Julies gay Super Bowl Debate

[jully]

Defending Super Bowl Champions.

Those four words are not in any person's vernacular describing the Clevelend Browns.

This is not an insult just a fact I wanted to present for the Christmas holidays.

Cheers!

[Kosar_For_President]

@jully said:

Defending Super Bowl Champions.

Those four words are not in any person's vernacular describing the Clevelend Browns.

This is not an insult just a fact I wanted to present for the Christmas holidays.

Cheers!

That's the best you got? This just in, the defending Super Bowl Champions just lost to a 1-11 team with 3rd stringers in. LOL!!!

[Gips]

To browns fans its no big deal ,we are all to aware of the fact 3 words are as close as we will get in our lifetimes bernie ,bernie...superbowl!

However it has to be rough to be a bandwagon stooler fan and to have lost to the lowly browns ,it should signal to you that cowhers build is falling apart and a painful rebuild era will soon be underway and that means you will have to seek a new champion to bandwagon ,hey the saints are lookin good! Muhahahaha!

[blowe]

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That should do for now.

[calfoxwc]

When the Browns DO get to the Super Bowl, it will be after the squeelers are suffering from at least a two year drought.

[DumAssWhiteGuy]

@jully said:

no, I am a steeler's fan from way back and back them every year. Are you proud you beat the defending Super Bowl champs without ever having become a defending super bowl champ?

how many years do you need to become defending super bowl champs? 100? 200? 300?

Notice to all bandwagon Steeler fans, this just in: The NFL just didn't start having championship games in 1974! They've had them every year since 1933!

Oh what's that you say? Those 40 something years before the Steelers finally won one don't count? What have you done lately? Oh that's right, you lost to a bunch of practice team players and waiver wire pick ups.

[The Gipper]

@jully said:

Defending Super Bowl Champions.

Those four words are not in any person's vernacular describing the Clevelend Browns.

This is not an insult just a fact I wanted to present for the Christmas holidays.

Cheers!

Actually, on 7 different occasions the Browns were Defending Champions. We could go back and call every title game in history a "Super Bowl". The Super Bowl part of it don't mean dick. That is just a marketing name, like Defending K-Mart Blue Light Special champs, or the Insight.com Bowl champs.

In fact, I am surprised that the NFL hasn't sold the naming rights of the Super Bowl or the AFC and NFC Championship games. Rest assured, someday it will come. Then perhaps a comment can be made that "one thing you can't say about the Steelers is that they have never been the Jack Links Beef Jerky Bowl Champions.

[bonedawg]

You know, I thought that stomping the steelers asses and making them cry like little bitches last week would really cut down the amount of Stooler troll fans on this board, but for some reason it has made more appear. Don't feed the trolls people.

[The Gipper]

@jully said:

no, I am a steeler's fan from way back and back them every year. Are you proud you beat the defending Super Bowl champs without ever having become a defending super bowl champ?

how many years do you need to become defending super bowl champs? 100? 200? 300?

I suspect that the Browns will be a Defending Jack Links Beef Jerky NFL Title Bowl Champion before the next time the Steelers will be able to claim to be the defending RotoRooter NFL Title Bowl Champions.

[The Gipper]

@jully said:

well give me a year when the Browns go to or win a super bowl. when?

Give us the next year the Steelers will next go to a SB or win it?

[DumAssWhiteGuy]

@jully said:

Pittsburgh averages a Super Bowl every 7.16 years.. so you know..soon!

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What you should have said is the Steelers average an NFL Championship once every 12.83 years and the Browns average one every 7.5 years.

[The Gipper]

@jully said:

notice: The game has evolved into a highly competitive league since the merger and the name that owns the most is the Pittsburgh Steelers.

When the going gets tough the Browns sit on the sofa and watch all of the other teams in January / February.

If you don't think the league wasn't highly competitive in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, how about we let you try to tackle Bronko Nagurski. He was a 6'2" 230 pound running back. Or Marion Motley, he was 6'1, 240 pounds. Those guys were the same size, or bigger than the likes of Franco Harris.

How about we let you play blocking dummy for Chuck Bednarik. He was a 6'3, 235 pound middle linebacker. Ray Lewis is only a 6'1" 240 pound MLB. Bednarik could knock someone's head off better than Lewis could...ask Frank Gifford.

Or how would you like to stand in at QB when 6'4" 250 lb. Len Ford was coming after you. That is the same height and weight as today's rushing ends. Kameron Wimbley is only 6'3" 255.

(the difference is sizes is ONLY with the OL , and interior DL from the 40s to now. Only the guys that could put on fat. The "skill" players now, QB, RB, WR, DBs, speed rushers, even middle LBs are the same size as then.

[The Gipper]

@jully said:

Pittsburgh averages a Super Bowl every 7.16 years.. so you know..soon!

And the Browns at the point their dynasty was going high averaged a Super Bowl once every two years.

I suspect that the Steelers will not see another Super Bowl for 50 years.

[The Gipper]

[Pittsburgh averages a Super Bowl every 7.16 years.. so you know..soon!

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What you should have said is the Steelers average an NFL Championship once every 12.83 years and the Browns average one every 7.5 years.

I don't think a Steeler fan like that could actually do math that sophisticated. You probably have to spell it out for them:

The Steelers have been in existance since 1933, and have 6 titles. 77 years of existance divided by 6 equals the 12.83.

The Browns have been in existance since 1946 and have 8 titles. Take out the 3 years of inactivity, and that is 8 titles in 61years or 7.625.

Now, if you actually go back to the origin of the NFL in 1920, and you take the 13 Championships the Cleveland area has in those now 90 years, you get on title every 6.92 years, the best ratio in the nation. (and actually, it is probably better than that since we could take out the 3 years in the 90s where there was no team, plus several years in the mid 30s when Cleveland didn't have a team)

While it is true that this area has been giving all the other cities in the country plenty of opportunities to close that ratio gap, no one else has quite done it. Only Green Bay which has a title once every 7.41 years comes close. Dallas could come a little close. They have had 6 titles in 50 years, or one every 8.33 years.

[Alendor]

actually 4 of the championships were won in the AAFC, while the other 4 were won after the browns joined the NFL. As you may not know, the Championship game wasn't renamed to the Superbowl for some time after the browns joined the NFL. So technically the browns have 4 superbowl wins, but due to venacular, they are championship games instead of superbowls. the only difference is naming conventions.

[DawgTracker]

I would be grasping at straws if I were you too! Merry Christmas, enjoy the down slide of your team

[The Gipper]

@jully said:

AAFC was a league of seven teams of which three were only good enough to merge into the NFL. you have to be kidding that the NFL would recognize a 7 team league and compare the champ to today's super bowl winners.

YOU have to be kidding that you are this ignorant about history. The NFL was only a 10 league team then. And the AAFC was 8 teams. So they were essentially the same size. If we don't recognize the AAFC champs, then we can't recognize the NFL champs either.

And again, you sound like a perfect candidate for a dose of Zyklon B. Oh, but you probably don't believe that ever really existed, do you?

[BUNSofSTEEL08]

@kosar_for_president said:

That's the best you got? This just in, the defending Super Bowl Champions just lost to a 1-11 team with 3rd stringers in. LOL!!!

duh....

[BUNSofSTEEL08]

@jully said:

AAFC was a league of seven teams of which three were only good enough to merge into the NFL. you have to be kidding that the NFL would recognize a 7 team league and compare the champ to today's super bowl winners.

Don`t argue with them on the Minor League Titles they won...ther is Not ONE Damn fan changing his mind over ANYTHING you have to say ( Or Any of us ). And that goes for every subject. Stupid is as STUPID does... and The Browns Backers do a whole lot of Stupid on this Board. A WHOLE lot.

[Alendor]

just the other day you were bitching about how you have always been a stand up guy on this board. guess it only took a day or 2 to prove yourself wrong.