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  • yosemitejamY yosemitejam

    Tebow can scoot....I was surprised at his off the line torque...Now how that relates to success as a NFL QB is anybody's guess but i think the kid understands that he is basically starting over again and needs to prove himself.....It is obvious he is serious about doing whatever it takes to succeed at the next level.....He get's an A for effort from me...

    If anyone has a good source for combine video let me know..Did you know that vegas takes bets on combine events???? Only in America

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    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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    @yosemitejam said:

    Tebow can scoot....I was surprised at his off the line torque...Now how that relates to success as a NFL QB is anybody's guess but i think the kid understands that he is basically starting over again and needs to prove himself.....It is obvious he is serious about doing whatever it takes to succeed at the next level.....He get's an A for effort from me...

    If anyone has a good source for combine video let me know..Did you know that vegas takes bets on combine events???? Only in America

    It's just the way the kid is....what you see isn't a act....it is genuine and the way the guy is...I don't think the kid cares what he is paid.

    He just wants to have someone want him...and the team that does is going to get the steal of the draft.

    That kid is going to be a Super Bowl MVP....as a QB.

    As Mooch said....he could play QB for me any day......Chucky has said the same thing.....both Holmgren guys......I bet Holmgren likes his too.

    If he is there at our pick in the 2nd, I think there is a good chance we take him.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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      @yosemitejam said:

      Tebow can scoot....I was surprised at his off the line torque...Now how that relates to success as a NFL QB is anybody's guess but i think the kid understands that he is basically starting over again and needs to prove himself.....It is obvious he is serious about doing whatever it takes to succeed at the next level.....He get's an A for effort from me...

      If anyone has a good source for combine video let me know..Did you know that vegas takes bets on combine events???? Only in America

      It's just the way the kid is....what you see isn't a act....it is genuine and the way the guy is...I don't think the kid cares what he is paid.

      He just wants to have someone want him...and the team that does is going to get the steal of the draft.

      That kid is going to be a Super Bowl MVP....as a QB.

      As Mooch said....he could play QB for me any day......Chucky has said the same thing.....both Holmgren guys......I bet Holmgren likes his too.

      If he is there at our pick in the 2nd, I think there is a good chance we take him.

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      @ballpeen said:

      It's just the way the kid is....what you see isn't a act....it is genuine and the way the guy is...I don't think the kid cares what he is paid.

      He just wants to have someone want him...and the team that does is going to get the steal of the draft.

      That kid is going to be a Super Bowl MVP....as a QB.

      As Mooch said....he could play QB for me any day......Chucky has said the same thing.....both Holmgren guys......I bet Holmgren likes his too.

      If he is there at our pick in the 2nd, I think there is a good chance we take him.

      If he has a good showing at his pro day, he'll not make to the 2nd round.....I think he goes in the 1st, for sure. I think the Jags get him at #10.

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      • yosemitejamY yosemitejam

        Tebow can scoot....I was surprised at his off the line torque...Now how that relates to success as a NFL QB is anybody's guess but i think the kid understands that he is basically starting over again and needs to prove himself.....It is obvious he is serious about doing whatever it takes to succeed at the next level.....He get's an A for effort from me...

        If anyone has a good source for combine video let me know..Did you know that vegas takes bets on combine events???? Only in America

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        @yosemitejam said:

        Tebow can scoot....I was surprised at his off the line torque...Now how that relates to success as a NFL QB is anybody's guess but i think the kid understands that he is basically starting over again and needs to prove himself.....It is obvious he is serious about doing whatever it takes to succeed at the next level.....He get's an A for effort from me...

        If anyone has a good source for combine video let me know..Did you know that vegas takes bets on combine events???? Only in America

        Lefevour posted a faster time 🙄 He will be available in the later rounds also. I have seen the kid play, I was really impressed with him. I would love to see the Browns draft him

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          If the Browns believe tebow or mccoy are franchise QBs they must be taken with the 1st pick. You cannot screw around trying to get additional picks in if the right guy is there.

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            Think a lot of eyes will be on Earl Thomas today. Berry will most likely be gone at 7 and Mayock actually has Thomas rated ahead of him, what you guys think bout Thomas at 7?? Im still in the Joe Haden boat..

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              mopajiM mopaji wrote on last edited by mopaji
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              I don't think there is a bad pick at #7 but I maintain, I would rather see us trade out and get more picks. There is soo much depth this year and the more picks the better. However, I'm sold on Thomas, Berry, and Haden. Either one would be fine by me.

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                next2nothingN next2nothing wrote on last edited by next2nothing
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                Berry ran a 4.46

                Edit: Haden just ran a 4.57

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                  M maddogg7888 wrote on last edited by
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                  berry's official time was a 4.40, haden was slow, but his positional drills were impressive, his technique can make up for his lack of straight line speed

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                  • mopajiM mopaji

                    I don't think there is a bad pick at #7 but I maintain, I would rather see us trade out and get more picks. There is soo much depth this year and the more picks the better. However, I'm sold on Thomas, Berry, and Haden. Either one would be fine by me.

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                    b86bB b86b wrote on last edited by
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                    @mopaji said:

                    I don't think there is a bad pick at #7 but I maintain, I would rather see us trade out and get more picks. There is soo much depth this year and the more picks the better. However, I'm sold on Thomas, Berry, and Haden. Either one would be fine by me.

                    Haden's unofficial 4.57 and 4.60 40..

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                      taylor mays UNOFFICIALLY 4.24! DAMN

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                        taylor mays UNOFFICIALLY 4.24! DAMN

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                        ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife wrote on last edited by
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                        @maddogg7888 said:

                        taylor mays UNOFFICIALLY 4.24! DAMN

                        he still gets hurt a lot and blows his assignments. he's too risky for number 7 overall.

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          Haden will be re-running that 40 at his pro day, ... he looks outstanding on the various agility drills.

                          It's hard to believe he runs the 40 that "slow".

                          Does it change his status if he runs the 4.57/4.6 at his pro day ?

                          I honestly don't know. But one guy covering the combine says Earl Thomas is the best safety in the draft.

                          We could trade down, get another 2nd round pick, and still get Earl Thomas.

                          Oh, THIS draft is going to get crazy.

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                            @mopaji said:

                            I don't think there is a bad pick at #7 but I maintain, I would rather see us trade out and get more picks. There is soo much depth this year and the more picks the better. However, I'm sold on Thomas, Berry, and Haden. Either one would be fine by me.

                            Haden's unofficial 4.57 and 4.60 40..

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                            mopajiM mopaji wrote on last edited by mopaji
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                            @b86b said:

                            Haden's unofficial 4.57 and 4.60 40..

                            I'm still not too concerned about Haden's straight ahead speed. If he doesn't get beat a lot, he won't have to run anybody down. So its a damn good thing Eric Wright is fast! Boy, I'm really looking at this as the glass is half full.

                            His 40 time doesn't do enough to change my mind about him. What it does mean is that he should drop a few spots now. This may allow us to trade down, get some more picks, and get Haden for less money. But we'll see how Heckert and Company handle it. I would rather have Berry anyways. Or as mentioned above, that Earl Thomas kid. I think a safety is more valuable than a CB. They can cover more ground.

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                              Just saw this on CBSSportsline.com

                              02/27/2010 - "I have a lot to prove," Brown said Thursday. "I don't get talked about all the time on ESPN like those other guys because they're from big schools, and I'm from Troy. It's a great opportunity to let everybody see I can make all the throws and hopefully show I'm just as good as they are." Brown said he has talked to scouts from the Browns in Indianapolis, but he has not met with Coach Eric Mangini, team president Mike Holmgren or General Manager Tom Heckert, at least not yet. The Browns are expected to draft a quarterback with one of their 11 picks. One knock on Brown is he has a three-quarter arm delivery, and he doesn't plan to change it. "I've heard media people say it's an odd delivery and it's a problem," Brown said. "I disagree. I don't think it's a problem. The only reason it's different is it's quicker than anybody else's. "It would be a problem if I short-armed it and didn't have velocity, but that isn't the case. I think it's good because it's so quick. Hopefully everybody else agrees." Brown completed 61.7 percent of his passes in 2008 and 63.7 percent in 2009 playing in the Sun Belt Conference. - Jeff Schudel, The News-Herald

                              http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players...w;pageContainer

                              Interesting.....

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                                mopajiM mopaji wrote on last edited by mopaji
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                                One of my theories is that we will draft a QB and it will be somebody none of us have heard about. I expect them to grab a system QB with the Jets 3rd round pick that we have. Somebody like the kid from CBS sportsline. I like that he has a strange delivery. I remember some kid out of the U having a strange delivery and it worked out pretty well for us.

                                PS. This is going to sound like Jon Madden but...duh....duh....Levi Brown? If you want your kid to grow up and be a football player folks, name him Levi. That is a football name. Its on par with Tank Mass or Pyle Hitter. I like the look and sound of this kid.

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                                  C.J. Spiller...

                                  That is all. 😉

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                                    C.J. Spiller...

                                    That is all. 😉

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                                    yosemitejamY yosemitejam wrote on last edited by yosemitejam
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                                    C.J. Spiller...

                                    That is all. 😉

                                    I wouldn't mind seeing Cleveland Brown C.J. despoil with moribund pimp struts the pissburgh end zone several times next season.. Oh baby!!!!

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                                      @carolina-brownie said:

                                      C.J. Spiller...

                                      That is all. 😉

                                      I wouldn't mind seeing Cleveland Brown C.J. despoil with moribund pimp struts the pissburgh end zone several times next season.. Oh baby!!!!

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                                      @yosemitejam said:

                                      I wouldn't mind seeing Cleveland Brown C.J. despoil with moribund pimp struts the pissburgh end zone several times next season.. Oh baby!!!!

                                      Ha, hell yeah!

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                                        Just saw this on CBSSportsline.com

                                        02/27/2010 - "I have a lot to prove," Brown said Thursday. "I don't get talked about all the time on ESPN like those other guys because they're from big schools, and I'm from Troy. It's a great opportunity to let everybody see I can make all the throws and hopefully show I'm just as good as they are." Brown said he has talked to scouts from the Browns in Indianapolis, but he has not met with Coach Eric Mangini, team president Mike Holmgren or General Manager Tom Heckert, at least not yet. The Browns are expected to draft a quarterback with one of their 11 picks. One knock on Brown is he has a three-quarter arm delivery, and he doesn't plan to change it. "I've heard media people say it's an odd delivery and it's a problem," Brown said. "I disagree. I don't think it's a problem. The only reason it's different is it's quicker than anybody else's. "It would be a problem if I short-armed it and didn't have velocity, but that isn't the case. I think it's good because it's so quick. Hopefully everybody else agrees." Brown completed 61.7 percent of his passes in 2008 and 63.7 percent in 2009 playing in the Sun Belt Conference. - Jeff Schudel, The News-Herald

                                        http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players...w;pageContainer

                                        Interesting.....

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                                        @dave said:

                                        http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players...w;pageContainer

                                        Interesting.....

                                        Not a big fan - Brown struggles with his sideline accuracy and lets his footwork go haywire when facing pressure. At the Texas vs. the Nation practices, he reportedly was hesitant to throw into tight windows, which raises red flags about his confidence & arm strength.

                                        Levi's got decent tools, especially for a guy who's more of a late round prospect. But I'm not particularly optimistic about him ever becoming an NFL starter.

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                                          Haden will be re-running that 40 at his pro day, ... he looks outstanding on the various agility drills.

                                          It's hard to believe he runs the 40 that "slow".

                                          Does it change his status if he runs the 4.57/4.6 at his pro day ?

                                          I honestly don't know. But one guy covering the combine says Earl Thomas is the best safety in the draft.

                                          We could trade down, get another 2nd round pick, and still get Earl Thomas.

                                          Oh, THIS draft is going to get crazy.

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                                          hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          Haden will be re-running that 40 at his pro day, ... he looks outstanding on the various agility drills.

                                          It's hard to believe he runs the 40 that "slow".

                                          Does it change his status if he runs the 4.57/4.6 at his pro day ?

                                          I honestly don't know. But one guy covering the combine says Earl Thomas is the best safety in the draft.

                                          We could trade down, get another 2nd round pick, and still get Earl Thomas.

                                          Oh, THIS draft is going to get crazy.

                                          I'm concerned. Yeah, Ray Lewis ran a slow 40 too, but 4.56 is reeeeeaaalllly slow for an elite corner. If he had run a 4.4 or a 4.3 he'd be our guy. The Browns will have to watch a ton of game film before they come to a decision on Hayden.

                                          OTOH instincts can make up for lack of straight line speed, or the other way around. Got a feeling Taylor Mays' clocked 4.24 track speed makes up for lack of instincts.

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