No QB in 2010.
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I'm not sure why everyone is still against BQ. Regardless of how much he has played, and his performances, I think he has the work ethic to be a good QB. He's unproven still. Troy Aikman was won one game his rookie year. BQ hasn't even had a chance to play consistently enough to show that he is capable of growing and learning.
We have a 1st Round QB that has done nothing since we drafted him, give him a chance to play the rest of the year and then maybe we can talk more about possible QB's. Too early IMO.
I'm not sure why everyone is still against BQ.
Oh, I'm not against him at all. I think he got a raw deal, and hasn't had any time to develop on the field like he needs. I'm just saying that we might as well stick with BQ through his growing pains, rather than draft another rookie and start all over again. If he doesn't work out after having a year and a half under his belt, then we go after a vet, not draft another rookie. As far as I'm concerned I think BQ has quicker upside than a new rookie... He is still fresh like a rookie, not having played much, he has a few years of study under his belt, and he is smart.
I would rather see him given the time to develop then to cast him off and start from square one again.
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I'm not sure why everyone is still against BQ. Regardless of how much he has played, and his performances, I think he has the work ethic to be a good QB. He's unproven still. Troy Aikman was won one game his rookie year. BQ hasn't even had a chance to play consistently enough to show that he is capable of growing and learning.
We have a 1st Round QB that has done nothing since we drafted him, give him a chance to play the rest of the year and then maybe we can talk more about possible QB's. Too early IMO.
I agree but if he is as unwatchable as he was in the first 2.5 games...then::::: I can tell you one thing: We can't afford to "NOT" reach for a quarterback, at least in the first three rounds!
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All good points, I do not believe a QB is the solution to this teams problems, we have issues in several other areas. I would rather pick up a veteran and let him come in and try to make things watchable, at the very least
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Solon
you seem to have relaxed a little on the 1st pick being a qb, now i can agree with you
Well imo, suh is a once in a decade talent... and because i think we can get a good Qb in the second round.
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Solon
you seem to have relaxed a little on the 1st pick being a qb, now i can agree with you
Well imo, suh is a once in a decade talent... and because i think we can get a good Qb in the second round.
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Early First round picks in 2011 will become (already have) a LOT more valuable......the lesser risk (salary wise) creates greater value.
Good post by the way
ps do you have a job....
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I think Mangini needs to make his choice between Quinn and Anderson at the end of the year, then get rid of the other. At that point, if they think Ratliff can be a reliable second, draft a second day QB with potential, if not on the Ratliff question, bring in a serviceable journeyman and have him compete for the starting spot. The first two three rounds they need to go for the best players at position of need they can get this year. Build a cockpit and a defense for a QB, then maybe a QB will have a chance here.
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I think Mangini needs to make his choice between Quinn and Anderson at the end of the year, then get rid of the other. At that point, if they think Ratliff can be a reliable second, draft a second day QB with potential, if not on the Ratliff question, bring in a serviceable journeyman and have him compete for the starting spot. The first two three rounds they need to go for the best players at position of need they can get this year. Build a cockpit and a defense for a QB, then maybe a QB will have a chance here.
I think Mangini needs to make his choice between Quinn and Anderson at the end of the year, then get rid of the other. At that point, if they think Ratliff can be a reliable second, draft a second day QB with potential, if not on the Ratliff question, bring in a serviceable journeyman and have him compete for the starting spot. The first two three rounds they need to go for the best players at position of need they can get this year. Build a cockpit and a defense for a QB, then maybe a QB will have a chance here.
Somewhere in your mind, do you actually beleive DA should be in any equation for our roster next year?
Make a choice? Like a choice is even needed. DA should not be on an NFL roster, well maybe a practice squad.
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I think Anderson is as good as gone. NO way would you want to keep him with his big salary (not guaranteed) for 2010. Quinn has a very light basic salary comparable to the average backup Qb salary and Ratliff is at the NFL minimum.
I agree that bringing in a veteran QB as a stopgap would be a good move because I'm not sold on this years QB class. Especially with a top 5 pick. There are some interesting guys I'd take a flyer on later in the draft but as of now, not a high #1.
There are too many needs on this team and too many top guys like Suh and Berry. We desparately need a RB, shutdown corner, LB, RT and TE.
If there's a can't miss QB available I'd say take him but I don't see it.
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Er... Like who?
Please don't tell me Tebow.
Case Keenum (if he comes out), pike will fall to second round, Colt McCoy will fall to second round, Dan lafevor might fail to third, Plenty of Qb's better than what we have from second round on...
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All I know is that watching comedy hour with Jay Cutler and the Bears last night made me feel comparatively good about our QB situation.
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All I know is that watching comedy hour with Jay Cutler and the Bears last night made me feel comparatively good about our QB situation.McDaniels certainly should get a high amount of respect from his team after "downgrading" his QB position. There were quite a few predictions that the Broncos would be flirting with a winless season this year as they initiated their rebuilding.
Lerner may even regret passing on McDaniels and choosing Eric "Augustus Gloop" Mangini instead
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I thnk the best QB's for the value in this draft are Pat Devlin, Tony Pike, and Dan LeFevour. They'll be there in the later rounds, and I believe they will make just as much of an impact as your Sam Bradfords, Colt McCoys, Jake Lockers, etc. I don't think we should go for a QB right off the bat, we can afford to stick it out until round 3. I would be happy with any one of the three aforementioned "late-rounders", I think they each bring something to the game that is lacking right now.
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Er... Like who?
Please don't tell me Tebow.
Case Keenum (if he comes out), pike will fall to second round, Colt McCoy will fall to second round, Dan lafevor might fail to third, Plenty of Qb's better than what we have from second round on...
Case Keenum (if he comes out), pike will fall to second round, Colt McCoy will fall to second round, Dan lafevor might fail to third, Plenty of Qb's better than what we have from second round on...
Being from the Lone Star State myself, I am biased but I think that those three will make good pros. They won't start from day one so prolong your Brady Quinn experiment or bring in some vet that's hanging on.
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Case Keenum (if he comes out), pike will fall to second round, Colt McCoy will fall to second round, Dan lafevor might fail to third, Plenty of Qb's better than what we have from second round on...
Being from the Lone Star State myself, I am biased but I think that those three will make good pros. They won't start from day one so prolong your Brady Quinn experiment or bring in some vet that's hanging on.
Being from the Lone Star State myself, I am biased but I think that those three will make good pros. They won't start from day one so prolong your Brady Quinn experiment or bring in some vet that's hanging on.
Well, I don't trust those Lone Star QBs. Look at the guys that have come out of Texas Tech and Houston and places like that who lit their college leagues on fire but could do nada in the NFL. Exhibit A: Andre Ware Exhibit B: David Klingler
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Being from the Lone Star State myself, I am biased but I think that those three will make good pros. They won't start from day one so prolong your Brady Quinn experiment or bring in some vet that's hanging on.
Well, I don't trust those Lone Star QBs. Look at the guys that have come out of Texas Tech and Houston and places like that who lit their college leagues on fire but could do nada in the NFL. Exhibit A: Andre Ware Exhibit B: David Klingler
Well, I don't trust those Lone Star QBs. Look at the guys that have come out of Texas Tech and Houston and places like that who lit their college leagues on fire but could do nada in the NFL. Exhibit A: Andre Ware Exhibit B: David Klingler
I knew Andre Ware and I could've told you he would be a bust. Comparing Colt McCoy who will likely finish with the highest completion rating in the history of college football with the U of H QBs from 20 years ago is not a fair comparison.
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I think Mangini needs to make his choice between Quinn and Anderson at the end of the year, then get rid of the other. At that point, if they think Ratliff can be a reliable second, draft a second day QB with potential, if not on the Ratliff question, bring in a serviceable journeyman and have him compete for the starting spot. The first two three rounds they need to go for the best players at position of need they can get this year. Build a cockpit and a defense for a QB, then maybe a QB will have a chance here.
Somewhere in your mind, do you actually beleive DA should be in any equation for our roster next year?
Make a choice? Like a choice is even needed. DA should not be on an NFL roster, well maybe a practice squad.
Somewhere in your mind, do you actually beleive DA should be in any equation for our roster next year?
Make a choice? Like a choice is even needed. DA should not be on an NFL roster, well maybe a practice squad.
I believe at least one of these two should be jettisoned. What happens if Brady comes in and leads the Browns to 24 first downs the rest of the season? I suggest keeping one of them only because the entire team kind of sucks, and it'd be good to have one of them to come in already "knowing the offense" to compete with a veteran journeyman to keep him honest. I don't see the team bring in an entire cadre of new faces at the QB position.
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Jake Locker is being hyped up by people who watch him on highlights because if you would actually sit down and watch him for a full game, you'll realize how inaccurate and overrated he is.
His career completion percentage is below 55 percent and is only completing 56% of his passes this year.
If it weren't for his legs no one would notice him. He is below average. No thanks.
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Rob Rang said:
Colt McCoy, QB, TexasMcCoy might have helped his Heisman campaign by passing for 470 yards against Central Florida last Saturday, but NFL scouts came away alarmed on several fronts.
Against an overmatched Golden Knights defense, McCoy still repeatedly stared down his receivers and often forced balls into coverage. One of his passes was intercepted, and several more could have been.
Taking snaps out of the shotgun, McCoy appeared unwilling to step up in the pocket and instead often drifted outside of it. When his primary read was covered, McCoy struggled to make the adjustment, leaving open targets unchecked and either forcing passes to covered receivers (often wide receiver Jordan Shipley) or scrambling.
On multiple occasions, including near his own end zone, McCoy would drift wide, wait for a receiver to streak across the middle and then fire passes across his body into the teeth of the defense. McCoy was able to get away with it against UCF. Against NFL speed, he would have been intercepted on multiple occasions.
I've rated McCoy as the top senior quarterback all season and I continue to believe he has the talent to be a starter in the NFL. I also believe he'll be the first senior quarterback drafted. His athleticism, toughness, short-to-intermediate accuracy and winning percentage cannot simply be ignored.
However, McCoy proved much less NFL-ready than I'd hoped for a four-year starter against inferior competition. Considering the host of other concerns NFL scouts have (relative lack of size, marginal arm strength, transition from a spread offense), teams needing immediate quarterback help from the 2010 draft will be looking to underclassmen. -- Rob Rang
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