Jerome Harrison
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That’s just it. Apparently I’m not hard pressed, because Mopaji and TimCouchpullsout both think if we can get a 3rd rounder for Harrison, we should pull the trigger.
I'll give you all the money in my savings account if you can find where I said that.
Good luck, because you can't. I said that if we were to trade him, now would be the year. Because this will most likely be his highest value, and we can get an RB with the same skill set in the 3rd round (or even probably later) in the draft.
Putting words in people's mouths makes you look foolish. Just a hint.
I'll give you all the money in my savings account if you can find where I said that.
Good luck, because you can't. I said that if we were to trade him, now would be the year. Because this will most likely be his highest value, and we can get an RB with the same skill set in the 3rd round (or even probably later) in the draft.
Putting words in people's mouths makes you look foolish. Just a hint.
Why would you want to trade a guy with a known entity for a guy with an unknown entity who would have to go through the same learning curve that Harrison did?
He's ready, he broke out, capitalize on him don't give him away. The kid can ball.
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That’s just it. Apparently I’m not hard pressed, because Mopaji and TimCouchpullsout both think if we can get a 3rd rounder for Harrison, we should pull the trigger.
I'll give you all the money in my savings account if you can find where I said that.
Good luck, because you can't. I said that if we were to trade him, now would be the year. Because this will most likely be his highest value, and we can get an RB with the same skill set in the 3rd round (or even probably later) in the draft.
Putting words in people's mouths makes you look foolish. Just a hint.
I'll give you all the money in my savings account if you can find where I said that.
Good luck, because you can't. I said that if we were to trade him, now would be the year. Because this will most likely be his highest value, and we can get an RB with the same skill set in the 3rd round (or even probably later) in the draft.
Putting words in people's mouths makes you look foolish. Just a hint.
Your posts on this topic make you look foolish. Don't think guys that quick with the hands and vision he has are dime a dozen in the 3rd. And if they were that still would not justify your thought process on trading him.
Also mopaji you have lost all credibility with your false claims of fumbling and bad hands. Clearly you are not even watching the games and are literally just making things up about a player you know nothing about.
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That’s just it. Apparently I’m not hard pressed, because Mopaji and TimCouchpullsout both think if we can get a 3rd rounder for Harrison, we should pull the trigger.
I'll give you all the money in my savings account if you can find where I said that.
Good luck, because you can't. I said that if we were to trade him, now would be the year. Because this will most likely be his highest value, and we can get an RB with the same skill set in the 3rd round (or even probably later) in the draft.
Putting words in people's mouths makes you look foolish. Just a hint.
I'll give you all the money in my savings account if you can find where I said that.
Good luck, because you can't. I said that if we were to trade him, now would be the year. Because this will most likely be his highest value, and we can get an RB with the same skill set in the 3rd round (or even probably later) in the draft.
Putting words in people's mouths makes you look foolish. Just a hint.
Would you, or would you not, take a 3rd rounder for Harrison?
If you would, then my statement stands. I never said you said anything exactly. Just what you have already said you'd be ok with.
When you blatantly imply something, then my stating the obvious inference is not putting words in your mouth.
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he wasn't "kept" off the field.....he simply was an unwilling blocker. that was really RAC's fault imo, because he never broke him of the habit. at least mangini tried, rather than just cutting him.
no one would (or at least, should) question his ball skills. kid can run......
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I'll give you all the money in my savings account if you can find where I said that.
Good luck, because you can't. I said that if we were to trade him, now would be the year. Because this will most likely be his highest value, and we can get an RB with the same skill set in the 3rd round (or even probably later) in the draft.
Putting words in people's mouths makes you look foolish. Just a hint.
Would you, or would you not, take a 3rd rounder for Harrison?
If you would, then my statement stands. I never said you said anything exactly. Just what you have already said you'd be ok with.
When you blatantly imply something, then my stating the obvious inference is not putting words in your mouth.
Would you, or would you not, take a 3rd rounder for Harrison?
If you would, then my statement stands. I never said you said anything exactly. Just what you have already said you'd be ok with.
When you blatantly imply something, then my stating the obvious inference is not putting words in your mouth.
I would not.
So your statement doesn't stand. And, once again, I never said I'd be okay with taking a third rounder for him.
I don't see how you can infer that I would take Harrison for a third when I never said anything of the sort. I've clearly stated my stance on the subject multiple times, so if you're going to reference me then you can reference what I've actually said. Not what you think I'd do.
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I'll give you all the money in my savings account if you can find where I said that.
Good luck, because you can't. I said that if we were to trade him, now would be the year. Because this will most likely be his highest value, and we can get an RB with the same skill set in the 3rd round (or even probably later) in the draft.
Putting words in people's mouths makes you look foolish. Just a hint.
Why would you want to trade a guy with a known entity for a guy with an unknown entity who would have to go through the same learning curve that Harrison did?
He's ready, he broke out, capitalize on him don't give him away. The kid can ball.
Why would you want to trade a guy with a known entity for a guy with an unknown entity who would have to go through the same learning curve that Harrison did?
He's ready, he broke out, capitalize on him don't give him away. The kid can ball.
Harrison isn't a known entity. All he's proven to me is that he can run against bad defenses when we have a good offensive line. That's not proving anything, in my book. I would be more content with his abilities if he performed against teams like San Diego and Pittsburgh. The only game he surprised me in was the early season Cincinatti game.
I'm not saying he's bad. I'm just saying he hasn't proven himself to be a "baller" yet.
I don't know how I can make this any clearer. I'm not saying that we should trade Harrison. I am saying that, if we were to trade Harrison, now would be the best year to do so.
Once again, I'm not saying that we should trade Harrison. I am saying that, if we were to trade Harrison, now would be the best year to do so.
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why do you want to trade harrison, tcpo?
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The difference between Harrison and every other feature back in the league is about 15-20lbs of muscle. Plus, he fumbles, he has bad hands, and he cannot block. You can draft a RB who weighs 220lbs in the 4th round who can catch, block, and hold onto the ball. I'm not even sure a team would give up a 3rd for him but that's what I would require. I'm hoping some team out there sees his last few games and makes us an offer. Look, I like Jerome but he happens to play a position in the NFL that is expendable. He is the 'change-of-pace' back. Two coaching staffs couldn't be wrong about Harrison and Quinn's ability. There are flaww in his game. And with this team having so many needs, you have to look for offers before the draft.
I'm starting to see the Brady Quinn complex come out. A lot of fans ignoring the team's situation and are staying fixated on the chance to say "I told you so! I told you he was good".
The difference between Harrison and every other feature back in the league is about 15-20lbs of muscle. Plus, he fumbles, he has bad hands, and he cannot block. You can draft a RB who weighs 220lbs in the 4th round who can catch, block, and hold onto the ball. I'm not even sure a team would give up a 3rd for him but that's what I would require. I'm hoping some team out there sees his last few games and makes us an offer. Look, I like Jerome but he happens to play a position in the NFL that is expendable. He is the 'change-of-pace' back. Two coaching staffs couldn't be wrong about Harrison and Quinn's ability. There are flaww in his game. And with this team having so many needs, you have to look for offers before the draft.
I'm starting to see the Brady Quinn complex come out. A lot of fans ignoring the team's situation and are staying fixated on the chance to say "I told you so! I told you he was good".
listen, i don't think any browns fans on this forum wants for the team to be bad or make bad decisions. but when has JH really had a chance to show us anything besides the last half of last year? coaches, so-called gms and the hierarchy most likely always bow to a player that in the past has been good or great and gets paid top dollar, but now is over the hill (in the nba look at mcgrady) but you have to play them cuz you are paying him that top dollar.........and he sucks. aka jamal lewis. two years ago you'd be lucky to see harrison get 10 touches a game, and then they were always in spots where the defense knew we were gonna run and are O line couldn't block for ruth buzzi. hey, we've got a great spot in this year's draft at #7, why talk about trading a guy that was are only bright spot on offense besides cribbs? we aren't talking about trading him are we?
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i usually dont take side on things that don't regard me, but I have to admit timmy never once has said he is in favor of taking a 3rd rounder for him. What he's been saying all along (which is honestly true, although won't happen) that his highest trade value is probably right now. It's good to just put up hypothetical to look at something from all angles. Don't worry tim, I understand what you're doing.
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Would you, or would you not, take a 3rd rounder for Harrison?
If you would, then my statement stands. I never said you said anything exactly. Just what you have already said you'd be ok with.
When you blatantly imply something, then my stating the obvious inference is not putting words in your mouth.
I would not.
So your statement doesn't stand. And, once again, I never said I'd be okay with taking a third rounder for him.
I don't see how you can infer that I would take Harrison for a third when I never said anything of the sort. I've clearly stated my stance on the subject multiple times, so if you're going to reference me then you can reference what I've actually said. Not what you think I'd do.
I would not.
So your statement doesn't stand. And, once again, I never said I'd be okay with taking a third rounder for him.
I don't see how you can infer that I would take Harrison for a third when I never said anything of the sort. I've clearly stated my stance on the subject multiple times, so if you're going to reference me then you can reference what I've actually said. Not what you think I'd do.
Dude, how can you sit there and say you’d be ok with a 3rd rounder for Harrison out one side of your mouth, and out the other say, I wouldn’t do it and then say that I can’t infer that you’d be ok with a 3rd rounder for Harrison? You make no sense whatsoever. Your word is meaningless in this conversation from now on.
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Why would you want to trade a guy with a known entity for a guy with an unknown entity who would have to go through the same learning curve that Harrison did?
He's ready, he broke out, capitalize on him don't give him away. The kid can ball.
Harrison isn't a known entity. All he's proven to me is that he can run against bad defenses when we have a good offensive line. That's not proving anything, in my book. I would be more content with his abilities if he performed against teams like San Diego and Pittsburgh. The only game he surprised me in was the early season Cincinatti game.
I'm not saying he's bad. I'm just saying he hasn't proven himself to be a "baller" yet.
I don't know how I can make this any clearer. I'm not saying that we should trade Harrison. I am saying that, if we were to trade Harrison, now would be the best year to do so.
Once again, I'm not saying that we should trade Harrison. I am saying that, if we were to trade Harrison, now would be the best year to do so.
Harrison isn't a known entity. All he's proven to me is that he can run against bad defenses when we have a good offensive line. That's not proving anything, in my book. I would be more content with his abilities if he performed against teams like San Diego and Pittsburgh. The only game he surprised me in was the early season Cincinatti game.
I'm not saying he's bad. I'm just saying he hasn't proven himself to be a "baller" yet.
I don't know how I can make this any clearer. I'm not saying that we should trade Harrison. I am saying that, if we were to trade Harrison, now would be the best year to do so.
Once again, I'm not saying that we should trade Harrison. I am saying that, if we were to trade Harrison, now would be the best year to do so.
He is a hell of a lot more known than any rookie we might draft.
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I would not.
So your statement doesn't stand. And, once again, I never said I'd be okay with taking a third rounder for him.
I don't see how you can infer that I would take Harrison for a third when I never said anything of the sort. I've clearly stated my stance on the subject multiple times, so if you're going to reference me then you can reference what I've actually said. Not what you think I'd do.
Dude, how can you sit there and say you’d be ok with a 3rd rounder for Harrison out one side of your mouth, and out the other say, I wouldn’t do it and then say that I can’t infer that you’d be ok with a 3rd rounder for Harrison? You make no sense whatsoever. Your word is meaningless in this conversation from now on.
Dude, how can you sit there and say you’d be ok with a 3rd rounder for Harrison out one side of your mouth, and out the other say, I wouldn’t do it and then say that I can’t infer that you’d be ok with a 3rd rounder for Harrison? You make no sense whatsoever. Your word is meaningless in this conversation from now on.
What the xxxx are you talking about? I'm sitting here, asking you to tell me when I have ever said that I was okay with a 3rd rounder for Harrison. I haven't said it out of either side of my mouth, because I've never said it at all. I literally have never said that. I don't know where you're getting this from, but you're wrong and you have been from the beginning.
I'm honestly starting to believe that you are crazy.
If I go by your reasoning, then I can say that you're saying you want LaDanian Tomlinson out of one side of your mouth and out of the other side you're saying you want Jerome Harrison. Since we're just making shit up now.
Once again, I have never said that I would take a 3rd rounder for Jerome Harrison.
Nor do I want to trade him, I'm only saying that if we were to trade him, now would be the time.
You people are delusional. You just pick and choose the things you want to read from posts and ignore the rest.
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i usually dont take side on things that don't regard me, but I have to admit timmy never once has said he is in favor of taking a 3rd rounder for him. What he's been saying all along (which is honestly true, although won't happen) that his highest trade value is probably right now. It's good to just put up hypothetical to look at something from all angles. Don't worry tim, I understand what you're doing.
i usually dont take side on things that don't regard me, but I have to admit timmy never once has said he is in favor of taking a 3rd rounder for him. What he's been saying all along (which is honestly true, although won't happen) that his highest trade value is probably right now. It's good to just put up hypothetical to look at something from all angles. Don't worry tim, I understand what you're doing.
Thank you, at least somebody is capable at taking their emotions out of things for a half-second to look at something objectively.
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That’s just it. Apparently I’m not hard pressed, because Mopaji and TimCouchpullsout both think if we can get a 3rd rounder for Harrison, we should pull the trigger.
I'll give you all the money in my savings account if you can find where I said that.
Good luck, because you can't. I said that if we were to trade him, now would be the year. Because this will most likely be his highest value, and we can get an RB with the same skill set in the 3rd round (or even probably later) in the draft.
Putting words in people's mouths makes you look foolish. Just a hint.
I said that if we were to trade him, now would be the year. Because this will most likely be his highest value, and we can get an RB with the same skill set in the 3rd round (or even probably later) in the draft.
So I can't infer that you'd be ok with a 3rd rounder for him based on this comment?
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I said that if we were to trade him, now would be the year. Because this will most likely be his highest value, and we can get an RB with the same skill set in the 3rd round (or even probably later) in the draft.
So I can't infer that you'd be ok with a 3rd rounder for him based on this comment?
So I can't infer that you'd be ok with a 3rd rounder for him based on this comment?
No? How could you? Just because it has the term "3rd round" in it? Did you just search my username and the keyword "3rd round" in order to make accusations against me?
So this statement has been the basis of your argument against me this entire time? To think, I was actually worried that you knew what you were talking about.
What my aforementioned statement describes is us trading Jerome Harrison and using one of our multiple 3rd round picks to grab an RB. Nowhere in there did I say that we should trade him for a 3rd rounder.
As I said before, it may do you good to actually read the full statements, and not pick and choose what you want to hear.
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The difference between Harrison and every other feature back in the league is about 15-20lbs of muscle. Plus, he fumbles, he has bad hands, and he cannot block. You can draft a RB who weighs 220lbs in the 4th round who can catch, block, and hold onto the ball. I'm not even sure a team would give up a 3rd for him but that's what I would require. I'm hoping some team out there sees his last few games and makes us an offer. Look, I like Jerome but he happens to play a position in the NFL that is expendable. He is the 'change-of-pace' back. Two coaching staffs couldn't be wrong about Harrison and Quinn's ability. There are flaww in his game. And with this team having so many needs, you have to look for offers before the draft.
I'm starting to see the Brady Quinn complex come out. A lot of fans ignoring the team's situation and are staying fixated on the chance to say "I told you so! I told you he was good".
listen, i don't think any browns fans on this forum wants for the team to be bad or make bad decisions. but when has JH really had a chance to show us anything besides the last half of last year? coaches, so-called gms and the hierarchy most likely always bow to a player that in the past has been good or great and gets paid top dollar, but now is over the hill (in the nba look at mcgrady) but you have to play them cuz you are paying him that top dollar.........and he sucks. aka jamal lewis. two years ago you'd be lucky to see harrison get 10 touches a game, and then they were always in spots where the defense knew we were gonna run and are O line couldn't block for ruth buzzi. hey, we've got a great spot in this year's draft at #7, why talk about trading a guy that was are only bright spot on offense besides cribbs? we aren't talking about trading him are we?
listen, i don't think any browns fans on this forum wants for the team to be bad or make bad decisions. but when has JH really had a chance to show us anything besides the last half of last year? coaches, so-called gms and the hierarchy most likely always bow to a player that in the past has been good or great and gets paid top dollar, but now is over the hill (in the nba look at mcgrady) but you have to play them cuz you are paying him that top dollar.........and he sucks. aka jamal lewis. two years ago you'd be lucky to see harrison get 10 touches a game, and then they were always in spots where the defense knew we were gonna run and are O line couldn't block for ruth buzzi. hey, we've got a great spot in this year's draft at #7, why talk about trading a guy that was are only bright spot on offense besides cribbs? we aren't talking about trading him are we?
I get all that. I even get why fans want to see more of him. I even like him as a RB. And if it were any other other year I would say keep him. But this year is a HUUUUUGE draft year for the Browns moving forward and the draft is loaded with talent. I just want to take full advantage of this scenerio. And if it means trading away one of the few guys we have with any trade value to infuse some young talent in here, I'm all for it. Especially when this team is built to run and whoever is back there will do well. In a perfect world, we would send Jennings back to the practice squad, Sign T. Jones, Leon Washington, or some other FA back and develope Davis by rotating him with Jones all year. In the process, we would have two draft picks for J. Harrison and a very nicely built backfield. Is Harrison good, yes, can he help this team, yes, would I be happy with him staying here, yes, can his role be filled by somebody else for less money and in the process gain two draft picks in a very very deep draft, yup. And that really is the basis for this trade idea.
Look, at the start of last year most fans were on board with the idea that this team would get a major face-lift in 2010. That time is here and there are only a few ways to acheive that face-lift. The most practical and effective way of doing that is by trading away any player with any market value from the previous regime. One of those guys is Harrison. The others are Rogers, Williams, and Quinn.
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listen, i don't think any browns fans on this forum wants for the team to be bad or make bad decisions. but when has JH really had a chance to show us anything besides the last half of last year? coaches, so-called gms and the hierarchy most likely always bow to a player that in the past has been good or great and gets paid top dollar, but now is over the hill (in the nba look at mcgrady) but you have to play them cuz you are paying him that top dollar.........and he sucks. aka jamal lewis. two years ago you'd be lucky to see harrison get 10 touches a game, and then they were always in spots where the defense knew we were gonna run and are O line couldn't block for ruth buzzi. hey, we've got a great spot in this year's draft at #7, why talk about trading a guy that was are only bright spot on offense besides cribbs? we aren't talking about trading him are we?
I get all that. I even get why fans want to see more of him. I even like him as a RB. And if it were any other other year I would say keep him. But this year is a HUUUUUGE draft year for the Browns moving forward and the draft is loaded with talent. I just want to take full advantage of this scenerio. And if it means trading away one of the few guys we have with any trade value to infuse some young talent in here, I'm all for it. Especially when this team is built to run and whoever is back there will do well. In a perfect world, we would send Jennings back to the practice squad, Sign T. Jones, Leon Washington, or some other FA back and develope Davis by rotating him with Jones all year. In the process, we would have two draft picks for J. Harrison and a very nicely built backfield. Is Harrison good, yes, can he help this team, yes, would I be happy with him staying here, yes, can his role be filled by somebody else for less money and in the process gain two draft picks in a very very deep draft, yup. And that really is the basis for this trade idea.
Look, at the start of last year most fans were on board with the idea that this team would get a major face-lift in 2010. That time is here and there are only a few ways to acheive that face-lift. The most practical and effective way of doing that is by trading away any player with any market value from the previous regime. One of those guys is Harrison. The others are Rogers, Williams, and Quinn.
I get all that. I even get why fans want to see more of him. I even like him as a RB. And if it were any other other year I would say keep him. But this year is a HUUUUUGE draft year for the Browns moving forward and the draft is loaded with talent. I just want to take full advantage of this scenerio. And if it means trading away one of the few guys we have with any trade value to infuse some young talent in here, I'm all for it. Especially when this team is built to run and whoever is back there will do well. In a perfect world, we would send Jennings back to the practice squad, Sign T. Jones, Leon Washington, or some other FA back and develope Davis by rotating him with Jones all year. In the process, we would have two draft picks for J. Harrison and a very nicely built backfield. Is Harrison good, yes, can he help this team, yes, would I be happy with him staying here, yes, can his role be filled by somebody else for less money and in the process gain two draft picks in a very very deep draft, yup. And that really is the basis for this trade idea.
Look, at the start of last year most fans were on board with the idea that this team would get a major face-lift in 2010. That time is here and there are only a few ways to acheive that face-lift. The most practical and effective way of doing that is by trading away any player with any market value from the previous regime. One of those guys is Harrison. The others are Rogers, Williams, and Quinn.
i think if the coaching staff knows that davis or jennings are capapble replacements and we could get TWO DRAFT PICKS (one in at least the second round) i would do it in a heartbeat. i'm just afraid that we trade a player away that could be a 1,000+ yard a year rusher and draft a couple of bums that are out of the league in a couple of years. i know nothing is guaranteed in this league and drafting any player comes with it's risks, but why draft a player in the first place to trade him two years down the line? it's not like we don't have a multitude of picks already. and if it's a serious draft year trade down from #7 and get another pick. but if this team is on the cusp of being really good, stay and 7 and hope berry is there or one of the DTs. or maybe a RT.
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So I can't infer that you'd be ok with a 3rd rounder for him based on this comment?
No? How could you? Just because it has the term "3rd round" in it? Did you just search my username and the keyword "3rd round" in order to make accusations against me?
So this statement has been the basis of your argument against me this entire time? To think, I was actually worried that you knew what you were talking about.
What my aforementioned statement describes is us trading Jerome Harrison and using one of our multiple 3rd round picks to grab an RB. Nowhere in there did I say that we should trade him for a 3rd rounder.
As I said before, it may do you good to actually read the full statements, and not pick and choose what you want to hear.
No? How could you? Just because it has the term "3rd round" in it? Did you just search my username and the keyword "3rd round" in order to make accusations against me?
So this statement has been the basis of your argument against me this entire time? To think, I was actually worried that you knew what you were talking about.
What my aforementioned statement describes is us trading Jerome Harrison and using one of our multiple 3rd round picks to grab an RB. Nowhere in there did I say that we should trade him for a 3rd rounder.
As I said before, it may do you good to actually read the full statements, and not pick and choose what you want to hear.
If that wasn't an inference, then you need to learn better communication skills.
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No? How could you? Just because it has the term "3rd round" in it? Did you just search my username and the keyword "3rd round" in order to make accusations against me?
So this statement has been the basis of your argument against me this entire time? To think, I was actually worried that you knew what you were talking about.
What my aforementioned statement describes is us trading Jerome Harrison and using one of our multiple 3rd round picks to grab an RB. Nowhere in there did I say that we should trade him for a 3rd rounder.
As I said before, it may do you good to actually read the full statements, and not pick and choose what you want to hear.
If that wasn't an inference, then you need to learn better communication skills.
If that wasn't an inference, then you need to learn better communication skills.
Do you honestly think that was an inference, or are you just trying to belittle me because you realize you were in the wrong?
Because if you honestly believe that's an inference, I'm going to have to watch you perform in daily life. It must be hilarious. I bet you think strippers like you, too.
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If that wasn't an inference, then you need to learn better communication skills.
Do you honestly think that was an inference, or are you just trying to belittle me because you realize you were in the wrong?
Because if you honestly believe that's an inference, I'm going to have to watch you perform in daily life. It must be hilarious. I bet you think strippers like you, too.
Do you honestly think that was an inference, or are you just trying to belittle me because you realize you were in the wrong?
Because if you honestly believe that's an inference, I'm going to have to watch you perform in daily life. It must be hilarious. I bet you think strippers like you, too.
You know, when having a discussion it becomes useful to be able to take past comments by everyone involved as context for new and current comments.
So that being said, a 3rd rounder was brought up as what would be fair compensation for Harrison.
You made your comment, saying that equal compensation would be a 3rd rounder (or I believe a better approximation of your words, were that a 3rd rounder would give us the same thing that Harrison does).
If in context of the conversation, that isn't you implying that a 3rd rounder could replace Harrison, that you think if we were to trade him, we should do so now cause his stock will never be higher, that you'd be ok with getting a 3rd rounder for Harrison, then you really do need to figure out how to communicate better.
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