What would you say to Holmgren?
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keep mangini
strengthen the defense
work BQ and the receiving corp to death in the offseason
nickel beer day @ cleveland browns stadium
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If you build it they will come!
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I'm just going to go ahead and paste what I wrote on another thread. This is a good idea, by the way.
Dear Mr. Holmgren,
On behalf of Browns Nation, I want to take this time to welcome you to the Browns family. You are now presiding over the most loyal and desperate fan base in the National Football League. That should tell you all you need to know about us. Mr. Holmgren, I don't want you to take any of this letter in a mean-spirited or demanding way. I want you instead to understand that this is how it is. This is where we are as a fan base. No more no less. So, without further ado, a few suggestions from a middle-aged Browns fan who was weaned on the Kardiac Kids.
1) Put away your Super Bowl ring. Don't want to see it, don't want to hear you talk about it. It means nothing to me. Nothing. In fact, I think I speak for everyone in Browns country when I say I'm sick of how many Super Bowl rings "the other guys" have. Mr. Holmgren, we have brought people in on every level of this organization with previous Super Bowl rings. From a team president in Carmen Policy to three different head coaches in Davis, Crennel, and Mangini. We have even sent a coach on his way to earn three Super Bowl rings in New England. But it's worse. You see, we saw our beloved team walk out of our lives nearly fifteen years ago, only to see them romance another city with a Super Bowl victory five years later. Even our owner, whom we believed in, acquired a ring from the whole sordid affair. In short, we're ready for a ring to be earned in this city, for this team, for this fan base.
2) I beg you to give Coach Mangini at least one more year to prove his worth. Despite what you may read in the papers and on the Internet, a great deal of Cleveland Browns fans can see the light at the end of the tunnel with Coach Mangini at the helm. For the first time since Coach Belichick was calling the shots, we have a disciplined football team that outworks its opponent and doesn't beat itself with mental mistakes. To that end, Year 1 has been a success regardless of the W-L record. Year 2 would continue that culture and bring with it more talent through your draft and free agent work. Coach Mangini has worked so hard to take on the job no one else wanted: to blow it up and start from scratch. He has removed the right guys from the roster, saved lots of money, and given you plenty to work with in the offseason in terms of draft picks and cap space. By doing this, he chose the long road that will lead to long-term success. He deserves to continue down that path.
3) We'll follow you into hell and back, Mr. Holmgren. Remember, we've been there a few times already. But after this trip, we don't want to go back. Ever. Bottom line, we just want to win. We want to win in Cleveland. We want to win in Pittsburgh. We want to win in January. We want to hug fellow Browns fans we've never met before. We want to cry when our team hoists that silver trophy someday, and we want non-Browns fans to wonder why we're tearing up. It's because this team and this city is in our blood, our history, our makeup. If you're not us, you wouldn't understand.
Thank you, Mr. Holmgren, for becoming part of the Cleveland Browns. We wish you the best and we are behind you all the way.
Respectfully,
NW Ohio Brownie
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Dear Mr. Holmgren,
On behalf of all Browns fans, I would like to welcome you to the organization. Now that you're here, I would like to present to you this checklist of things to do in order to bring our organization back from the depths of the NFL cellar.
1). Demote Brian Daboll to janitor.
- He's made a mess of our offense, I think it's time for him to learn how to clean things up.
2). Buy earplugs.
- You're not going to want to hear what the fans have to say if all of your draft picks don't turn out to be perennial Pro Bowlers.
3). Do not fire Eric Mangini.
- He may not be the best coach in all the land, but he's built somewhat of a foundation. I'm curious to see what he does with it next year.
4). Buy a lightsaber.
- Why not? You're getting a ton of money.
5). Keep the Brown pants.
- They're fly.
6). Draft Tony Pike.
- That's pretty self-explanatory.
7). Bring in Charlie Weis.
- He knows the Erhardt-Perkins offense like he knows the lineup at a Golden Corral buffet table.
8). Keep The Big Robowski.
- He looks like The Dude. And his defense has been pretty successful, by Cleveland standards.
I had more things to add, but I'm hungry. So, that's all for now. Good luck!
Yours truly,
A Fan.
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support for the brown pants, eh? might as well worship satan.
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"Remember.......................................when you played with the Beatles?????????????.....................................
That was awesome."
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Dear Mr. Holmgren,
On behalf of all Browns fans, I would like to welcome you to the organization. Now that you're here, I would like to present to you this checklist of things to do in order to bring our organization back from the depths of the NFL cellar.
1). Demote Brian Daboll to janitor.
- He's made a mess of our offense, I think it's time for him to learn how to clean things up.
2). Buy earplugs.
- You're not going to want to hear what the fans have to say if all of your draft picks don't turn out to be perennial Pro Bowlers.
3). Do not fire Eric Mangini.
- He may not be the best coach in all the land, but he's built somewhat of a foundation. I'm curious to see what he does with it next year.
4). Buy a lightsaber.
- Why not? You're getting a ton of money.
5). Keep the Brown pants.
- They're fly.
6). Draft Tony Pike.
- That's pretty self-explanatory.
7). Bring in Charlie Weis.
- He knows the Erhardt-Perkins offense like he knows the lineup at a Golden Corral buffet table.
8). Keep The Big Robowski.
- He looks like The Dude. And his defense has been pretty successful, by Cleveland standards.
I had more things to add, but I'm hungry. So, that's all for now. Good luck!
Yours truly,
A Fan.
4). Buy a lightsaber.
- Why not? You're getting a ton of money.
Haha funny shit.
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Hey Mike.... couple things
Draft 2 ILB's so we can finally stop the run, Draft a corner and safety so we can stop the pass(and run) , go get dez bryant so we can score Td's and Please, Please , Please find us a franchise QB. that is all... a nice new shiny(young) Rt with the last 3rd rounder would be nice tooooo!
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Just Win Motherf**ker
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maybe lay off the double whoppers with cheese?
maybe lay off the double whoppers with cheese?
your comment indeed tells us you have down syndrome. you musta been born with a dick in your brain, fu*ked in the head. you toothless inbred bi*ch
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How are Rob Ryan, Mangini, and Holgren going to fit into a car if they have to take a trip together? you'd have to rent a UHAUL..
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support for the brown pants, eh? might as well worship satan.
support for the brown pants, eh? might as well worship satan.
What's wrong with the brown pants? With the home jerseys, we look like walking turds. I get that. But with the away jerseys, they're not that bad. I have a thing against white jerseys and white pants, it just bothers me.
And I'm finding the connection between brown pants and Satan a little weak. Enlighten me?
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How are Rob Ryan, Mangini, and Holgren going to fit into a car if they have to take a trip together? you'd have to rent a UHAUL..
How are Rob Ryan, Mangini, and Holgren going to fit into a car if they have to take a trip together? you'd have to rent a UHAUL..
wow you dont even deny your down syndrome obtained through inbreeding. nice!
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How are Rob Ryan, Mangini, and Holgren going to fit into a car if they have to take a trip together? you'd have to rent a UHAUL..
How are Rob Ryan, Mangini, and Holgren going to fit into a car if they have to take a trip together? you'd have to rent a UHAUL..
The same way that you, your husband, and your fat ass mother fit into a car. Tons of butter.
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How are Rob Ryan, Mangini, and Holgren going to fit into a car if they have to take a trip together? you'd have to rent a UHAUL..
The same way that you, your husband, and your fat ass mother fit into a car. Tons of butter.
The same way that you, your husband, and your fat ass mother fit into a car. Tons of butter.
Oh snap..its on
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Continue to build on the Thomas and Mack picks and get a RT. Then we will have a line we can work with. We are close to having the unit to NFL good or better....just get it done this year. Once we do that, everything else on O is going to perform better and we will be able to maintain the unit with sound lower round picks for the next few years before having to invest a high pick again.
High round offensive picks don't work if you surround them with bums on the offensive line. Get that right and all of a sudden those 4th round backs look pretty good. Even crap QB's begin to look better.
Build some identity on defense, and no better way to do that then to build your backer corp. We have had a bunch of pansies playing linebacker for too long.
And for God's sake, play a attacking style D. Forget this contain and control D that seems so popular. Allow Ryan...I hope we keep him...to play D the way his Daddy did...defense with a offensive mind set. At first you might give up big plays, but as we get better players, we will be in a position to just smother teams.
That's what i want. I don't want to just win. I want to smother opponents.
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Wow, great thread LOL
Dear Mike,
This has been a terrible year for the Browns but the team seems to be executing better later in the season. The team is more disciplined than any browns team I can remember in recent history. Please give coach Mangini a chance to prove himself and keep an open mind to his staff's recommendations. I believe he can help the browns win a championship. You may personally favor a 4/3 defense but this defense has won multiple championships.
His staff knows the players well after a year to evaluate so use their opinions but be willing to have your own opinion also. I think they will know which weaknesses are a high priority.
Don't sacrifice the next five years to try and win next year. We want the holes filled but making the playoffs once is not what the fans here desire or deserve. Long term excellence (pats, steelers) is what most of us want with significant improvement shown next season.
Please try to fill as many holes as possible in free agency and draft bpa whenever possible.
Have fun, can't wait to see you and Mangini accepting the superbowl trophy
Brian
ps pay Josh
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