Tim Tebow Unveiling New Delivery
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ill still pass on him.
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we could certainly do worse. he must have been reading Jason J lol.
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I'd take him with our second round pick.
In the end, that would be a steal.
The easy part of QBing is the footwork and arm position.
This isn't changing how the guy throws....just where he holds the ball.
He has all the tough stuff down pretty good.
I have a feeling both Holmgren and Mangini are going to like the kid when they sit down and talk football.
For a while now people have been talking all we need is a game manager....well, he is a game manager....and a lot more.
We could win championships with him.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
I'd take him with our second round pick.
In the end, that would be a steal.
The easy part of QBing is the footwork and arm position.
This isn't changing how the guy throws....just where he holds the ball.
He has all the tough stuff down pretty good.
I have a feeling both Holmgren and Mangini are going to like the kid when they sit down and talk football.
For a while now people have been talking all we need is a game manager....well, he is a game manager....and a lot more.
We could win championships with him.
I'd take him with our second round pick.
In the end, that would be a steal.
The easy part of QBing is the footwork and arm position.
This isn't changing how the guy throws....just where he holds the ball.
He has all the tough stuff down pretty good.
I have a feeling both Holmgren and Mangini are going to like the kid when they sit down and talk football.
For a while now people have been talking all we need is a game manager....well, he is a game manager....and a lot more.
We could win championships with him.
Florida Homer alert
Like Granny always said- "If you can't be good...Be good at It." -
I'd take him with our second round pick.
In the end, that would be a steal.
The easy part of QBing is the footwork and arm position.
This isn't changing how the guy throws....just where he holds the ball.
He has all the tough stuff down pretty good.
I have a feeling both Holmgren and Mangini are going to like the kid when they sit down and talk football.
For a while now people have been talking all we need is a game manager....well, he is a game manager....and a lot more.
We could win championships with him.
I'd take him with our second round pick.
In the end, that would be a steal.
The easy part of QBing is the footwork and arm position.
This isn't changing how the guy throws....just where he holds the ball.
He has all the tough stuff down pretty good.
I have a feeling both Holmgren and Mangini are going to like the kid when they sit down and talk football.
For a while now people have been talking all we need is a game manager....well, he is a game manager....and a lot more.
We could win championships with him.
Changing where he holds the ball will change how he throws tremendously. For one, it will take a substantial amount of time from his release. That will affect his accuracy, because it will take him less time for the ball to actually come out of his hand. Tebow had one of, if not the longest deliveries in college football. I'd place him second in the past 20 years to Byron Leftwich. The guy just took a week to throw the ball. This new ball positioning and release could cut that delivery time in half. He looks a lot sharper in the video.
Secondly, it could either take some zip off of his throws, or make his throws faster, depending on his footwork. You see a lot of college QB's try to strongarm their passes because it's the way they were taught in high school. They don't incorporate their entire body into the throw, and all of the power comes from their abdominals and up. Jamarcus Russell is a good example of this. Russell was glorified because of his arm strength, and they showcased it by having him throw a number of passes from his knees as well as sitting on the ground. The guy could throw something like 70 yards from his knees, and 50 sitting down. I believe Kyle Boller could do the same thing, or something pretty close. It was crazy. Unfortunately, it proved Jamarcus was all upper body. Tebow was guilty of this too, although not to the extent of Jamarcus.
As any viable QB coach can tell you, 80% of a person's throw power comes from their legs. If you watch some of the great QB's over time, you'll notice that when they throw those 15-30 yard bullets, or those 70 yard bombs, they plant that back foot and drive straight through the throw. In college, Tebow rarely dropped back. Most of his passes were out of shotgun, and a hefty amount of them were on the run. That's what's been killing his stock, we all know this. It was a rarity to see him plant his feet when he threw. Tebow had a hell of an arm, but it was all arm and really nothing else. Sort of like Jamarcus, but a hell of a lot better.
Now, if Tebow really adapts well to the 3,5, and 7-step drops (which I honestly expect him to do), his throwing power could benefit from his new release. He'll be able to plant that foot and fire a rocket in there. But if Tebow's footwork doesn't come along (like Jamarcus' never did) and he tries to incorporate his new release with his old footwork, his throws will lose a substantial amount of zip on them. Basically, Tebow has to become a completely different QB than what he was used to by March 17th. He's come a long way, it seems. The footwork seems to be the last part of the puzzle.
In the end, changing his ball positioning and release will greatly affect the way he throws, but in a positive way. That is, if everything goes according to plan.
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I'd take him with our second round pick.
In the end, that would be a steal.
The easy part of QBing is the footwork and arm position.
This isn't changing how the guy throws....just where he holds the ball.
He has all the tough stuff down pretty good.
I have a feeling both Holmgren and Mangini are going to like the kid when they sit down and talk football.
For a while now people have been talking all we need is a game manager....well, he is a game manager....and a lot more.
We could win championships with him.
I'd take him with our second round pick.
In the end, that would be a steal.
The easy part of QBing is the footwork and arm position.
This isn't changing how the guy throws....just where he holds the ball.
He has all the tough stuff down pretty good.
I have a feeling both Holmgren and Mangini are going to like the kid when they sit down and talk football.
For a while now people have been talking all we need is a game manager....well, he is a game manager....and a lot more.
We could win championships with him.
I am a HUGE fan of this kid & I agree. I think he'll lead SOME team to a Championship some day. I'm hoping it's the Browns.
Mike
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
I'd take him with our second round pick.
In the end, that would be a steal.
The easy part of QBing is the footwork and arm position.
This isn't changing how the guy throws....just where he holds the ball.
He has all the tough stuff down pretty good.
I have a feeling both Holmgren and Mangini are going to like the kid when they sit down and talk football.
For a while now people have been talking all we need is a game manager....well, he is a game manager....and a lot more.
We could win championships with him.
Florida Homer alert
Florida Homer alert
I won't deny that....as a Florida alumni, it is hard to be anything else.
I do however try to be objective.
I do think the guy has the qualities it takes to be a winner and leader at the position.
The last Fla player I felt this way about was Emmett Smith...people kept saying he wasn't big enough or good enough....wasn't going to be more then some option...this was before the net, so I still see some of these people
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I think he would be worth a shot... imo
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Florida Homer alert
I won't deny that....as a Florida alumni, it is hard to be anything else.
I do however try to be objective.
I do think the guy has the qualities it takes to be a winner and leader at the position.
The last Fla player I felt this way about was Emmett Smith...people kept saying he wasn't big enough or good enough....wasn't going to be more then some option...this was before the net, so I still see some of these people
I won't deny that....as a Florida alumni, it is hard to be anything else.
I do however try to be objective.
I do think the guy has the qualities it takes to be a winner and leader at the position.
The last Fla player I felt this way about was Emmett Smith...people kept saying he wasn't big enough or good enough....wasn't going to be more then some option...this was before the net, so I still see some of these people
fair enough it was just funny how you were all gushy
"He can win Championships"
I wouldn't mind a 3rd a second I would have to think about.
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I am all for spending a second on him.
I was very critical of the guy his first couple years, basically because I see this kid with his bible pusher attitude getting all the good press, and I’m thinking this guy’s full of $hit, he’s out drinking whiskey and plowing whores just like the rest of us. Plus helping beat us down in the bcs title game didn’t help.
But He has grown on me and I think this kid is the real deal. He wants to win and he is defiantly a team player.
I don’t see his release or footwork being a problem he’s a qb and just needs a little coaching and he’ll get it. He has the root movements down now all he has to do is practice a better way of doing things.
Not much different than a major league pitcher that can only throw a 95mph heater, with some coaching and practice he will be able to throw a change up.
Tebow started working on improving his mechanics right after the senior bowl to show scouts and coaches that he can do it.
The only downfall that I see is that he can’t forget about the mistakes that he made like the elite qb’s do. He seems to get down on himself and stays down for the entire game; the senior bowl was a perfect example. Now how does that translate to the nfl when the game speeds way up and you are getting slammed to the turf? Most rookies are shocked at how much faster the game is and have a hard time adjusting.
But he did play in SEC arguably the fastest and best division in college football for the past 4 years, so that may give him a leg up.
But then again what ever happened to Chris leak?
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Could he impress enough to move into round 1? I certainly hope not! That would be a heck of a change...
He could become a Steve Young type QB if the delivery issues are taken care of.
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Could he impress enough to move into round 1? I certainly hope not! That would be a heck of a change...
He could become a Steve Young type QB if the delivery issues are taken care of.
He could become a Steve Young type QB if the delivery issues are taken care of.
What's that...Scrambling south paws?
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I'd take him with our second round pick.
In the end, that would be a steal.
The easy part of QBing is the footwork and arm position.
This isn't changing how the guy throws....just where he holds the ball.
He has all the tough stuff down pretty good.
I have a feeling both Holmgren and Mangini are going to like the kid when they sit down and talk football.
For a while now people have been talking all we need is a game manager....well, he is a game manager....and a lot more.
We could win championships with him.
I am a HUGE fan of this kid & I agree. I think he'll lead SOME team to a Championship some day. I'm hoping it's the Browns.
Mike
I am a HUGE fan of this kid & I agree. I think he'll lead SOME team to a Championship some day. I'm hoping it's the Browns.
Mike
Tim Tebow = Gino Torretta
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I am all for spending a second on him.
I was very critical of the guy his first couple years, basically because I see this kid with his bible pusher attitude getting all the good press, and I’m thinking this guy’s full of $hit, he’s out drinking whiskey and plowing whores just like the rest of us. Plus helping beat us down in the bcs title game didn’t help.
But He has grown on me and I think this kid is the real deal. He wants to win and he is defiantly a team player.
I don’t see his release or footwork being a problem he’s a qb and just needs a little coaching and he’ll get it. He has the root movements down now all he has to do is practice a better way of doing things.
Not much different than a major league pitcher that can only throw a 95mph heater, with some coaching and practice he will be able to throw a change up.
Tebow started working on improving his mechanics right after the senior bowl to show scouts and coaches that he can do it.
The only downfall that I see is that he can’t forget about the mistakes that he made like the elite qb’s do. He seems to get down on himself and stays down for the entire game; the senior bowl was a perfect example. Now how does that translate to the nfl when the game speeds way up and you are getting slammed to the turf? Most rookies are shocked at how much faster the game is and have a hard time adjusting.
But he did play in SEC arguably the fastest and best division in college football for the past 4 years, so that may give him a leg up.
But then again what ever happened to Chris leak?
I am all for spending a second on him.
I was very critical of the guy his first couple years, basically because I see this kid with his bible pusher attitude getting all the good press, and I’m thinking this guy’s full of $hit, he’s out drinking whiskey and plowing whores just like the rest of us. Plus helping beat us down in the bcs title game didn’t help.
But He has grown on me and I think this kid is the real deal. He wants to win and he is defiantly a team player.
I don’t see his release or footwork being a problem he’s a qb and just needs a little coaching and he’ll get it. He has the root movements down now all he has to do is practice a better way of doing things.
Not much different than a major league pitcher that can only throw a 95mph heater, with some coaching and practice he will be able to throw a change up.
Tebow started working on improving his mechanics right after the senior bowl to show scouts and coaches that he can do it.
The only downfall that I see is that he can’t forget about the mistakes that he made like the elite qb’s do. He seems to get down on himself and stays down for the entire game; the senior bowl was a perfect example. Now how does that translate to the nfl when the game speeds way up and you are getting slammed to the turf? Most rookies are shocked at how much faster the game is and have a hard time adjusting.
But he did play in SEC arguably the fastest and best division in college football for the past 4 years, so that may give him a leg up.
But then again what ever happened to Chris leak?
Right, it was Leak, not Tebow that led Florida to that first title over OSU. And what kind of pro career has he had? None that I know of. I think he may be in Canada.
To me, Tebow is worth maybe a 6th rounder. Worth a shot if we have 10 other picks, but not worth the investment of a higher pick.
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Could he impress enough to move into round 1? I certainly hope not! That would be a heck of a change...
He could become a Steve Young type QB if the delivery issues are taken care of.
If Holmgren thinks this is his guy don't be surprised if we take him in the 1st. It doesn't matter where other teams have him ranked because it only takes one team to take him in late round 1 to screw everything up.
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can't teach an old dog new tricks
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Could he impress enough to move into round 1? I certainly hope not! That would be a heck of a change...
He could become a Steve Young type QB if the delivery issues are taken care of.
If Holmgren thinks this is his guy don't be surprised if we take him in the 1st. It doesn't matter where other teams have him ranked because it only takes one team to take him in late round 1 to screw everything up.
He could become a Steve Young type QB if the delivery issues are taken care of.
Again what is a Steve young type qb????
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Could he impress enough to move into round 1? I certainly hope not! That would be a heck of a change...
He could become a Steve Young type QB if the delivery issues are taken care of.
Could he impress enough to move into round 1? I certainly hope not! That would be a heck of a change...
He could become a Steve Young type QB if the delivery issues are taken care of.
Sure he can.....just wait for people to start talking to the guy. The guy is sharp.
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I am a HUGE fan of this kid & I agree. I think he'll lead SOME team to a Championship some day. I'm hoping it's the Browns.
Mike
Tim Tebow = Gino Torretta
Tim Tebow = Gino Torretta
I don't think so.
To the largest degree, Miami made Toretta with the talent around him.
To a large degree, Tebow made Florida, even with the talent around him.
There is a big difference.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
He could become a Steve Young type QB if the delivery issues are taken care of.
Again what is a Steve young type qb????
Again what is a Steve young type qb????
A QB who is a huge threat rolling out, he can break tackles if he runs but will accurately throw the ball on the run if that is the best option.
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