You know whats NOT funny?
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Big Ben deserved it more plus we are still in the playoff hunt whereas the Browns aren't.
Big Ben also has two Super Bowl rings. nuff said on that!
Big Ben deserved it more plus we are still in the playoff hunt whereas the Browns aren't.
Big Ben also has two Super Bowl rings. nuff said on that!
Not to mention a pending rape case! Nuff said on that
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Harrison has the third most rushing yard in a single game. Ben's performance has only been done twice before both by HOFers. Its unfornunate for Harrison that his legendary performance came on the week of an even better legendary performance.
I know AP has the single-game rushing record, and Harrison has third place. Isn't Jamal Lewis in second place? In an era of passing the 3 best single-game rushing performances have been done by current players, two of which play for the same team.
Sivlerback DPOY said:
Harrison has the third most rushing yard in a single game. Ben's performance has only been done twice before both by HOFers. Its unfornunate for Harrison that his legendary performance came on the week of an even better legendary performance.I know AP has the single-game rushing record, and Harrison has third place. Isn't Jamal Lewis in second place? In an era of passing the 3 best single-game rushing performances have been done by current players, two of which play for the same team.
Just a correction: BR's total of 503 yards is NOT only the third 500 yard game in history. Here are the players with 500 yard passing games:
Norm Van Brocklin 554
Warren Moon 527
Boomer Esiason 522
Dan Marino 521
Phil Simms 513
Drew Brees 510
Vince Ferragamo 509
Y.A. Tittle 505
Elvis Grbac 504
Ben Roethlisberger 503
And you are right about Lewis and Harrison, though Lewis is really no longer playing because he is on IR, and says he is retiring after this year.
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Big Ben deserved it more plus we are still in the playoff hunt whereas the Browns aren't.
Big Ben also has two Super Bowl rings. nuff said on that!
Big Ben deserved it more plus we are still in the playoff hunt whereas the Browns aren't.
Big Ben also has two Super Bowl rings. nuff said on that!
What is "offensive player of the week" going to get BR or Harrison?: Dick.
And it ain't gonna get them no Super Bowl.
As for being in the playoff hunt....mathematically correct.
But it was mathematically possible for me to win the 170 million dollare MegaMillions jackpot when I bought a ticket.
I didn't win, and neither will Steelers make the playoffs.
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
Harrison has the third most rushing yard in a single game. Ben's performance has only been done twice before both by HOFers. Its unfornunate for Harrison that his legendary performance came on the week of an even better legendary performance.I know AP has the single-game rushing record, and Harrison has third place. Isn't Jamal Lewis in second place? In an era of passing the 3 best single-game rushing performances have been done by current players, two of which play for the same team.
Just a correction: BR's total of 503 yards is NOT only the third 500 yard game in history. Here are the players with 500 yard passing games:
Norm Van Brocklin 554
Warren Moon 527
Boomer Esiason 522
Dan Marino 521
Phil Simms 513
Drew Brees 510
Vince Ferragamo 509
Y.A. Tittle 505
Elvis Grbac 504
Ben Roethlisberger 503
And you are right about Lewis and Harrison, though Lewis is really no longer playing because he is on IR, and says he is retiring after this year.
Just a correction: BR's total of 503 yards is NOT only the third 500 yard game in history. Here are the players with 500 yard passing games:
Norm Van Brocklin 554
Warren Moon 527
Boomer Esiason 522
Dan Marino 521
Phil Simms 513
Drew Brees 510
Vince Ferragamo 509
Y.A. Tittle 505
Elvis Grbac 504
Ben Roethlisberger 503
And you are right about Lewis and Harrison, though Lewis is really no longer playing because he is on IR, and says he is retiring after this year.
Yes, I know Ben is the 10th player in league history with 500+ passing yards (and 9th player to win a game with 500+ passing yards) But 7 of the players on that list either threw less than 3 tds or threw a pick. When you factor in having thrown 3+ tds and not throwing a pick that list narrows down to Ben and HOFers Warren Moon and Y.A. Tittle.
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@bigsteelerfanhere said:
we are still in the playoff hunt Mary. Please get a clue. you ruined nothing ok?Yeah, the Steelfags are in the playoff hunt only if you consider the fact that they have to win both of their remaining games and the Broncos and Ravens have to both lose both of their remaining games while the Jaguars, Dolphins, and Jets ALL have to lose one of their remaining games to really be "in the playoff hunt." The Squeelers are in nothing, they don't control their own destiny, not even the officials on their payroll can them out now. It would be a miracle if the Steelfags somehow backed their way in.. please DO hold your breath waiting for the Squeeler's next playoff game, probably sometime in 2029.
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Big Ben deserved it more plus we are still in the playoff hunt whereas the Browns aren't.
Big Ben also has two Super Bowl rings. nuff said on that!
What is "offensive player of the week" going to get BR or Harrison?: Dick.
And it ain't gonna get them no Super Bowl.
As for being in the playoff hunt....mathematically correct.
But it was mathematically possible for me to win the 170 million dollare MegaMillions jackpot when I bought a ticket.
I didn't win, and neither will Steelers make the playoffs.
What is "offensive player of the week" going to get BR or Harrison?: Dick.
Hey now...Steelers QB care about "getting dick"
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Zombo said:
Wow ... he almost reached Elvis Grbac status.Zombo
--While Jerome obliterated a long-standing JIM BROWN mark...
To bad Elvis didn't throw as many tds and/or threw interceptions.

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@bigsteelerfanhere said:
we are still in the playoff hunt Mary. Please get a clue. you ruined nothing ok?Yeah, the Steelfags are in the playoff hunt only if you consider the fact that they have to win both of their remaining games and the Broncos and Ravens have to both lose both of their remaining games while the Jaguars, Dolphins, and Jets ALL have to lose one of their remaining games to really be "in the playoff hunt." The Squeelers are in nothing, they don't control their own destiny, not even the officials on their payroll can them out now. It would be a miracle if the Steelfags somehow backed their way in.. please DO hold your breath waiting for the Squeeler's next playoff game, probably sometime in 2029.
Yeah, the Steelfags are in the playoff hunt only if you consider the fact that they have to win both of their remaining games and the Broncos and Ravens have to both lose both of their remaining games while the Jaguars, Dolphins, and Jets ALL have to lose one of their remaining games to really be "in the playoff hunt." The Squeelers are in nothing, they don't control their own destiny, not even the officials on their payroll can them out now. It would be a miracle if the Steelfags somehow backed their way in.. please DO hold your breath waiting for the Squeeler's next playoff game, probably sometime in 2029.
It actually a little easier than that. If we win out the Dolphins or Ravens won't keep us from the playoffs. The Broncos just need to lose one game becuase we own the tiebreaker. They play Philly. Jaguars need to lose a game and they play the Pats in NE. The Jets need to lose just one and they play both the Colts and the Bengals. By the end of the week the Steeler could very well be in the playoffs with control of their destiny.
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@bigsteelerfanhere said:
I think the Browns nation wants a sniff of ben's Super Bowl rings... O where O where is the Browns lombardi trophies? aren't good enough? can't measure up? got sand kicked in your face as a kid?1950, 1954, 1955, 1964, respectively. Granted, they weren't Lombardi trophies then, because Vince Lombardi was still alive. But still, ten years before you guys won your first. Judging by those dates, I believe we were the ones kicking the sand in the playground as kids.
As adults, on the other hand, we haven't had near as much success.
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@bigsteelerfanhere said:
I think the Browns nation wants a sniff of ben's Super Bowl rings... O where O where is the Browns lombardi trophies? aren't good enough? can't measure up? got sand kicked in your face as a kid?1950, 1954, 1955, 1964, respectively. Granted, they weren't Lombardi trophies then, because Vince Lombardi was still alive. But still, ten years before you guys won your first. Judging by those dates, I believe we were the ones kicking the sand in the playground as kids.
As adults, on the other hand, we haven't had near as much success.
1950, 1954, 1955, 1964, respectively. Granted, they weren't Lombardi trophies then, because Vince Lombardi was still alive. But still, ten years before you guys won your first. Judging by those dates, I believe we were the ones kicking the sand in the playground as kids.
As adults, on the other hand, we haven't had near as much success.
oh yes I forgot about the cheesy championship days of the browns that don't measure up in today's NFL.
you forgot the AAFC backyard football games..LOL a seven team league...
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hey bigsteelersfan: why don't you go play on a steeler's forum you flippin' fag! hines ward and roethlisberger are there wiaitng for you with your butt plug. what a douche.
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1950, 1954, 1955, 1964, respectively. Granted, they weren't Lombardi trophies then, because Vince Lombardi was still alive. But still, ten years before you guys won your first. Judging by those dates, I believe we were the ones kicking the sand in the playground as kids.
As adults, on the other hand, we haven't had near as much success.
oh yes I forgot about the cheesy championship days of the browns that don't measure up in today's NFL.
you forgot the AAFC backyard football games..LOL a seven team league...
oh yes I forgot about the cheesy championship days of the browns that don't measure up in today's NFL.
you forgot the AAFC backyard football games..LOL a seven team league...
I didn't count the AAFC Championships because they are just that- AAFC Championships. We're talking about NFL Championships. If the times were so "cheesy" when we won the titles, where were the Steelers? If they truly are God's greatest team, you'd think they would have been winning back then, too.
And, to tell you the truth, I'd take football in the 50's, 60's and 70's over football today any day of the week. Those were American football's glory days. You didn't have prima donna receivers running their mouths and showboating. You didn't have thug linebackers killing people or beating their stripper girlfriends. Men played football to play the game, they weren't getting paid millions of dollars. In the late 1950's, the average player was earning less than $6,000 per season. The Baltimore Colts were known for paying their players in free beer. It wasn't until 1970 that a league minimum was even established, and even then it was set at a mere $10,000.
But you can say what you want, your opinion matters very little in this board. And in the real world, for that matter. In 5 years, you'll just be a Saints fan anyway.
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Just a correction: BR's total of 503 yards is NOT only the third 500 yard game in history. Here are the players with 500 yard passing games:
Norm Van Brocklin 554
Warren Moon 527
Boomer Esiason 522
Dan Marino 521
Phil Simms 513
Drew Brees 510
Vince Ferragamo 509
Y.A. Tittle 505
Elvis Grbac 504
Ben Roethlisberger 503
And you are right about Lewis and Harrison, though Lewis is really no longer playing because he is on IR, and says he is retiring after this year.
Yes, I know Ben is the 10th player in league history with 500+ passing yards (and 9th player to win a game with 500+ passing yards) But 7 of the players on that list either threw less than 3 tds or threw a pick. When you factor in having thrown 3+ tds and not throwing a pick that list narrows down to Ben and HOFers Warren Moon and Y.A. Tittle.
Sivlerback DPOY said:
Yes, I know Ben is the 10th player in league history with 500+ passing yards (and 9th player to win a game with 500+ passing yards) But 7 of the players on that list either threw less than 3 tds or threw a pick. When you factor in having thrown 3+ tds and not throwing a pick that list narrows down to Ben and HOFers Warren Moon and Y.A. Tittle.OK, well, you could dance on the head of a pin with a statistic like that if you want.
You know like in baseball you could probably come up with a stat somewhere where you could say that "the only people in history to accomplish this feat are Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, and Coco Crisp" or some such foolishness.
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Zombo said:
Wow ... he almost reached Elvis Grbac status.Zombo
--While Jerome obliterated a long-standing JIM BROWN mark...
To bad Elvis didn't throw as many tds and/or threw interceptions.

Sivlerback DPOY said:
To bad Elvis didn't throw as many tds and/or threw interceptions.
Did they both win the game? That is really all that counts.
So, Ben gets 500+ yards in a game, and wins. Brady Quinn got like 90 yards in the Browns win vs. the Steelers....a game far more significant to the Steelers than him getting those 500 yards vs. Green Bay.
Ask anyone: it was far more important for the Steelers to beat the Browns than to beat the Packers. That division/conference loss to the Browns was far more devastating than a loss to the Packers would have been.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to rub this in. I mean merely to remind you of the fact.
(By the way, did I tell you that the Steelers loss to the Browns was far more devastating to their playoff chances than a loss to the Packers would have been? Oh, I did remind you, OK)
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@bigsteelerfanhere said:
I think the Browns nation wants a sniff of ben's Super Bowl rings... O where O where is the Browns lombardi trophies? aren't good enough? can't measure up? got sand kicked in your face as a kid?We got 13 titles. Call us when you catch up...or have your great great grandchildren call our great great grandchildren.
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1950, 1954, 1955, 1964, respectively. Granted, they weren't Lombardi trophies then, because Vince Lombardi was still alive. But still, ten years before you guys won your first. Judging by those dates, I believe we were the ones kicking the sand in the playground as kids.
As adults, on the other hand, we haven't had near as much success.
oh yes I forgot about the cheesy championship days of the browns that don't measure up in today's NFL.
you forgot the AAFC backyard football games..LOL a seven team league...
oh yes I forgot about the cheesy championship days of the browns that don't measure up in today's NFL.
you forgot the AAFC backyard football games..LOL a seven team league...
It was an 8 team league....which was the same size essentially as the NFL.
If they were so cheesy, why couldn't the Steelers win one? I mean, they were in existance for 15 years before the Browns were created. They should have gotten a few if it were so easy. Even our Cleveland Rams got a title when the Pittsburgh area representative couldn't.
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...e_harris_2.html
BEREA, Ohio -- Jerome Harrison had the third-best rushing performance in NFL history Sunday in Kansas City and didn't win the AFC offensive player of the week award.
The awared went to Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who passed for 503 yards and three touchdowns in a last-second win over Green Bay.
Harrison broke Jim Brown's franchise rushing record for a game with 286 yards on 34 attempts. He scored three touchdowns in the second half of the Browns' 41-34 win in Kansas City.
"I guess he needed to get to 300 to get that (award)," joked coach Eric Mangini.
Harrison was unfazed by the snub.
"He deserves it," he said of Roethlisberger. "He's a household name, won Super Bowls. Made a hell of a play to win the game. I'm not mad about it. I don't play for accolades anyway. I just play to win and have fun."
Yeah, but.
"I won't miss not one second of sleep over it," Harrison maintained.
Josh Cribbs -- the other Browns' record-setter in the Kansas City game -- did win the honor for AFC special teams player of the week.
Cribbs had kickoff returns for touchdowns of 100 and 103 yards.
It's the third time Cribbs has won the award in his career and the second this season.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...e_harris_2.html
BEREA, Ohio -- Jerome Harrison had the third-best rushing performance in NFL history Sunday in Kansas City and didn't win the AFC offensive player of the week award.
Harrison knows that the entire NFL knows he deserves that award. He's taking the high road which is commendable.
He may wind up being trade bait to help the team grow stronger too - yes I know no one wants to see him go but he can bring a wealth of picks and players in return. It's a win win for the Browns however... if he stays great, if he gets traded, they'll get a good return on him too.
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
Yes, I know Ben is the 10th player in league history with 500+ passing yards (and 9th player to win a game with 500+ passing yards) But 7 of the players on that list either threw less than 3 tds or threw a pick. When you factor in having thrown 3+ tds and not throwing a pick that list narrows down to Ben and HOFers Warren Moon and Y.A. Tittle.OK, well, you could dance on the head of a pin with a statistic like that if you want.
You know like in baseball you could probably come up with a stat somewhere where you could say that "the only people in history to accomplish this feat are Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, and Coco Crisp" or some such foolishness.
OK, well, you could dance on the head of a pin with a statistic like that if you want.
You know like in baseball you could probably come up with a stat somewhere where you could say that "the only people in history to accomplish this feat are Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, and Coco Crisp" or some such foolishness.
Yes,it does take a bit of munipulation to get a list like that, but its just another way to one of the best single game passing performances in the history of the league in perspective. You bring up a good point in your other response. Ben is a great qb becuase of his ability to win a game of any magnitude, Not becuase of stats. Ben can nearly single-handedly win games for the Steelers, but sometimes just not making a big mistake can be good enough to win a few games. Any performance by a qb is acceptable as long as it doesn't set back the team from a win.
Statistically, the Browns loss certianly hurt our chances more than any loss this season. (We have had enough time to overcome being swepted by the Bengals and can still make up for the loss to the Ravens.) We still have a shot at a wildcard spot, and at this point in time I am more than happy with the shot we still somehow have.
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