McNabb to Cleveland?
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Dan LeFevour would be your best bet. He is a proven winner and won't come with a huge price tag like Bradford. you could pick him up in the 3rd round.
I am not sold on Bradford, McCoy or Tebow at the next level. LeFevour has the "it" factor - he just wins.
LeFevour led CMU to a bowl victory in the 2006 Motor City Bowl. He was named the bowl game's MVP, winning as a redshirt freshman. Dan was one of 35 players named to the Manning Award Watch List in August 2007.[2] He was named Mid-American Conference West Division Player of the Week for two consecutive weeks in October 2007,[3] and again in the second week of November.[4] Lefevour also garnered USA Today's Player of the Week for the week of October 16, 2007.[5] On December 1, 2007 LeFevour became the second player in Division I FBS history to pass for over 3,000 yards and rush for over 1,000 yards in a single season (Vince Young was the first). On September 12, 2009 at Michigan State, LeFevour passed Byron Leftwich to take over as the MAC all-time leader in total offense in a career. He currently holds Mid American Conference records for career completions, attempts, passing yards, passing touchdowns, total touchdowns, and total offensive yards. LeFevour is the only player in NCAA history with over 12,000 passing yards and 2,500 rushing yards and currently sits 2nd all time in total offensive yards. He also holds the FBS record for total touchdowns with 150.
Dan LeFevour would be your best bet. He is a proven winner and won't come with a huge price tag like Bradford. you could pick him up in the 3rd round.
I am not sold on Bradford, McCoy or Tebow at the next level. LeFevour has the "it" factor - he just wins.
LeFevour led CMU to a bowl victory in the 2006 Motor City Bowl. He was named the bowl game's MVP, winning as a redshirt freshman. Dan was one of 35 players named to the Manning Award Watch List in August 2007.[2] He was named Mid-American Conference West Division Player of the Week for two consecutive weeks in October 2007,[3] and again in the second week of November.[4] Lefevour also garnered USA Today's Player of the Week for the week of October 16, 2007.[5] On December 1, 2007 LeFevour became the second player in Division I FBS history to pass for over 3,000 yards and rush for over 1,000 yards in a single season (Vince Young was the first). On September 12, 2009 at Michigan State, LeFevour passed Byron Leftwich to take over as the MAC all-time leader in total offense in a career. He currently holds Mid American Conference records for career completions, attempts, passing yards, passing touchdowns, total touchdowns, and total offensive yards. LeFevour is the only player in NCAA history with over 12,000 passing yards and 2,500 rushing yards and currently sits 2nd all time in total offensive yards. He also holds the FBS record for total touchdowns with 150.
FYI Bradford, McCoy and Tebow all "just win" as well...
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I hear that if Favre retires, McNabb is a possiblity to be traded to the Vikings to replace him. They run essentially the same offensive system in Minn. as in Philly.
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Dan LeFevour would be your best bet. He is a proven winner and won't come with a huge price tag like Bradford. you could pick him up in the 3rd round.
I am not sold on Bradford, McCoy or Tebow at the next level. LeFevour has the "it" factor - he just wins.
LeFevour led CMU to a bowl victory in the 2006 Motor City Bowl. He was named the bowl game's MVP, winning as a redshirt freshman. Dan was one of 35 players named to the Manning Award Watch List in August 2007.[2] He was named Mid-American Conference West Division Player of the Week for two consecutive weeks in October 2007,[3] and again in the second week of November.[4] Lefevour also garnered USA Today's Player of the Week for the week of October 16, 2007.[5] On December 1, 2007 LeFevour became the second player in Division I FBS history to pass for over 3,000 yards and rush for over 1,000 yards in a single season (Vince Young was the first). On September 12, 2009 at Michigan State, LeFevour passed Byron Leftwich to take over as the MAC all-time leader in total offense in a career. He currently holds Mid American Conference records for career completions, attempts, passing yards, passing touchdowns, total touchdowns, and total offensive yards. LeFevour is the only player in NCAA history with over 12,000 passing yards and 2,500 rushing yards and currently sits 2nd all time in total offensive yards. He also holds the FBS record for total touchdowns with 150.
FYI Bradford, McCoy and Tebow all "just win" as well...
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yes but you will pay more for them and have to draft earlier to get them. LeFevour is the best choice that won't cause you to have to overpay.
Tebow is not an NFL QB - he's a passing fullback
Bradford is injury prone
McCoy is great but he will demand huge money
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Dawgfanforever88 said:
I guess somethings come full circle....he couldve been our QB back in 99'Yep - like Ben could have been your QB in 2004 - dumb da da dumb
Yep - like Ben could have been your QB in 2004 - dumb da da dumb
Ben would not be nearly as good as he is now if he were drafted by Cleveland so that really does not make any sense. He was protected by a dominant run game and a dominant defense in his early years while he developed his skills. He would not have had that opportunity in Cleveland. We need a qb that created for himself when receivers are not open and one that can complete a pass downfield to a receiver who is open.
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Dawgfanforever88 said:
I guess somethings come full circle....he couldve been our QB back in 99'Yep - like Ben could have been your QB in 2004 - dumb da da dumb
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yes but you will pay more for them and have to draft earlier to get them. LeFevour is the best choice that won't cause you to have to overpay.
Tebow is not an NFL QB - he's a passing fullback
Bradford is injury prone
McCoy is great but he will demand huge money
McCoy is great but he will demand huge money
Well he won't get it based on his draft spot.
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As much as LeFevour is getting talked up, I think he wont make it to the 3rd round. His stock is growing. The only issue with him would be his prostyle offense he didnt run in college. It will take about a year or so to get his 7 step drop down with the speed of the NFL. He will be good, but it will take a bit of time. Kolb most likely wont go anywhere. Mcnabb still has a little bit left. he didnt have Westbrook to dump off those little screen passes that he always takes to the house. He still did well, he broke some ribs and still came back from that. All in all his running game killed him this year. Id give a 4th rounder and one of our TE's for him, not " Moore". I cant wait to find out though who its going to be. Its like the nfl is year round for us crazy fans. God Bless you crazy bastards.
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i'd like to do Corey Williams and St. Clair for 'ol Donovan...a starting 4-3 beast still in his prime and a starting tackle...good value for both parties, see if they bite. if not deal Rogers straight up.
as far as depth DL is about the only place we can spare someone of value. it would hurt losing that rotation and flexibility but we'd survive the loss...and definitely be better for it.
but a 4th rounder and a TE? seriously?!? you trying to get Heckert's replacement fired already?
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i'd like to do Corey Williams and St. Clair for 'ol Donovan...a starting 4-3 beast still in his prime and a starting tackle...good value for both parties, see if they bite. if not deal Rogers straight up.
as far as depth DL is about the only place we can spare someone of value. it would hurt losing that rotation and flexibility but we'd survive the loss...and definitely be better for it.
but a 4th rounder and a TE? seriously?!? you trying to get Heckert's replacement fired already?
i'd like to do Corey Williams and St. Clair for 'ol Donovan...a starting 4-3 beast still in his prime and a starting tackle...good value for both parties, see if they bite. if not deal Rogers straight up.
as far as depth DL is about the only place we can spare someone of value. it would hurt losing that rotation and flexibility but we'd survive the loss...and definitely be better for it.
but a 4th rounder and a TE? seriously?!? you trying to get Heckert's replacement fired already?
that's a bit of a stretch. i'm sorry, but if philly would straight up take the deal i'd dance in the streets and repent my sins. St clair sucks, corey williams had a good end of the season but the past two years overall has been awful. We can hope though haha
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Browns in market for quarterback?
Share Print It My T&R One thing became clear after listening to the Browns' new decision-makers this week: They want to do something about the team's quarterback situation. So it's very possible that the Browns will enter the 2010 season with their eighth starting quarterback in 12 years and seventh in the last eight years. When it comes to finding the next Browns' quarterback, you have to start with Mike Holmgren and Tom Heckert. That leads you to three primary candidates -- Matt Hasselbeck of Seattle, and Donovan McNabb and Kevin Kolb of Philadelphia.
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Browns in market for quarterback?
Share Print It My T&R One thing became clear after listening to the Browns' new decision-makers this week: They want to do something about the team's quarterback situation. So it's very possible that the Browns will enter the 2010 season with their eighth starting quarterback in 12 years and seventh in the last eight years. When it comes to finding the next Browns' quarterback, you have to start with Mike Holmgren and Tom Heckert. That leads you to three primary candidates -- Matt Hasselbeck of Seattle, and Donovan McNabb and Kevin Kolb of Philadelphia.
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I'm from Philly, and trust me, we don't want Mcnabb. He's not accurate and doesn't use his legs anymore. He has 1 talent, and that's the long ball.
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see what i'm saying. our perception in CLE is way different. they'd probably think they were robbing us with those offers.
he'd bring stability and a vet presence. he's my 1st choice as a mentor right now.
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Browns in market for quarterback?
Share Print It My T&R One thing became clear after listening to the Browns' new decision-makers this week: They want to do something about the team's quarterback situation. So it's very possible that the Browns will enter the 2010 season with their eighth starting quarterback in 12 years and seventh in the last eight years. When it comes to finding the next Browns' quarterback, you have to start with Mike Holmgren and Tom Heckert. That leads you to three primary candidates -- Matt Hasselbeck of Seattle, and Donovan McNabb and Kevin Kolb of Philadelphia.
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I'm from Philly, and trust me, we don't want Mcnabb. He's not accurate and doesn't use his legs anymore. He has 1 talent, and that's the long ball.
I'm from Philly, and trust me, we don't want Mcnabb. He's not accurate and doesn't use his legs anymore. He has 1 talent, and that's the long ball.
You just described DA. I would rather have Mcnabb than Anderson. Ideally, I like the idea of Kolb.
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i'd like to do Corey Williams and St. Clair for 'ol Donovan...a starting 4-3 beast still in his prime and a starting tackle...good value for both parties, see if they bite. if not deal Rogers straight up.
as far as depth DL is about the only place we can spare someone of value. it would hurt losing that rotation and flexibility but we'd survive the loss...and definitely be better for it.
but a 4th rounder and a TE? seriously?!? you trying to get Heckert's replacement fired already?
that's a bit of a stretch. i'm sorry, but if philly would straight up take the deal i'd dance in the streets and repent my sins. St clair sucks, corey williams had a good end of the season but the past two years overall has been awful. We can hope though haha
that's a bit of a stretch. i'm sorry, but if philly would straight up take the deal i'd dance in the streets and repent my sins. St clair sucks, corey williams had a good end of the season but the past two years overall has been awful. We can hope though haha
Corey Williams and Sean Rogers are better fits for the 4-3. either one would be a huge addition to the Eagle's D.
and i agree, St Clair does suck--tremendously, which was why i threw him in the mix. RT is one of our hugest needs and St. Clair is in no way the solution. i hope he never plays another down as a Brown.
but...as far as value on paper, he can play both L & R tackle and has a whole bunch of starts. adding him into the mix with Corey Williams more than sweetens the pie imo.
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I'm from Philly, and trust me, we don't want Mcnabb. He's not accurate and doesn't use his legs anymore. He has 1 talent, and that's the long ball.
You just described DA. I would rather have Mcnabb than Anderson. Ideally, I like the idea of Kolb.
You just described DA. I would rather have Mcnabb than Anderson. Ideally, I like the idea of Kolb.
DA is much more accurate.
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I don't see McNabb coming here. He wants to win towards the end of career, and we aren't too close to that. He wants a super bowl.
I would love to draft Sam Bradford, but I am skeptical about his shoulder injury. I still haven't given up on either of our QB's, but I think you have to keep one and trade the other in order for one to have a chance. You don't want the other one breathing behind your neck for ANOTHER season.
I'm not for drafting a QB in the first round, but if someone falls I wouldn't mind spending a second or later.
Metcalf_FTW said:
I don't see McNabb coming here. He wants to win towards the end of career, and we aren't too close to that. He wants a super bowl.I would love to draft Sam Bradford, but I am skeptical about his shoulder injury. I still haven't given up on either of our QB's, but I think you have to keep one and trade the other in order for one to have a chance. You don't want the other one breathing behind your neck for ANOTHER season.
I'm not for drafting a QB in the first round, but if someone falls I wouldn't mind spending a second or later.
Winning does not come 1st for Mcnabb. I've never seen a guy smile during a loss as much as he does. Again, I'm from Philly and have watched this guy on a weekly basis for like 10 years now. He's not a winner, and is far from a leader on the field. I've never seen a QB call less audibles than Donny. He can't read a defense, and is one of the mose inaccurate passers in the game. We may win LESS games next season with him behind Center.
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Metcalf_FTW said:
I don't see McNabb coming here. He wants to win towards the end of career, and we aren't too close to that. He wants a super bowl.I would love to draft Sam Bradford, but I am skeptical about his shoulder injury. I still haven't given up on either of our QB's, but I think you have to keep one and trade the other in order for one to have a chance. You don't want the other one breathing behind your neck for ANOTHER season.
I'm not for drafting a QB in the first round, but if someone falls I wouldn't mind spending a second or later.
Winning does not come 1st for Mcnabb. I've never seen a guy smile during a loss as much as he does. Again, I'm from Philly and have watched this guy on a weekly basis for like 10 years now. He's not a winner, and is far from a leader on the field. I've never seen a QB call less audibles than Donny. He can't read a defense, and is one of the mose inaccurate passers in the game. We may win LESS games next season with him behind Center.
Winning does not come 1st for Mcnabb. I've never seen a guy smile during a loss as much as he does. Again, I'm from Philly and have watched this guy on a weekly basis for like 10 years now. He's not a winner, and is far from a leader on the field. I've never seen a QB call less audibles than Donny. He can't read a defense, and is one of the mose inaccurate passers in the game. We may win LESS games next season with him behind Center.
I have to agree with you on this. Ever since he started vomiting in the Super Bowl and lost the game for his team, I've been watching him pretty closely. I really think he is the most over-rated QB in the league. No other QB in the league wastes as much time yelling at refs, laughing and smiling when the game is lost, dancing after making a play while the game clock ticks down, and fails in big games. That's why I am lobbying for Kolb. I mean, I'll take McNabb considering our current situation here, but I would want him replaced in two years max once the new QB is ready to play. And I don't want to give up too much to get him. I have to believe Heckert won't get jobbed in any deal, especially one involoving a player he knows inside and out. I am willing to deal Rogers for Kolb but not for McNabb, no way. If they'll take Williams and a 3rd round pick, I'll do it. But not for anything more.
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Kolb > McNabb. I'm afraid he'll sprain his ankle before even playing a game for the Browns.
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