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  • If we do not bring in a Mike Vick I wouldn't mind taking a chance on Super Sam Bradford if he checks out alright with the medical staff

  • Again...I have to ask...what in the name of all things holy have you people seen in Vick that makes you think he's a good NFL QB? The guy wasn't very good before he spent all that time as a guest of the state, what makes you think that his time in the pokey made him a better QB? Anderson and Quinn are both better at QB than he is.

    He's Josh Cribbs with more speed and a better arm and less strength.

  • @cambridgeho said:

    Very good info man.

    QB's win Championships, we got two stiffs. Time to get the real deal. Now is not too early to draft a QB with the one pick. I would take Bradford

    @rich4eagle said:

    QB's win Championships, we got two stiffs. Time to get the real deal. Now is not too early to draft a QB with the one pick. I would take Bradford

    RE: championships. Sure do- guys like Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer. BTW, I agree Anderson is a stiff.

    Baltimore beat the mighty Patsies Tom Brady with Flacco throwing all of 10 passes (4 completions) for 34 yards.

  • A Great Defense Wins Championships.

  • If I could get Tebow at the top of the 2nd, I would. If I could trade down to around 17 I would take him.

    On a more realistic note, I would bring Vick to Cleveland to be the bridge between the here and now and the future qb, whoever that might be.

    That C Mich qb has some possibilities as a late 2nd, early 3rd round pick. We have some extra picks, so maybe grab him a round early if you think he has what it takes and let him sit behind Vick for a year or two.

    We could win games with Vick, and he wouldn't be all that expensive to get...and he would be realistic to get....Philly isn't trading Kolb as an example.

  • If I could get Tebow at the top of the 2nd, I would. If I could trade down to around 17 I would take him.

    On a more realistic note, I would bring Vick to Cleveland to be the bridge between the here and now and the future qb, whoever that might be.

    That C Mich qb has some possibilities as a late 2nd, early 3rd round pick. We have some extra picks, so maybe grab him a round early if you think he has what it takes and let him sit behind Vick for a year or two.

    We could win games with Vick, and he wouldn't be all that expensive to get...and he would be realistic to get....Philly isn't trading Kolb as an example.

    @ballpeen said:

    If I could get Tebow at the top of the 2nd, I would. If I could trade down to around 17 I would take him.

    On a more realistic note, I would bring Vick to Cleveland to be the bridge between the here and now and the future qb, whoever that might be.

    That C Mich qb has some possibilities as a late 2nd, early 3rd round pick. We have some extra picks, so maybe grab him a round early if you think he has what it takes and let him sit behind Vick for a year or two.

    We could win games with Vick, and he wouldn't be all that expensive to get...and he would be realistic to get....Philly isn't trading Kolb as an example.

    I'm a little surprised you'd want that cancer here Peen.

    Too much good press lately?

    😉😉

    We've heard too much about his bad attitude even before the animal torture side of his personality came out.

    What, are we the Raiders now?

    WSS

  • If I could get Tebow at the top of the 2nd, I would. If I could trade down to around 17 I would take him.

    On a more realistic note, I would bring Vick to Cleveland to be the bridge between the here and now and the future qb, whoever that might be.

    That C Mich qb has some possibilities as a late 2nd, early 3rd round pick. We have some extra picks, so maybe grab him a round early if you think he has what it takes and let him sit behind Vick for a year or two.

    We could win games with Vick, and he wouldn't be all that expensive to get...and he would be realistic to get....Philly isn't trading Kolb as an example.

    @ballpeen said:

    If I could get Tebow at the top of the 2nd, I would. If I could trade down to around 17 I would take him.

    On a more realistic note, I would bring Vick to Cleveland to be the bridge between the here and now and the future qb, whoever that might be.

    That C Mich qb has some possibilities as a late 2nd, early 3rd round pick. We have some extra picks, so maybe grab him a round early if you think he has what it takes and let him sit behind Vick for a year or two.

    We could win games with Vick, and he wouldn't be all that expensive to get...and he would be realistic to get....Philly isn't trading Kolb as an example.

    Tebow? Not second 'Peen. The guy has won games, but as was pointed out in the Sugar Bowl, his mechanics are going to have to be completely re-done. Holding the ball that low, he'll get it knocked out of his hand every time a DL gets within 6 feet of him.

    Vick won't show up in Cleveland even if we could get him for free. Second chance sure, but the baggage is too great for a Mangini team. If we go after any vet qb it will be Hasselbeck IMO.

    Yeah, I see us picking up LeFevre or Pike with our extra third round pick.

  • Again...I have to ask...what in the name of all things holy have you people seen in Vick that makes you think he's a good NFL QB? The guy wasn't very good before he spent all that time as a guest of the state, what makes you think that his time in the pokey made him a better QB? Anderson and Quinn are both better at QB than he is.

    He's Josh Cribbs with more speed and a better arm and less strength.

    @mark-o said:

    Again...I have to ask...what in the name of all things holy have you people seen in Vick that makes you think he's a good NFL QB? The guy wasn't very good before he spent all that time as a guest of the state, what makes you think that his time in the pokey made him a better QB? Anderson and Quinn are both better at QB than he is.

    He's Josh Cribbs with more speed and a better arm and less strength.

    Mark, he's led a team to the NFC Champioinship early on with a stiff like Mora Jr as his Head Coach and Kevin FREAKIN Shaffer as his blind side Left Tackle. Let's just say after watching Shaffer play Left Tackle HERE I get 2 things: 1) the need for track spikes on Sunday and 2) making an All pro out of the TE in the passing game.

    It's not ANY of us wanting Vick in the game in Philly - it's Andy Reid. It's hard to question his knowledge of what's acceptable at QB based on what he's done in this league IMO. Again, people thought just as LITTLE of Steve Young in the days before he had Jerry Rice, John Taylor Brent Jones, TO and company out west. If that is a BAD example - think of Randall Cunningham coming out of retirement to go to Minnesota for a best ever season:

    Year Age Tm Pos G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Rate

    1998*+ 35 MIN QB 15 14 13-1-0 259 425 60.9 3704 34 8.0 10 106.0

    Most of his seasons in Philly on a good team never had him getting passer ratings above the 70s. It's possible that the RIGHT Coach, right system blends well with a WINNER. Vick won at every level Mark and somewhere in all this we gotta make that a trend.

    I think people are UNCOMFORTABLE with Vick because he's fast and can move the chains on foot. I'm STILL hearing Vince Young can't win in this league because he's not the prototypical passer. He won 8 of his last 10 starts, only losing to Manning's Colts and the Chargers (2 homefield playoff teams). Speaking of which, the STEVE YOUNG highlight I've seen most is the 60 yard TD run vrs the Vikings in the playoffs more than any of his countless good passes.

    - Tom F.

  • This is Peens' new schtick, bring in the idiot Mike Vick who is a suckass QB on top of being a suckass person.

    Great work Peens, I can't imagine being at a tailgate together toasting to Michael effing Vick. Come on, smarten up and quit trying to stir bullshit up.

    I'm shocked you want Tebow BTW, I would have never guessed. What is it about these tight butted lefty runners you like so much? Never mind..........

  • This is Peens' new schtick, bring in the idiot Mike Vick who is a suckass QB on top of being a suckass person.

    Great work Peens, I can't imagine being at a tailgate together toasting to Michael effing Vick. Come on, smarten up and quit trying to stir bullshit up.

    I'm shocked you want Tebow BTW, I would have never guessed. What is it about these tight butted lefty runners you like so much? Never mind..........

    @riffer-x said:

    This is Peens' new schtick, bring in the idiot Mike Vick who is a suckass QB on top of being a suckass person.

    Great work Peens, I can't imagine being at a tailgate together toasting to Michael effing Vick. Come on, smarten up and quit trying to stir bullshit up.

    I'm shocked you want Tebow BTW, I would have never guessed. What is it about these tight butted lefty runners you like so much? Never mind..........

    It doesn't matter if anyone wants Vick because Andy Reid ain't letting him go at this point in time. That said, WE need Michael Vick to be good in order for us to have a shot at prying loose Kevin Kolb from Philly. I don't care how absurd that sounds.

    Your buddy Flugel seems to think that Tebow is going to be better at putting people in the seats in Jacksonville than WINNING did in earlier parts of 2009. I don't know if anyone else saw all the empty seats there when they were putting together wins; BUT don't underestimate the value of putting something in the product the customers/fans WANT to buy. Jax doesn't have this right now. I'll bet there's a lot of teabags for Tebow though as there prolly should be in that area of the country. I'm not saying I know what Tebow will do at the next level - I'm just saying they need to start putting fannies in the seats there a hop and a skip from Gainesville or Los Angeles just might have their next franchise on the horizon. Not sure WHY LA is the place the NFL is Jonesing for because they lost 2 teams from the SAME lack of interest going on in Jacksonville.

    It would be kind of ironic to see Tebow showing up as the football messiah with Biblical scripture numbers painted on his face. I don't blame Peens for going Loverboy on Tebow. I just hope he doesn't get that heebeegeebee with it or we're gonna have to resort to some Jerry Springer-level behavior mod tactics.

    - Tom F.

  • @riffer-x said:

    This is Peens' new schtick, bring in the idiot Mike Vick who is a suckass QB on top of being a suckass person.

    Great work Peens, I can't imagine being at a tailgate together toasting to Michael effing Vick. Come on, smarten up and quit trying to stir bullshit up.

    I'm shocked you want Tebow BTW, I would have never guessed. What is it about these tight butted lefty runners you like so much? Never mind..........

    It doesn't matter if anyone wants Vick because Andy Reid ain't letting him go at this point in time. That said, WE need Michael Vick to be good in order for us to have a shot at prying loose Kevin Kolb from Philly. I don't care how absurd that sounds.

    Your buddy Flugel seems to think that Tebow is going to be better at putting people in the seats in Jacksonville than WINNING did in earlier parts of 2009. I don't know if anyone else saw all the empty seats there when they were putting together wins; BUT don't underestimate the value of putting something in the product the customers/fans WANT to buy. Jax doesn't have this right now. I'll bet there's a lot of teabags for Tebow though as there prolly should be in that area of the country. I'm not saying I know what Tebow will do at the next level - I'm just saying they need to start putting fannies in the seats there a hop and a skip from Gainesville or Los Angeles just might have their next franchise on the horizon. Not sure WHY LA is the place the NFL is Jonesing for because they lost 2 teams from the SAME lack of interest going on in Jacksonville.

    It would be kind of ironic to see Tebow showing up as the football messiah with Biblical scripture numbers painted on his face. I don't blame Peens for going Loverboy on Tebow. I just hope he doesn't get that heebeegeebee with it or we're gonna have to resort to some Jerry Springer-level behavior mod tactics.

    - Tom F.

    @flugel said:

    It doesn't matter if anyone wants Vick because Andy Reid ain't letting him go at this point in time. That said, WE need Michael Vick to be good in order for us to have a shot at prying loose Kevin Kolb from Philly. I don't care how absurd that sounds.

    Your buddy Flugel seems to think that Tebow is going to be better at putting people in the seats in Jacksonville than WINNING did in earlier parts of 2009. I don't know if anyone else saw all the empty seats there when they were putting together wins; BUT don't underestimate the value of putting something in the product the customers/fans WANT to buy. Jax doesn't have this right now. I'll bet there's a lot of teabags for Tebow though as there prolly should be in that area of the country. I'm not saying I know what Tebow will do at the next level - I'm just saying they need to start putting fannies in the seats there a hop and a skip from Gainesville or Los Angeles just might have their next franchise on the horizon. Not sure WHY LA is the place the NFL is Jonesing for because they lost 2 teams from the SAME lack of interest going on in Jacksonville.

    It would be kind of ironic to see Tebow showing up as the football messiah with Biblical scripture numbers painted on his face. I don't blame Peens for going Loverboy on Tebow. I just hope he doesn't get that heebeegeebee with it or we're gonna have to resort to some Jerry Springer-level behavior mod tactics.

    - Tom F.

    Flugs, I've feared this for awhile now but just didn't want to believe it. Teabags is the quintessential Jaquar, he may as well be Mark Brunell reincarnate. Handsome, lefty, Christian, local god, can run with the ball---it's a perfect setup for a great marriage made in heaven for those crackers down there that in no way deserve a pro football team. They couldn't sell that place out when they were winning year in and year out, not to mention they sat on their hands and acted like FSU fan playing Arkansas State--"This is terrible, we are only winning 24-10, come on Mark."

    It just sucks we can lose one of our own Tennessee Browns fans to the Jags before they move. Peens already went Gator fan on us from Buckeye blood so who is to say he won't follow Timmy Teabaggage to the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party neighborhood.