, on the internet, running your mouth? Trying to get back at him or something?

  • @canton-mike said:

    I am a diehard Browns fan & this isn't politically correct in NE Ohio, but...

    Hines Ward is one HELL of a football player & I just wish the Browns had him.

    Mike

    If we had him, I would like him. He is a good tough player. I don't think anyone denies that. It's just that in about 1 in every 100 plays he does something that his peers feel is beyond the realm of proper conduct.

    Again, I don't know why a Steeler fan would complain to us about this. It was the other 1643 NFL football players in the league from Seattle to Miami, from New England to San Diego that placed the distinction on him as dirtiest player in the league. It wasn't Cleveland Browns fans.

    If he were on the Browns, absolutely we would probably overlook his shortcomings.

    By the way, and let me know if anyone agrees with me: I still think Albert Belle had every right to clean Fernando Vina's clock even though a lot of people raged about what a dirty play it was. You all know what I am talking about. No way. Vina's butt was in the way and AB did what he had to do to break up that double play. Maybe Steeler fans see Whiney the way we saw Albert.

    @the-gipper said:

    If we had him, I would like him. He is a good tough player. I don't think anyone denies that. It's just that in about 1 in every 100 plays he does something that his peers feel is beyond the realm of proper conduct.

    Again, I don't know why a Steeler fan would complain to us about this. It was the other 1643 NFL football players in the league from Seattle to Miami, from New England to San Diego that placed the distinction on him as dirtiest player in the league. It wasn't Cleveland Browns fans.

    If he were on the Browns, absolutely we would probably overlook his shortcomings.

    By the way, and let me know if anyone agrees with me: I still think Albert Belle had every right to clean Fernando Vina's clock even though a lot of people raged about what a dirty play it was. You all know what I am talking about. No way. Vina's butt was in the way and AB did what he had to do to break up that double play. Maybe Steeler fans see Whiney the way we saw Albert

    .

    Joey Albert Belle's slide into Vina was a good hard play, not dirty. His use of corked bats and the way he tried to get hide the evidence = dirty. I liked the guy when he played in Cleveland but he had major anger management issues...

    Hines Ward - somewhat dirty but we'd probably love him if he played for the Browns.

  • Still avoiding the questions eh? What would your friends think if they knew you were reading about the Browns and cared enough to sign up for the board?

  • Again DJ I will ask you, why are you dedicating hours of your life to a Browns board if your not a fan? It would be different if you talked football but you dont. Just think all that time you spend on here signing up, reading the post, and posting yourself could be used for something useful, such as a dna test to find out which uncle you have that is also your dad? Did the bully at school have a Browns hat on when he took your lunch money? Is that why your here, on the internet, running your mouth? Trying to get back at him or something?

    @speedyd900rr said:

    Again DJ I will ask you, why are you dedicating hours of your life to a Browns board if your not a fan? It would be different if you talked football but you dont. Just think all that time you spend on here signing up, reading the post, and posting yourself could be used for something useful, such as a dna test to find out which uncle you have that is also your dad? Did the bully at school have a Browns hat on when he took your lunch money? Is that why your here, on the internet, running your mouth? Trying to get back at him or something?

    That DJHero guy is a typical Steeler Fan moron. His sort is why the Steelers have the reputation around the league as having the dumbest fan base. I mean, it ain't just Browns fans that think that way because we have a lot of interaction with them. It is people from Seattle, Green Bay, Miami, NFC/AFC everywhere you go.

    The reputable, reasoned Steeler fan, (and we do get a few of them here) has no chance to remedy the affliction foisted up them by this, more prevalent, form of their brethren.

  • @the-gipper said:

    If we had him, I would like him. He is a good tough player. I don't think anyone denies that. It's just that in about 1 in every 100 plays he does something that his peers feel is beyond the realm of proper conduct.

    Again, I don't know why a Steeler fan would complain to us about this. It was the other 1643 NFL football players in the league from Seattle to Miami, from New England to San Diego that placed the distinction on him as dirtiest player in the league. It wasn't Cleveland Browns fans.

    If he were on the Browns, absolutely we would probably overlook his shortcomings.

    By the way, and let me know if anyone agrees with me: I still think Albert Belle had every right to clean Fernando Vina's clock even though a lot of people raged about what a dirty play it was. You all know what I am talking about. No way. Vina's butt was in the way and AB did what he had to do to break up that double play. Maybe Steeler fans see Whiney the way we saw Albert

    .

    Joey Albert Belle's slide into Vina was a good hard play, not dirty. His use of corked bats and the way he tried to get hide the evidence = dirty. I liked the guy when he played in Cleveland but he had major anger management issues...

    Hines Ward - somewhat dirty but we'd probably love him if he played for the Browns.

    @dumasswhiteguy said:

    Joey Albert Belle's slide into Vina was a good hard play, not dirty. His use of corked bats and the way he tried to get hide the evidence = dirty. I liked the guy when he played in Cleveland but he had major anger management issues...

    Hines Ward - somewhat dirty but we'd probably love him if he played for the Browns.

    Actually, AB didn't slide into Vina, he made Vina land on his ass from a good forearm....but....it WAS still a good hard play to break up a potential DP.

  • FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

    LOL Your not very Intelligent are you ??

    I am but i just like being an asshat. lol

    @medicineman said:

    I am but i just like being an asshat. lol

    lol ok... I can deal with that !

  • Browns fans are so jealous of everything Steelers. It is sad you cannot compete in the AFC North.

    But the Steelers, Ravens, and now the Bengals are competing for king of the hill and the browns are 1-7.

    THE RAGING JEALOUSY OF THE STEELERS SUCCESS continues in Cleveland.. How sad..

    @djhero said:

    Browns fans are so jealous of everything Steelers. It is sad you cannot compete in the AFC North.

    But the Steelers, Ravens, and now the Bengals are competing for king of the hill and the browns are 1-7.

    THE RAGING JEALOUSY OF THE STEELERS SUCCESS continues in Cleveland.. How sad..

    Dont pile on Brother... I Think they know where they stand. Hence the Animosity !!

  • @speedyd900rr said:

    Again DJ I will ask you, why are you dedicating hours of your life to a Browns board if your not a fan? It would be different if you talked football but you dont. Just think all that time you spend on here signing up, reading the post, and posting yourself could be used for something useful, such as a dna test to find out which uncle you have that is also your dad? Did the bully at school have a Browns hat on when he took your lunch money? Is that why your here, on the internet, running your mouth? Trying to get back at him or something?

    That DJHero guy is a typical Steeler Fan moron. His sort is why the Steelers have the reputation around the league as having the dumbest fan base. I mean, it ain't just Browns fans that think that way because we have a lot of interaction with them. It is people from Seattle, Green Bay, Miami, NFC/AFC everywhere you go.

    The reputable, reasoned Steeler fan, (and we do get a few of them here) has no chance to remedy the affliction foisted up them by this, more prevalent, form of their brethren.

    @the-gipper said:

    That DJHero guy is a typical Steeler Fan moron. His sort is why the Steelers have the reputation around the league as having the dumbest fan base. I mean, it ain't just Browns fans that think that way because we have a lot of interaction with them. It is people from Seattle, Green Bay, Miami, NFC/AFC everywhere you go.

    The reputable, reasoned Steeler fan, (and we do get a few of them here) has no chance to remedy the affliction foisted up them by this, more prevalent, form of their brethren

    .

    Gip .. we dont have that Reputation around the League !! LOL...Your killing me...lol. The Bengals Have that ALL to themselves. Dont be taking away their sunshine !!!

  • OK, I will conduct this exercise myself. This would be my priority list of who is HOF worthy from the names I posted. Please let me know if you think I left anyone off:

    1. Jerry Rice

    2. Chris Carter

    3. Marvin Harrison

    4. Tony Gonzales

    5. Randy Moss

    6. Tim Brown

    7. Terrell Owens

    8. Shannon Sharpe

    9. Isaac Bruce

    10. TJ Houshmanzedah

    11. Andre Reed

    12. Art Powell

    13. Hines Ward

    14. Tori Holt

    15. Muhsin Muhammed

    16. Donald Driver

    17. Chad Octopussy

    18. Irving Fryar

    19. Joey Galloway

    20. Eric Moulds

    21. Laverneus Coles

    22. Derrick Mason

    @the-gipper said:

    OK, I will conduct this exercise myself. This would be my priority list of who is HOF worthy from the names I posted. Please let me know if you think I left anyone off:

    1. Jerry Rice

    2. Chris Carter

    3. Marvin Harrison

    4. Tony Gonzales

    5. Randy Moss

    6. Tim Brown

    7. Terrell Owens

    8. Shannon Sharpe

    9. Isaac Bruce

    10. TJ Houshmanzedah

    11. Andre Reed

    12. Art Powell

    13. Hines Ward

    14. Tori Holt

    15. Muhsin Muhammed

    16. Donald Driver

    17. Chad Octopussy

    18. Irving Fryar

    19. Joey Galloway

    20. Eric Moulds

    21. Laverneus Coles

    22. Derrick Mason

    I would have Hines a few spots higher, but mostly agree with your list. Unlike most HOF worthy wrs, Hines is at his best in the slot. If Hines starts reducing his role to be more of a slot reciever he can possibly play 6-7 more years. During this time he will rack up receptions and tds and most importanly won't be looking to make the Hall the same time all the other wrs will be. He willcome in the mix a few years later. Everybody considers Hines a football player first, reciever second. That gives Hines unique factors the other recievers don't bring. He was one a run heavy Cowher team for the majority of his career and still put up HOF stats. He also has two rings, Super Bowl MVP, known for his blocking/physical play and owns the longest active streak of consecutive games with a catch (168).

  • What I was trying to say is Hines is a shitbag

    @medicineman said:

    What I was trying to say is Hines is a shitbag

    Yep I second that motion

  • He is considered dirty because he redefined the position. He started blocking downfield, and not giving up. Defensive backs wer not use to this, so it became an issue. Truth is, he plays the game as it should be played

    Fact is, he plays hard. You can blindside a QB can't you? Well, he blindsides players trying to tackle a member of his team with the ball. Its football.

    This board defends our "tough" defensive coordinator for talking trash with the opposing team. But a wide reciever that blocks and knocks other players around? Must be dirty.