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  • NO doubt Marshall is extremely talented. He's also Braylon #2, with much better hands. ESPN can speculate all they want to, but if Mangini's first year is any indication Marshall isn't coming to Cleveland.

    +1, ESPN actually get people to pay money to read this BS?

    Finally, I doubt Holmgren would be that mean to Quinn. Sending a Browns fan to Denver would be like exile to Siberia.

  • hoortaH hoorta

    NO doubt Marshall is extremely talented. He's also Braylon #2, with much better hands. ESPN can speculate all they want to, but if Mangini's first year is any indication Marshall isn't coming to Cleveland.

    +1, ESPN actually get people to pay money to read this BS?

    Finally, I doubt Holmgren would be that mean to Quinn. Sending a Browns fan to Denver would be like exile to Siberia.

    @hoorta said:

    I doubt Holmgren would be that mean to Quinn.

    LOL, he's a big meanie. Dude, what is Quinn 12 years old?

    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12

  • Zombo said:

    Orton just had a good season, Quinn was iffy at best. Marshall is one of the most talented receivers in the league.

    Makes no sense at all. Not one iota.

    Marshall's not going anywhere.

    Zombo

    --But if he did ... it would be for a whole lot more than Brady Quinn.

    Quinn was IFFY????..

    I must have missed those good games 😵

  • I'd take Marshall for sure, but we'd need a QB who can actually get him the ball.

    One bad apple does not necessarily spoil the bunch, but in reality i don't see Marshall as a Mangini guy.

  • We would have to give up a hell of a lot to nab Marshall. McDaniels knows what he has, and is also a greedy xxxxing bastard. Personally, I'm still shocked that he found a way to coerce Chicago into giving up two firsts, a third and Orton for Cutler. You think Chicago is regretting that trade now?

    Marshall is worth much more than Cutler. They've been together since they were drafted. There was always speculation on who made who better, but I think that matter's been settled this year. Cutler gets traded, Marshall has probably his best season, and earns his second consecutive Pro Bowl nod. Cutler, on the other hand, has his worst statistical year and becomes the scapegoat for Chicago's less-than-spectcular season.

    If McDaniels can get that deal for Cutler, imagine what he could get for Marshall. Granted, Cutler was coming off of his best season to date in 2008. But Marshall is coming off of his best season this year, as well. I'd imagine the deal would have to be something similar to Cutler's.

    Here's a breakdown of the Cutler deal, and the deal I imagine would have to be in order for Marshall, if Cutler's deal is any indication:

    Cutler (+2009 5th Rd. (140th))

    2009- 1st Rd. (18th)

    2010- 1st Rd. (10th/11th)

    2010- 3rd Rd. (74th/75th)

    Kyle Orton (Starting QB for CHI, 4th Round pick (106th))

    Marshall

    2010- 1st Rd. (7th)

    2011- 1st Rd. (TBD, hopefully 32nd, probably >17th)

    2010- 5th Rd. (135th) (They are missing a 2010 5th)

    Mohamed Massaquoi (starting WR for CLE, 2nd Round pick (50th))

    Now, I don't see this happening. Not in the least. I think, for one, Holmgren/Heckert wouldn't write off on it. Secondly, I don't see Marshall garnering that much in terms of a trade.

    Marshall would be a welcome addition in Cleveland, I can tell you that much. He's earned his nickname, he truly is a "beast". But his off-the-field problems would definitely be an influencing factor in Mangini's mind, and what we would have to sacrifice to get him would be a factor in Holmgren's/ Heckert's mind.

    All in all, I doubt anything will happen.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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  • GipsG Gips

    I can see the brownies potentially wanting to trade both DA and BQ but to even consider trading a good character guy and a workhorse like quinn for a douchebag like marshall is insulting...i cant see the browns doing something like this...

    @gips said:

    I can see the brownies potentially wanting to trade both DA and BQ but to even consider trading a good character guy and a workhorse like quinn for a douchebag like marshall is insulting...i cant see the browns doing something like this...

    i'd much rather have a douchbag, all pro wide receiver who can BANG on the field than a good character, workhorse, marginally skilled, back up QB who most likely does not have the poise/self confidence required to lead his team to the pinnacle..

    tell me your post is a satire..

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    We would have to give up a hell of a lot to nab Marshall. McDaniels knows what he has, and is also a greedy xxxxing bastard. Personally, I'm still shocked that he found a way to coerce Chicago into giving up two firsts, a third and Orton for Cutler. You think Chicago is regretting that trade now?

    Marshall is worth much more than Cutler. They've been together since they were drafted. There was always speculation on who made who better, but I think that matter's been settled this year. Cutler gets traded, Marshall has probably his best season, and earns his second consecutive Pro Bowl nod. Cutler, on the other hand, has his worst statistical year and becomes the scapegoat for Chicago's less-than-spectcular season.

    If McDaniels can get that deal for Cutler, imagine what he could get for Marshall. Granted, Cutler was coming off of his best season to date in 2008. But Marshall is coming off of his best season this year, as well. I'd imagine the deal would have to be something similar to Cutler's.

    Here's a breakdown of the Cutler deal, and the deal I imagine would have to be in order for Marshall, if Cutler's deal is any indication:

    Cutler (+2009 5th Rd. (140th))

    2009- 1st Rd. (18th)

    2010- 1st Rd. (10th/11th)

    2010- 3rd Rd. (74th/75th)

    Kyle Orton (Starting QB for CHI, 4th Round pick (106th))

    Marshall

    2010- 1st Rd. (7th)

    2011- 1st Rd. (TBD, hopefully 32nd, probably >17th)

    2010- 5th Rd. (135th) (They are missing a 2010 5th)

    Mohamed Massaquoi (starting WR for CLE, 2nd Round pick (50th))

    Now, I don't see this happening. Not in the least. I think, for one, Holmgren/Heckert wouldn't write off on it. Secondly, I don't see Marshall garnering that much in terms of a trade.

    Marshall would be a welcome addition in Cleveland, I can tell you that much. He's earned his nickname, he truly is a "beast". But his off-the-field problems would definitely be an influencing factor in Mangini's mind, and what we would have to sacrifice to get him would be a factor in Holmgren's/ Heckert's mind.

    All in all, I doubt anything will happen.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Here's a breakdown of the Cutler deal, and the deal I imagine would have to be in order for Marshall, if Cutler's deal is any indication:

    Cutler (+2009 5th Rd. (140th))

    2009- 1st Rd. (18th)

    2010- 1st Rd. (10th/11th)

    2010- 3rd Rd. (74th/75th)

    Kyle Orton (Starting QB for CHI, 4th Round pick (106th))

    Marshall

    2010- 1st Rd. (7th)

    2011- 1st Rd. (TBD, hopefully 32nd, probably >17th)

    2010- 5th Rd. (135th) (They are missing a 2010 5th)

    Mohamed Massaquoi (starting WR for CLE, 2nd Round pick (50th))

    All in all, I doubt anything will happen.

    Please- surely you jest. The Browns traded Paul Warfield for a high first rounder. There's not a WR who ever played in the NFL, and you can count Jerry Rice in that statement- that's worth a top 10 pick, another first rounder + a player. That's franchise qb fodder, not a freaking WR!

    Some team that thinks they're on the SB cusp and in need of a wr may offer a low first rounder for Marshall, but that will be the extent of it.

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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Here's a breakdown of the Cutler deal, and the deal I imagine would have to be in order for Marshall, if Cutler's deal is any indication:

    Cutler (+2009 5th Rd. (140th))

    2009- 1st Rd. (18th)

    2010- 1st Rd. (10th/11th)

    2010- 3rd Rd. (74th/75th)

    Kyle Orton (Starting QB for CHI, 4th Round pick (106th))

    Marshall

    2010- 1st Rd. (7th)

    2011- 1st Rd. (TBD, hopefully 32nd, probably >17th)

    2010- 5th Rd. (135th) (They are missing a 2010 5th)

    Mohamed Massaquoi (starting WR for CLE, 2nd Round pick (50th))

    All in all, I doubt anything will happen.

    Please- surely you jest. The Browns traded Paul Warfield for a high first rounder. There's not a WR who ever played in the NFL, and you can count Jerry Rice in that statement- that's worth a top 10 pick, another first rounder + a player. That's franchise qb fodder, not a freaking WR!

    Some team that thinks they're on the SB cusp and in need of a wr may offer a low first rounder for Marshall, but that will be the extent of it.

    @hoorta said:

    Please- surely you jest. The Browns traded Paul Warfield for a high first rounder. There's not a WR who ever played in the NFL, and you can count Jerry Rice in that statement- that's worth a top 10 pick, another first rounder + a player. That's franchise qb fodder, not a freaking WR!

    Some team that thinks they're on the SB cusp and in need of a wr may offer a low first rounder for Marshall, but that will be the extent of it.

    I'm just basing it off of Cutler's deal that McDaniels somehow pulled out of his ass. He got Chicago to radically overpay for Cutler, and I expect him to try and get the same deal for Marshall. Do I expect anyone to go for it? Well, that's a different story.

    And I believe there are WR's that are worth that. I fully believe that it's the WR that makes the QB, not the other way around. Ultimately, the QB is completely dependant on the WR to actually catch the ball that is thrown to him.

    The Paul Warfield trade was a joke.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • hoortaH hoorta

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Here's a breakdown of the Cutler deal, and the deal I imagine would have to be in order for Marshall, if Cutler's deal is any indication:

    Cutler (+2009 5th Rd. (140th))

    2009- 1st Rd. (18th)

    2010- 1st Rd. (10th/11th)

    2010- 3rd Rd. (74th/75th)

    Kyle Orton (Starting QB for CHI, 4th Round pick (106th))

    Marshall

    2010- 1st Rd. (7th)

    2011- 1st Rd. (TBD, hopefully 32nd, probably >17th)

    2010- 5th Rd. (135th) (They are missing a 2010 5th)

    Mohamed Massaquoi (starting WR for CLE, 2nd Round pick (50th))

    All in all, I doubt anything will happen.

    Please- surely you jest. The Browns traded Paul Warfield for a high first rounder. There's not a WR who ever played in the NFL, and you can count Jerry Rice in that statement- that's worth a top 10 pick, another first rounder + a player. That's franchise qb fodder, not a freaking WR!

    Some team that thinks they're on the SB cusp and in need of a wr may offer a low first rounder for Marshall, but that will be the extent of it.

    @hoorta said:

    Please- surely you jest. The Browns traded Paul Warfield for a high first rounder. There's not a WR who ever played in the NFL, and you can count Jerry Rice in that statement- that's worth a top 10 pick, another first rounder + a player. That's franchise qb fodder, not a freaking WR!

    Some team that thinks they're on the SB cusp and in need of a wr may offer a low first rounder for Marshall, but that will be the extent of it.

    Cowboys traded the bank for Roy Williams. Marshall is far more talented and the Broncos could easily hold out for a truckload of picks.

  • S samoth

    @hoorta said:

    Please- surely you jest. The Browns traded Paul Warfield for a high first rounder. There's not a WR who ever played in the NFL, and you can count Jerry Rice in that statement- that's worth a top 10 pick, another first rounder + a player. That's franchise qb fodder, not a freaking WR!

    Some team that thinks they're on the SB cusp and in need of a wr may offer a low first rounder for Marshall, but that will be the extent of it.

    Cowboys traded the bank for Roy Williams. Marshall is far more talented and the Broncos could easily hold out for a truckload of picks.

    @samoth said:

    Cowboys traded the bank for Roy Williams. Marshall is far more talented and the Broncos could easily hold out for a truckload of picks.

    Just sayin' THE DONKEYS WON'T GET THEM.

    I'll list the WR that went high later. But- in the all time crackhead trade Al Davis dumped Randy Moss for a 4th rounder. The Browns got a third rounder and a bunch of STers and spot starters for Edwards. So ROTFLOL, some team's gonna give up TWO first round picks for Marshall + a player? No way in hell.

    Recent top 10 wr picks Heyward-Bey (another reason Al Davis should be declared legally dead), Crabtree, Calvin Johnson, Ted Ginn, Braylon Edwards, Mike Williams. You think the Lions would trade Johnson for Marshall straight up? Uh, nope. So there's your ceiling, and I'm willing to bet the floor is way lower.

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