Troy Smith for QB
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chad henne looks a millions times better than quinn
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Quinn set the TD/INT ratio record for FBS (was broken this year). He was a better college QB, projected to a better NFL QB, and no scouts ever doubted that.
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LOL - yeah, ok buddy....
He has a Heisman lol mm?
He has a Heisman lol mm?
LOL, yeah and so was Eric Crouch....and Gino Torreta...and Charlie Ward...and Andre Ware....and Danny Wuerffel... and .... shall I continue?
Troy Smith is a potential starter..... in the CFL or UFL.
Take off the scarlet and grey glasses...yeesh.
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No way. He is to short. Yeah he may have won the Heisman but he will never be a great Pro.
No way. He is to short. Yeah he may have won the Heisman but he will never be a great Pro.
hes to short huh???what about drew brees i thought he was too short. if your a good qb your a good qb
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Quinn set the TD/INT ratio record for FBS (was broken this year). He was a better college QB, projected to a better NFL QB, and no scouts ever doubted that.
Quinn set the TD/INT ratio record for FBS (was broken this year). He was a better college QB, projected to a better NFL QB, and no scouts ever doubted that.
Trodgers,
Good point about the stats. He had some good highlights too. The trouble with that is we don't play Army, Navy, Air Force, Stanford, Michigan State and all those other teams you can get stat fat with. It seemed like he laid eggs against Bowl opponents and the real teams on the schedule. This might be why there were mixed reviews with the scouts or Quinn doesn't slide all the way into the 20s of round 1 and to a team that already made the 3rd selection overall. The same guy that drafted Kyle Boller and Charlie Frye was the taker. FWIW, Savage also felt starting his gig out with Trent Dilfer as leadoff QB, Frye on deck and the battle of DA & BQ in the hole did just that. Mangini had to dig to China to get us out of the Savage hole. Thank God Phil didn't trade up to get the QB he really wanted: Dumbarcus Russell.
Troy has some degree of experience and Harbaugh wanted to start the kid in 2008 before he lost almost 20 pounds to a freaky throat infection. I'd like to see the battle of Troy here. Pretty spirals doesn't win football games and ALL those Chicago fans that couldn't wait to replace a WINNER at QB are watching some of the best spirals ever delivered to the opposing jerseys. Meanwhile, Denver is a more legit contender in 09 than they were in 08 minus the Cutler millions. Winners win and I think Troy reminds me alot of Drew Brees with the non-proto-typical height but good vision. I saw alot of poise in him too. I swam against the grain and gave him 1 mulligan in college because he won most of their BIG games.
I hate the idea of training another inexperienced QB because it feels like we've spent a decade on hurry up and wait while we debate love or hate. There's been about 20,000 fire the OC and Head Coach threads since 1999.
- Tom F.
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as does their OC compared to Dumbell.
It's not Quinn or DA or anyone at QB...they all have been bad for one main reason/constant..... Brian Dumbell.
Quinn kept overthrowing or underthrowing...how is that OC fault.
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The Browns should give him a shot. He wants to play here, it would sell tickets cause he is a former Ohio State players, and he is a hometown boy.
+- Strong arm, mobility which could help.
-- Short.
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No way. He is to short. Yeah he may have won the Heisman but he will never be a great Pro.
No way. He is to short. Yeah he may have won the Heisman but he will never be a great Pro.
I'm not saying that Troy Smith is the answer for the Browns. But, I will say that the knock on Drew Brees was that he is too short...I don't think that you have a very good argument there!
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Troy Smith? Tim Tebow? I don't even know whether people are being serious at this point.
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No way. He is to short. Yeah he may have won the Heisman but he will never be a great Pro.
No way. He is to short. Yeah he may have won the Heisman but he will never be a great Pro.
Drew Brees?
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you guys seriously need to stop with this "let's try another rookie"
STOP.
it's not a way we're going. Think and dream about it all you want, most of us simply don't see it happening.
(but then again.................this is Cleveland...)
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He has a Heisman lol mm?
So did Charlie Ward. And Gino Toretta. And Andre Ware?
Whats your point, exactly? WHat's that Heisman done for him in the NFL? Nada.....
So did Charlie Ward. And Gino Toretta. And Andre Ware?
Whats your point, exactly? WHat's that Heisman done for him in the NFL? Nada.....
My point was simply who was the better college QB.
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So did Charlie Ward. And Gino Toretta. And Andre Ware?
Whats your point, exactly? WHat's that Heisman done for him in the NFL? Nada.....
My point was simply who was the better college QB.
My point was simply who was the better college QB.
Yep, Quinn was indeed the better QB. more yds, more tds, better college career numbers overall. now if ND only had a decent D
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Drew Brees? I don't think anyone would mind him. Obviously, we have no one on our roster fit to carry his jock at this point.
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