Holmgren dodges Quinn question, again
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I think both DA and BQ are going to be traded neither guy works well in mangini's system ,they are both spread formation passers...
I think both DA and BQ are going to be traded neither guy works well in mangini's system ,they are both spread formation passers...
A couple of weeks back Holmgren was quoted as saying he didn't like the idea of Qbs getting the quick pull, everyone thought it was about Mangini. I'm thinking he saw a QB that had impressed him at some point play poorly with a concussion then come back to win 3 of 5 only to be yanked and the Browns fell apart.... You never know. I expect one of them will remain with the team, an experienced vet will be brought in to compete for the starting spot and a developmental kid will be drafted on day two unless the GM agrees Ratliff is the developmental guy.
Is there any kind of QB that would "work well" in Mangini's system? The system needs some help a single QB may not be able to fix before it's passing well. I'm betting the new GM and Prez will be keeping a close eye on Daboll and Mangini's "system, with the idea of having some input if they don't like what they see.
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When asked what he thought after watching the film on Quinn, Holmgren answered by talking about his injury instead of any type of analysis. Although did mention that he does know QBs. I still strongly believe his "tough decision" is trading Quinn. What do you all think of his reluctance to comment on Quinn? Especially when he has no problem at least complimenting Cribbs, Harrison, and fan favorite, DA.
When asked what he thought after watching the film on Quinn, Holmgren answered by talking about his injury instead of any type of analysis. Although did mention that he does know QBs. I still strongly believe his "tough decision" is trading Quinn. What do you all think of his reluctance to comment on Quinn? Especially when he has no problem at least complimenting Cribbs, Harrison, and fan favorite, DA.
I always thought that Quinn was the fan favorite, what have I been missing?
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When asked what he thought after watching the film on Quinn, Holmgren answered by talking about his injury instead of any type of analysis. Although did mention that he does know QBs. I still strongly believe his "tough decision" is trading Quinn. What do you all think of his reluctance to comment on Quinn? Especially when he has no problem at least complimenting Cribbs, Harrison, and fan favorite, DA.
When asked what he thought after watching the film on Quinn, Holmgren answered by talking about his injury instead of any type of analysis. Although did mention that he does know QBs. I still strongly believe his "tough decision" is trading Quinn. What do you all think of his reluctance to comment on Quinn? Especially when he has no problem at least complimenting Cribbs, Harrison, and fan favorite, DA.
I assume you're being sarcastic about DA. Holmgren has at least until the draft to evaluate Quinn, and like keeping EM, he's not about to make snap decisions.
Guaranteed: one or the other qb will be gone- if you think it's Quinn, mucho bueno. IMHO it's DA that's gonna get the heave-ho, and it's gone far beyond the point of keeping on beating a very dead horse.
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How would you know they sucked then?
How many times have you ever heard a coach say something like " we just don't stand much of a chance when we have to play this guy"??
You usually can tell what is felt by what isn't said, but as others noted, it may simply be a lack of information at this point to make any real comments.
I am just not sure MH is a guy who lacks information.
QB is a fairly key position. With all that happened with this team concerning the QB position, I find if hard to believe has hasn't spent at least a few hours watching some tape to at least begin to get a idea of what he faces at that critical position.
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When asked what he thought after watching the film on Quinn, Holmgren answered by talking about his injury instead of any type of analysis. Although did mention that he does know QBs. I still strongly believe his "tough decision" is trading Quinn. What do you all think of his reluctance to comment on Quinn? Especially when he has no problem at least complimenting Cribbs, Harrison, and fan favorite, DA.
When asked what he thought after watching the film on Quinn, Holmgren answered by talking about his injury instead of any type of analysis. Although did mention that he does know QBs. I still strongly believe his "tough decision" is trading Quinn. What do you all think of his reluctance to comment on Quinn? Especially when he has no problem at least complimenting Cribbs, Harrison, and fan favorite, DA.
Holmgren and the new GM both stressed that passing is the way to win in the NFL. With that in mind I find it hard to believe that Quinn will be the starter. I have a feeling we will either obtain a QB thru free agency, a trade, or through the draft. Both Quinn and Anderson have shown they are not in our future.
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How would you know they sucked then?
How many times have you ever heard a coach say something like " we just don't stand much of a chance when we have to play this guy"??
You usually can tell what is felt by what isn't said, but as others noted, it may simply be a lack of information at this point to make any real comments.
I am just not sure MH is a guy who lacks information.
QB is a fairly key position. With all that happened with this team concerning the QB position, I find if hard to believe has hasn't spent at least a few hours watching some tape to at least begin to get a idea of what he faces at that critical position.
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When asked what he thought after watching the film on Quinn, Holmgren answered by talking about his injury instead of any type of analysis. Although did mention that he does know QBs. I still strongly believe his "tough decision" is trading Quinn. What do you all think of his reluctance to comment on Quinn? Especially when he has no problem at least complimenting Cribbs, Harrison, and fan favorite, DA.
I assume you're being sarcastic about DA. Holmgren has at least until the draft to evaluate Quinn, and like keeping EM, he's not about to make snap decisions.
Guaranteed: one or the other qb will be gone- if you think it's Quinn, mucho bueno. IMHO it's DA that's gonna get the heave-ho, and it's gone far beyond the point of keeping on beating a very dead horse.
I assume you're being sarcastic about DA. Holmgren has at least until the draft to evaluate Quinn, and like keeping EM, he's not about to make snap decisions.
Guaranteed: one or the other qb will be gone- if you think it's Quinn, mucho bueno. IMHO it's DA that's gonna get the heave-ho, and it's gone far beyond the point of keeping on beating a very dead horse.
I was being sarcastic about DA. There should be punctuation for sarcasm, maybe reverse quotations?
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How would you know they sucked then?
How many times have you ever heard a coach say something like " we just don't stand much of a chance when we have to play this guy"??
You usually can tell what is felt by what isn't said, but as others noted, it may simply be a lack of information at this point to make any real comments.
I am just not sure MH is a guy who lacks information.
QB is a fairly key position. With all that happened with this team concerning the QB position, I find if hard to believe has hasn't spent at least a few hours watching some tape to at least begin to get a idea of what he faces at that critical position.
How many times have you ever heard a coach say something like " we just don't stand much of a chance when we have to play this guy"??
You usually can tell what is felt by what isn't said, but as others noted, it may simply be a lack of information at this point to make any real comments.
I am just not sure MH is a guy who lacks information.
QB is a fairly key position. With all that happened with this team concerning the QB position, I find if hard to believe has hasn't spent at least a few hours watching some tape to at least begin to get a idea of what he faces at that critical position.
I agree with you but I just shed a tear for Holmgren. Can you imagine having to watch a few hours of film on these guys? And its your job to fix it?
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I assume you're being sarcastic about DA. Holmgren has at least until the draft to evaluate Quinn, and like keeping EM, he's not about to make snap decisions.
Guaranteed: one or the other qb will be gone- if you think it's Quinn, mucho bueno. IMHO it's DA that's gonna get the heave-ho, and it's gone far beyond the point of keeping on beating a very dead horse.
I was being sarcastic about DA. There should be punctuation for sarcasm, maybe reverse quotations?
I was being sarcastic about DA. There should be punctuation for sarcasm, maybe reverse quotations?
~How about these guys?~
Good idea, actually.
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I think he hates Quinn.
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When asked what he thought after watching the film on Quinn, Holmgren answered by talking about his injury instead of any type of analysis. Although did mention that he does know QBs. I still strongly believe his "tough decision" is trading Quinn. What do you all think of his reluctance to comment on Quinn? Especially when he has no problem at least complimenting Cribbs, Harrison, and fan favorite, DA.
I assume you're being sarcastic about DA. Holmgren has at least until the draft to evaluate Quinn, and like keeping EM, he's not about to make snap decisions.
Guaranteed: one or the other qb will be gone- if you think it's Quinn, mucho bueno. IMHO it's DA that's gonna get the heave-ho, and it's gone far beyond the point of keeping on beating a very dead horse.
I assume you're being sarcastic about DA. Holmgren has at least until the draft to evaluate Quinn, and like keeping EM, he's not about to make snap decisions.
Guaranteed: one or the other qb will be gone- if you think it's Quinn, mucho bueno. IMHO it's DA that's gonna get the heave-ho, and it's gone far beyond the point of keeping on beating a very dead horse.
You're probably right, Larry. However, if DA leaves this doesn't mean that BQ lines up behind Center on opening day 2010.
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I notice he didn't dodge the question about Derek Anderson. Oh wait, he never mentioned Derek Anderson.
I notice he didn't dodge the question about Derek Anderson. Oh wait, he never mentioned Derek Anderson.
Actually, in his first presser he was asked about the QBs and he mentioned that he remembers DA killing his hawks in 07.
"Chances are, if you think Jay Leno is funny, I don't care for you as a person" - Peter Griffin -
Actually, in his first presser he was asked about the QBs and he mentioned that he remembers DA killing his hawks in 07.
LMAO - he had to go back to that 2007 year ya'll still live in. LOL.
I think it is very obvious nobody is asking about DA any longer. But you keep the faith pojami.
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When asked what he thought after watching the film on Quinn, Holmgren answered by talking about his injury instead of any type of analysis. Although did mention that he does know QBs. I still strongly believe his "tough decision" is trading Quinn. What do you all think of his reluctance to comment on Quinn? Especially when he has no problem at least complimenting Cribbs, Harrison, and fan favorite, DA.
I always thought that Quinn was the fan favorite, what have I been missing?
I always thought that Quinn was the fan favorite, what have I been missing?
You're not missing anything.
i've been following the Browns since Ernie Green gave up his body to block for Jim Brown, and this QB situation is the weirdest thing i can remember. Never can i recall a situation where the coaches and the teammates favor a certain player that the fans despise, while the competing player is a fan favorite that the coaches and team seem indifferent on. It is bizarre.
If Quinn was that good, it would be a no-brainer to annoint him. If DA was that bad, it would be a no-brainer to cut him. That predicament has been around for a couple seasons now.
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I always thought that Quinn was the fan favorite, what have I been missing?
You're not missing anything.
i've been following the Browns since Ernie Green gave up his body to block for Jim Brown, and this QB situation is the weirdest thing i can remember. Never can i recall a situation where the coaches and the teammates favor a certain player that the fans despise, while the competing player is a fan favorite that the coaches and team seem indifferent on. It is bizarre.
If Quinn was that good, it would be a no-brainer to annoint him. If DA was that bad, it would be a no-brainer to cut him. That predicament has been around for a couple seasons now.
You're not missing anything.
i've been following the Browns since Ernie Green gave up his body to block for Jim Brown, and this QB situation is the weirdest thing i can remember. Never can i recall a situation where the coaches and the teammates favor a certain player that the fans despise, while the competing player is a fan favorite that the coaches and team seem indifferent on. It is bizarre.
If Quinn was that good, it would be a no-brainer to annoint him. If DA was that bad, it would be a no-brainer to cut him. That predicament has been around for a couple seasons now.
Since when is it predetermined that DA is favored by teammates and coaches?
Seems to me that has been propagated by a few members on this board and is now being construed as fact.
Can someone supply evidence of this supposed fact?
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You're not missing anything.
i've been following the Browns since Ernie Green gave up his body to block for Jim Brown, and this QB situation is the weirdest thing i can remember. Never can i recall a situation where the coaches and the teammates favor a certain player that the fans despise, while the competing player is a fan favorite that the coaches and team seem indifferent on. It is bizarre.
If Quinn was that good, it would be a no-brainer to annoint him. If DA was that bad, it would be a no-brainer to cut him. That predicament has been around for a couple seasons now.
Since when is it predetermined that DA is favored by teammates and coaches?
Seems to me that has been propagated by a few members on this board and is now being construed as fact.
Can someone supply evidence of this supposed fact?
Since when is it predetermined that DA is favored by teammates and coaches?
Seems to me that has been propagated by a few members on this board and is now being construed as fact.
Can someone supply evidence of this supposed fact?
The coach part is obvious. If they favored Quinn, they would have annointed him (or at least stuck with him at the beginning of the season). The teammate part is less scientific and based on antecdotal evidence.
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I always thought that Quinn was the fan favorite, what have I been missing?
You're not missing anything.
i've been following the Browns since Ernie Green gave up his body to block for Jim Brown, and this QB situation is the weirdest thing i can remember. Never can i recall a situation where the coaches and the teammates favor a certain player that the fans despise, while the competing player is a fan favorite that the coaches and team seem indifferent on. It is bizarre.
If Quinn was that good, it would be a no-brainer to annoint him. If DA was that bad, it would be a no-brainer to cut him. That predicament has been around for a couple seasons now.
You're not missing anything.
i've been following the Browns since Ernie Green gave up his body to block for Jim Brown, and this QB situation is the weirdest thing i can remember. Never can i recall a situation where the coaches and the teammates favor a certain player that the fans despise, while the competing player is a fan favorite that the coaches and team seem indifferent on. It is bizarre.
If Quinn was that good, it would be a no-brainer to annoint him. If DA was that bad, it would be a no-brainer to cut him. That predicament has been around for a couple seasons now.
You said it all right there. You'll be challenged, don't take the bait. You'll be talking to a wall and eventually, someone will resort to name calling.
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