McNabb to Cleveland?
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i'd like to do Corey Williams and St. Clair for 'ol Donovan...a starting 4-3 beast still in his prime and a starting tackle...good value for both parties, see if they bite. if not deal Rogers straight up.
as far as depth DL is about the only place we can spare someone of value. it would hurt losing that rotation and flexibility but we'd survive the loss...and definitely be better for it.
but a 4th rounder and a TE? seriously?!? you trying to get Heckert's replacement fired already?
i'd like to do Corey Williams and St. Clair for 'ol Donovan...a starting 4-3 beast still in his prime and a starting tackle...good value for both parties, see if they bite. if not deal Rogers straight up.
as far as depth DL is about the only place we can spare someone of value. it would hurt losing that rotation and flexibility but we'd survive the loss...and definitely be better for it.
but a 4th rounder and a TE? seriously?!? you trying to get Heckert's replacement fired already?
that's a bit of a stretch. i'm sorry, but if philly would straight up take the deal i'd dance in the streets and repent my sins. St clair sucks, corey williams had a good end of the season but the past two years overall has been awful. We can hope though haha
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Browns in market for quarterback?
Share Print It My T&R One thing became clear after listening to the Browns' new decision-makers this week: They want to do something about the team's quarterback situation. So it's very possible that the Browns will enter the 2010 season with their eighth starting quarterback in 12 years and seventh in the last eight years. When it comes to finding the next Browns' quarterback, you have to start with Mike Holmgren and Tom Heckert. That leads you to three primary candidates -- Matt Hasselbeck of Seattle, and Donovan McNabb and Kevin Kolb of Philadelphia.
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Browns in market for quarterback?
Share Print It My T&R One thing became clear after listening to the Browns' new decision-makers this week: They want to do something about the team's quarterback situation. So it's very possible that the Browns will enter the 2010 season with their eighth starting quarterback in 12 years and seventh in the last eight years. When it comes to finding the next Browns' quarterback, you have to start with Mike Holmgren and Tom Heckert. That leads you to three primary candidates -- Matt Hasselbeck of Seattle, and Donovan McNabb and Kevin Kolb of Philadelphia.
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I'm from Philly, and trust me, we don't want Mcnabb. He's not accurate and doesn't use his legs anymore. He has 1 talent, and that's the long ball.
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see what i'm saying. our perception in CLE is way different. they'd probably think they were robbing us with those offers.
he'd bring stability and a vet presence. he's my 1st choice as a mentor right now.
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Browns in market for quarterback?
Share Print It My T&R One thing became clear after listening to the Browns' new decision-makers this week: They want to do something about the team's quarterback situation. So it's very possible that the Browns will enter the 2010 season with their eighth starting quarterback in 12 years and seventh in the last eight years. When it comes to finding the next Browns' quarterback, you have to start with Mike Holmgren and Tom Heckert. That leads you to three primary candidates -- Matt Hasselbeck of Seattle, and Donovan McNabb and Kevin Kolb of Philadelphia.
Cleveland Plain Dealer
I'm from Philly, and trust me, we don't want Mcnabb. He's not accurate and doesn't use his legs anymore. He has 1 talent, and that's the long ball.
I'm from Philly, and trust me, we don't want Mcnabb. He's not accurate and doesn't use his legs anymore. He has 1 talent, and that's the long ball.
You just described DA. I would rather have Mcnabb than Anderson. Ideally, I like the idea of Kolb.
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i'd like to do Corey Williams and St. Clair for 'ol Donovan...a starting 4-3 beast still in his prime and a starting tackle...good value for both parties, see if they bite. if not deal Rogers straight up.
as far as depth DL is about the only place we can spare someone of value. it would hurt losing that rotation and flexibility but we'd survive the loss...and definitely be better for it.
but a 4th rounder and a TE? seriously?!? you trying to get Heckert's replacement fired already?
that's a bit of a stretch. i'm sorry, but if philly would straight up take the deal i'd dance in the streets and repent my sins. St clair sucks, corey williams had a good end of the season but the past two years overall has been awful. We can hope though haha
that's a bit of a stretch. i'm sorry, but if philly would straight up take the deal i'd dance in the streets and repent my sins. St clair sucks, corey williams had a good end of the season but the past two years overall has been awful. We can hope though haha
Corey Williams and Sean Rogers are better fits for the 4-3. either one would be a huge addition to the Eagle's D.
and i agree, St Clair does suck--tremendously, which was why i threw him in the mix. RT is one of our hugest needs and St. Clair is in no way the solution. i hope he never plays another down as a Brown.
but...as far as value on paper, he can play both L & R tackle and has a whole bunch of starts. adding him into the mix with Corey Williams more than sweetens the pie imo.
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I'm from Philly, and trust me, we don't want Mcnabb. He's not accurate and doesn't use his legs anymore. He has 1 talent, and that's the long ball.
You just described DA. I would rather have Mcnabb than Anderson. Ideally, I like the idea of Kolb.
You just described DA. I would rather have Mcnabb than Anderson. Ideally, I like the idea of Kolb.
DA is much more accurate.
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I don't see McNabb coming here. He wants to win towards the end of career, and we aren't too close to that. He wants a super bowl.
I would love to draft Sam Bradford, but I am skeptical about his shoulder injury. I still haven't given up on either of our QB's, but I think you have to keep one and trade the other in order for one to have a chance. You don't want the other one breathing behind your neck for ANOTHER season.
I'm not for drafting a QB in the first round, but if someone falls I wouldn't mind spending a second or later.
Metcalf_FTW said:
I don't see McNabb coming here. He wants to win towards the end of career, and we aren't too close to that. He wants a super bowl.I would love to draft Sam Bradford, but I am skeptical about his shoulder injury. I still haven't given up on either of our QB's, but I think you have to keep one and trade the other in order for one to have a chance. You don't want the other one breathing behind your neck for ANOTHER season.
I'm not for drafting a QB in the first round, but if someone falls I wouldn't mind spending a second or later.
Winning does not come 1st for Mcnabb. I've never seen a guy smile during a loss as much as he does. Again, I'm from Philly and have watched this guy on a weekly basis for like 10 years now. He's not a winner, and is far from a leader on the field. I've never seen a QB call less audibles than Donny. He can't read a defense, and is one of the mose inaccurate passers in the game. We may win LESS games next season with him behind Center.
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Metcalf_FTW said:
I don't see McNabb coming here. He wants to win towards the end of career, and we aren't too close to that. He wants a super bowl.I would love to draft Sam Bradford, but I am skeptical about his shoulder injury. I still haven't given up on either of our QB's, but I think you have to keep one and trade the other in order for one to have a chance. You don't want the other one breathing behind your neck for ANOTHER season.
I'm not for drafting a QB in the first round, but if someone falls I wouldn't mind spending a second or later.
Winning does not come 1st for Mcnabb. I've never seen a guy smile during a loss as much as he does. Again, I'm from Philly and have watched this guy on a weekly basis for like 10 years now. He's not a winner, and is far from a leader on the field. I've never seen a QB call less audibles than Donny. He can't read a defense, and is one of the mose inaccurate passers in the game. We may win LESS games next season with him behind Center.
Winning does not come 1st for Mcnabb. I've never seen a guy smile during a loss as much as he does. Again, I'm from Philly and have watched this guy on a weekly basis for like 10 years now. He's not a winner, and is far from a leader on the field. I've never seen a QB call less audibles than Donny. He can't read a defense, and is one of the mose inaccurate passers in the game. We may win LESS games next season with him behind Center.
I have to agree with you on this. Ever since he started vomiting in the Super Bowl and lost the game for his team, I've been watching him pretty closely. I really think he is the most over-rated QB in the league. No other QB in the league wastes as much time yelling at refs, laughing and smiling when the game is lost, dancing after making a play while the game clock ticks down, and fails in big games. That's why I am lobbying for Kolb. I mean, I'll take McNabb considering our current situation here, but I would want him replaced in two years max once the new QB is ready to play. And I don't want to give up too much to get him. I have to believe Heckert won't get jobbed in any deal, especially one involoving a player he knows inside and out. I am willing to deal Rogers for Kolb but not for McNabb, no way. If they'll take Williams and a 3rd round pick, I'll do it. But not for anything more.
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Kolb > McNabb. I'm afraid he'll sprain his ankle before even playing a game for the Browns.
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Looks like the Vikes will go after him if Farve is calling it quits. Rumored to give up a second rounder for him.
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I hear that if Favre retires, McNabb is a possiblity to be traded to the Vikings to replace him. They run essentially the same offensive system in Minn. as in Philly.
I hear that if Favre retires, McNabb is a possibility to be traded to the Vikings to replace him. They run essentially the same offensive system in Minn. as in Philly.
Agreed- if Farve retires, the only place McNabb is going to is Minnesota.
It will be interesting to see what Holmgren decides- if he thinks Quinn isn't "it" (we know DA isn't) I see no point in bringing is a stopgap qb like McNabb, unless MH thinks he sees the next Bret Farve in this draft (I don't).
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I hear that if Favre retires, McNabb is a possibility to be traded to the Vikings to replace him. They run essentially the same offensive system in Minn. as in Philly.
Agreed- if Farve retires, the only place McNabb is going to is Minnesota.
It will be interesting to see what Holmgren decides- if he thinks Quinn isn't "it" (we know DA isn't) I see no point in bringing is a stopgap qb like McNabb, unless MH thinks he sees the next Bret Farve in this draft (I don't).
Agreed- if Farve retires, the only place McNabb is going to is Minnesota.
It will be interesting to see what Holmgren decides- if he thinks Quinn isn't "it" (we know DA isn't) I see no point in bringing is a stopgap qb like McNabb, unless MH thinks he sees the next Bret Farve in this draft (I don't).
I'll have to re-think that- Assuming Warner retires today, put Arizona in the mix.
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