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  • Mr. T Mr. TM
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    Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by Mr. T
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    It’s Over, Al Gore.

    Abandon your lucrative carbon-scheming, admit there was never a ‘consensus’ and give back the Nobel Peace Prize

    Aaron Dykes

    December 3, 2009

    Al Gore has just cancelled a high-profile appearance at the upcoming Copenhagen climate change conference only days after ‘ClimateGate’ revelations cast doubt on the legitimacy of the scientific ‘consensus’ ("hiding the decline" is not scientific in any respect). Just days ago, CRU director Phil Jones stepped down from his position at East Anglia University.

    Further, Gore has been confronted by We Are Change and other groups at book signing events everywhere he goes– and apparently his only response to charges of fraud is to unleash his goons to drag out dissenters. Sounds like Eco-fascism to me. It’s easy to reach consensus when opponents are barred from the conversation (see video below).

    Its Over Gore

    Head or Gut?
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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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      Well, these goofs have no business interrupting a public gathering vs Al Gore, anymore than they have business doing the same

      to Palin, or anybody else.

      I find it intriguing that Gore ADMITS to the man made global warming movement as a political movement.

      Some of us have been saying that for a long time. Now, not even Shep can come and say Gore is not using

      it politically.

      It's a fraud. A political fraud. A lot like Obamao's "Hope and Change". Just words to get votes from anybody they get get to buy into it.

      Very sadly dishonest.

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      • Kosar_For_President Kosar_For_PresidentK
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        Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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        More from the horses ass. It's great when we can say I TOLD YOU SO YOU SHEEP. Where is Ed Beagly when you need him. I know, he lying face down with his dick in a compost pile.

        It's so f*cked up how the media spins this issue. Sure we want clean water and fish. Sure we want our family to breath cleaner air. And sure we want less dependency on foreign oil, I AGREE! But as soon as you don't agree that it is linked to Global Warming your a crazy conspiracy theorist.

        I was reading an article (sorry no link) on how the extermination of Whales will have a bigger impact then greenhouse gasses on the climate. What the f*ck is Hore doing to curtail that?

        Admits Emails are "Damaging", in other words, we lied.

        Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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        • heckofajobbrownie H
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          H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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          Let's try it this way:

          We know that CO2 molecules absorb/radiate heat, which is why CO2 is a "greenhouse gas". That's just basic physics.

          We know that we can accurately measure the amount of C02 in the atmosphere, and do so all year round, from multiple sources. And we know that the amount of man-made CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing every year. That's just a measurement.

          We can also distinguish between CO2 in the atmosphere that's emitted from natural sources, and man-made CO2. That's just chemistry.

          Knowing all this - that CO2 molecules radiate heat, that they already perform a greenhouse function in the atmosphere, and that we're increasing the amount of man-made CO2 in the atmosphere every year - what do you think is going to happen to global temperatures over time?

          And that's just CO2. Add in increased amounts of methane, whose molecules radiate eight times the heat of C02, the elimination of carbon sinks due to deforestation, feedback loops caused by the increased melting of the permafrost, feedback loops caused by the increased melting of the ice caps, etc.

          If someone can explain away any of this, you can win a Nobel Prize. But you can't. It's just basic science.

          Kosar, you should know better. Or maybe you shouldn't.

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            Let's try it this way:

            We know that CO2 molecules absorb/radiate heat, which is why CO2 is a "greenhouse gas". That's just basic physics.

            We know that we can accurately measure the amount of C02 in the atmosphere, and do so all year round, from multiple sources. And we know that the amount of man-made CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing every year. That's just a measurement.

            We can also distinguish between CO2 in the atmosphere that's emitted from natural sources, and man-made CO2. That's just chemistry.

            Knowing all this - that CO2 molecules radiate heat, that they already perform a greenhouse function in the atmosphere, and that we're increasing the amount of man-made CO2 in the atmosphere every year - what do you think is going to happen to global temperatures over time?

            And that's just CO2. Add in increased amounts of methane, whose molecules radiate eight times the heat of C02, the elimination of carbon sinks due to deforestation, feedback loops caused by the increased melting of the permafrost, feedback loops caused by the increased melting of the ice caps, etc.

            If someone can explain away any of this, you can win a Nobel Prize. But you can't. It's just basic science.

            Kosar, you should know better. Or maybe you shouldn't.

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            @heckofajobbrownie said:

            If someone can explain away any of this, you can win a Nobel Prize.

            Now that's truly funny Heck.

            Please don't pretend you were serious.

            😁

            WSS

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              H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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              Um, I will not pretend to be that thing you think I shouldn't be so that you might stumble on an attempt at an Obama joke. Aye-aye.

              But thanks for reminding me not to bother. Just thought I'd see what was up in the fever swamp. Like a ghost town in here.

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                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                I'm sure it's very stimulating in Puking Hard. Everyone patting each other on the back. I'm sure anyone with a different point of view would just be banned. The "Fairness Doctrine" site. It's not as busy over here because we don't have the clowns over here throwing insults at everyone. It is actually nice over here now. I enjoy it.

                "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                  Um, I will not pretend to be that thing you think I shouldn't be so that you might stumble on an attempt at an Obama joke. Aye-aye.

                  But thanks for reminding me not to bother. Just thought I'd see what was up in the fever swamp. Like a ghost town in here.

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                  @heckofajobbrownie said:

                  Um, I will not pretend to be that thing you think I shouldn't be so that you might stumble on an attempt at an Obama joke. Aye-aye.

                  But thanks for reminding me not to bother. Just thought I'd see what was up in the fever swamp. Like a ghost town in here.

                  You're quite welcome Heck.

                  I fully understand.

                  AFAIK there's no political forum over at the new Valhalla and that's probably just as well.

                  From what I can tell it was built on the idea of banning anybody who liked the wrong players.

                  The political board, run under that mindset, would be like Bob's Country Bunker "We have both kinds of opinions here; left and far left."

                  But as the reality of the Obama presidency sinks in there's probably not much you can defend.

                  But hey, why bother?

                  When unemployment gets back to 4% the deficit disappears we all have top notch health care at an affordable price and they break ground for a hunndred new Walmarts in Afghanistan you can come back and gloat.

                  (plus you got to say "fever swamp" again! I'll see that and raise you a Kool Aid.)

                  WSS

                  ps tell me you aren't just a little bit embarrassed by the seeming fraud on your eco warrior side.....

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    So, the pro gw scientists lament that they can't prove that gw is tied to CO2 increases...

                    algore says that gw is a political movement, and Heck shows up to

                    reiterate some stuff from moveonupgore'sleg.orgy?

                    Priceless.

                    I hope they are having fun playing verbal footsie with each other

                    over wherever they are.

                    May they always speak as one, in peace and harmony,

                    so we can ROF,LOAO....

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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      Meanwhile, in another arrogant and ignorant display of fraud:

                      Copenhagen climate summit: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhage...iar-wedges.html

                      http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international...yyvy19b0ZTHaGwO

                      1,200 limos, 140 private planes and caviar wedges

                      Copenhagen is preparing for the climate change summit that will produce as much carbon dioxide as a town the size of Middlesbrough

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