Mike Holmgren's 5 pm conference call
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He said based off of his conversations with randy that randy really wants the browns to do well and that he doesn't want to let him down. He said blowing the team up isn't necessary, that there is talent here. He also said randy is one of the reasons he took the job.
He also said randy is one of the reasons he took the job.
50 million dollars is another reason he took the job.
LOL some BQ Homo asks about Quinn. Holmgren deflects, says he can't say what he thinks because he hasn't seen him in the NFL.
Translation: "He sucks balls"
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Holmgren said he does not believe in the one man rule, he has the final say but it should be a collective decision as far as things like who makes the 53 man roster and things like that. He does not seem to believe in the dictatorship mentality. He says that has learned from his mistakes with seattle.
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He will meet with mangini monday and then he will meet with the media on tuesday for his official presser. He really hasn't seen any of bq's games in the nfl and that mangini has sent him game film for both qbs so that he can evaluate them properly.
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As said in the conference call, Holmgren was very impressed with Anderson in 2007 when he played against him with Seattle. Enter the new QB controversy.
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He will meet with mangini monday and then he will meet with the media on tuesday for his official presser. He really hasn't seen any of bq's games in the nfl and that mangini has sent him game film for both qbs so that he can evaluate them properly.
He will meet with mangini monday and then he will meet with the media on tuesday for his official presser. He really hasn't seen any of bq's games in the nfl and that mangini has sent him game film for both qbs so that he can evaluate them properly.
I sure hope DA's fluke 2007 season doesn't sway his judgment.
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As said in the conference call, Holmgren was very impressed with Anderson in 2007 when he played against him with Seattle. Enter the new QB controversy.
Metcalf_FTW said:
As said in the conference call, Holmgren was very impressed with Anderson in 2007 when he played against him with Seattle. Enter the new QB controversy.You are making something out of nothing. He will not judge da on one game. Holmgren said that mangini has sent him film on both qbs so he can look at the entire body of work and not just one game.
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He will meet with mangini monday and then he will meet with the media on tuesday for his official presser. He really hasn't seen any of bq's games in the nfl and that mangini has sent him game film for both qbs so that he can evaluate them properly.
I sure hope DA's fluke 2007 season doesn't sway his judgment.
I sure hope DA's fluke 2007 season doesn't sway his judgment.
He actually watched Quinn's tapes up until the Garo Yepremian imitation.
That's when he called Mangini and told him to put BQ on IR.
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He will meet with mangini monday and then he will meet with the media on tuesday for his official presser. He really hasn't seen any of bq's games in the nfl and that mangini has sent him game film for both qbs so that he can evaluate them properly.
I sure hope DA's fluke 2007 season doesn't sway his judgment.
I sure hope DA's fluke 2007 season doesn't sway his judgment.
If Holmgren picks up DA's 7 or 9 million option, whatever it is, he should be one and done as czar. If DA stays he needs to understand his market value and get paid like the back up he would be on any other team.
Please, please no more QB controversy!!!
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He will meet with mangini monday and then he will meet with the media on tuesday for his official presser. He really hasn't seen any of bq's games in the nfl and that mangini has sent him game film for both qbs so that he can evaluate them properly.
I sure hope DA's fluke 2007 season doesn't sway his judgment.
I sure hope DA's fluke 2007 season doesn't sway his judgment.
I'm sure holmgren will see the complete da melt down of the 2nd half that 2007 season as well and his 08 and 09 games. He will also have all of the game film on bq. Holmgren is a qb maker, he is the right man to get our qb situation together.
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did anyone else notice that when referring to the head coaching position, he always said "the coach" and never mentioned eric mangini by name? is this foreshadowing at all? it should be interesting to see how this plays out.
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It sounds like Mangini will have to agree to give up full control of the 53 man roster. I think most GMs will work with the coach to almost always be in agreement because who understands what each player is capable of more than the coaches who see them practice every day.
I can see control of the roster occasionally being a problem when looking at short term value versus long term value. Keeping an older vet who doesn't have longer term potential might help you for a little while but prevents you from keeping a player who can become very good. Someone like Benard LB comes to mind. We could have brought in a bunch of over the hill vets and never would have known that Benard could become a very good player.
Another possible issue is if Holmgren wants Dabol replaced. Dabol has said that he would love to sit down and talk offense with Holmgren so maybe he can learn from Mike.
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The Walrus said, which I find kick ass "rest be assured, I have the final say on everything". Or something like that.
Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12 -
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He will meet with mangini monday and then he will meet with the media on tuesday for his official presser. He really hasn't seen any of bq's games in the nfl and that mangini has sent him game film for both qbs so that he can evaluate them properly.
I sure hope DA's fluke 2007 season doesn't sway his judgment.
I sure hope DA's fluke 2007 season doesn't sway his judgment.
Sorry man...not to sound like a Anderson guy.....you don't fluke in to that.
You fluke in to a decent season....not a great season.
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The Walrus said, which I find kick ass "rest be assured, I have the final say on everything". Or something like that.
The Walrus said, which I find kick ass "rest be assured, I am have the final say on everything". Or something like that.
He is going to....and as he said it won't be a dictatorship....as a former coach he knows a coach wants certain guys on the squad who bring something that doesn't always show up on film.
Mangini or whoever ends up coaching isn't going to be void of voice.
This isn't like the manager at the local Burger King telling the grill man how many burgers to start cooking.
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I sure hope DA's fluke 2007 season doesn't sway his judgment.
Sorry man...not to sound like a Anderson guy.....you don't fluke in to that.
You fluke in to a decent season....not a great season.
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I am not saying he was the only one. I said what I said....you don't fluke in to that...and it was better than a good season.
Just say it....it was a great season.
In baseball, if you hit 50 dingers, that isn't a fluke. You may never do it again, but you have the ability, and in sports, that goes a long way....and that's what this boils down to....projectability.
Neither does it time after time, so you have to guess who is going to do best.
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The Walrus said, which I find kick ass "rest be assured, I am have the final say on everything". Or something like that.
He is going to....and as he said it won't be a dictatorship....as a former coach he knows a coach wants certain guys on the squad who bring something that doesn't always show up on film.
Mangini or whoever ends up coaching isn't going to be void of voice.
This isn't like the manager at the local Burger King telling the grill man how many burgers to start cooking.
He is going to....and as he said it won't be a dictatorship....as a former coach he knows a coach wants certain guys on the squad who bring something that doesn't always show up on film.
Mangini or whoever ends up coaching isn't going to be void of voice.
This isn't like the manager at the local Burger King telling the grill man how many burgers to start cooking.
He said its his job to convince the coach of his ideas. He also said he will basically be a tie breaker in the war room.
"Chances are, if you think Jay Leno is funny, I don't care for you as a person" - Peter Griffin -
I am not saying he was the only one. I said what I said....you don't fluke in to that...and it was better than a good season.
Just say it....it was a great season.
In baseball, if you hit 50 dingers, that isn't a fluke. You may never do it again, but you have the ability, and in sports, that goes a long way....and that's what this boils down to....projectability.
Neither does it time after time, so you have to guess who is going to do best.
I am not saying he was the only one. I said what I said....you don't fluke in to that...and it was better than a good season.
Just say it....it was a great season.
In baseball, if you hit 50 dingers, that isn't a fluke. You may never do it again, but you have the ability, and in sports, that goes a long way....and that's what this boils down to....projectability.
Neither does it time after time, so you have to guess who is going to do best.
Everybody has the ability, or else they wouldn't be in the NFL. Do you think the NFL is filled with average joes? All QB's might not have the same skill set, but more or less the players are drafted by people who have seen what they can do, and believe the system in place fits with the QB. More than anything, being a successful QB in the NFL comes down to two things. Intelligence and confidence. BQ has the intelligence, and DA has the confidence. They both have the physical skills to put together massive seasons, a la DA's 2007 season. It was a great season, I won't deny him that. It was fan-motherxxxxing-tastic, and I loved every minute of it. But he hasn't been able to re-create it, and BQ hasn't been able to even get a start on one. It's a battle between a "has-been" and a "never-was" right now. I'm not sure which one I'd rather have.
The irony of the situation is that if we could combine BQ and DA, we'd easily have a perennial Pro Bowler. They are two complete opposites; each one possesses a skill that the other lacks.
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did anyone else notice that when referring to the head coaching position, he always said "the coach" and never mentioned eric mangini by name? is this foreshadowing at all? it should be interesting to see how this plays out.
did anyone else notice that when referring to the head coaching position, he always said "the coach" and never mentioned eric mangini by name? is this foreshadowing at all? it should be interesting to see how this plays out.
The fact that Lerner once again stayed away from the game, keeping his distance from Mangini, might also indicate that Holmgren has given his "boss" an indication of which way he's leaning.
Just an observation.
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